Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Jrb1979]

It does give an advantage for sure but will it move the needle on people deciding to stay on property? For the deluxe resorts the evening EMHs is a much better perk than booking rides a few days earlier. Maybe it helps get some people off of Int’l Drive to fill the all stars but I can’t see someone who could be paying $100 a night for a room being willing to shell out $700 for the Poly just to book their rides 4 days earlier.

While true IMO they are full on panic mode. The discounts and free dining hasn't moved the needle much so this is the next lever.

 

[GoofGoof]

I never believe any company that claims they do anything based on customer feedback.
One example; Splash Mountain.

Feedback or not it’s all about making more money. Genie+ was already a paid service so any change would likely only be made if they expect to sell more units of the new system than they were selling of genie+ and if demand increases than by definition it’s more popular. Like I said not everyone will be happy but Disney is banking on more people wanting to buy this than those who bought genie+ and/or they will be willing to pay more for it.

 

[GoofGoof]

While true IMO they are full on panic mode. The discounts and free dining hasn't moved the needle much so this is the next lever.

I think the discounts and lower bookings has a lot more to do with something EPIC coming next Summer. People are waiting for the big new toy.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It does give an advantage for sure but will it move the needle on people deciding to stay on property? For the deluxe resorts the evening EMHs is a much better perk than booking rides a few days earlier. Maybe it helps get some people off of Int’l Drive to fill the all stars but I can’t see someone who could be paying $100 a night for a room being willing to shell out $700 for the Poly just to book their rides 4 days earlier.

Offering free LL multi pass would be a much better value to encourage room bookings, but eat into ride revenue.

Unless they try a middle ground like "first 3 selections free!" and chose which inventory you can select from

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

So, the question is, which of the following is true (if any):
1) It was always going to be US & Canada only, but poor communication/writing from Disney made it seem as though it would be US only.
2) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, and this is the start of the international roll out.
3) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, but feel that "US & Canada is good enough..."

I’m not even joking when I say I would not be surprised if they kinda just forgot about us and that we’ve always been closer to Americans than International in their systems.

I don’t think it was poor communication, since it was made clear it was necessary to be on US soil. I will believe nobody thought to check if it functioned in Canada too unless someone in the know refutes that

 

[GoofGoof]

I heard they threatened to cut off their maple syrup exports so the White House made a couple calls and the rest was history.

Maybe Bombardier threw in a few new monorails too.

 

[IanDLBZF]

Maybe Bombardier threw in a few new monorails too.

I think you mean Alstom.

 

[Kenneth Davies]

I'm beyond pleased to see Canada included, That saves a road trip across the boarder before my next vacation in September. Let's hope they figure out the same for our friends in the UK as well before this all goes live.

 

[freediverdude]

Myself, I looked at buying another pass today, after not going the past few years. And realized, nope, Disney has not earned my business back, and actually is worse. Put the kibosh on that idea quick.

 

[GigglesMcSnort]

Myself, I looked at buying another pass today, after not going the past few years. And realized, nope, Disney has not earned my business back, and actually is worse. Put the kibosh on that idea quick.

They do appear to be going out of their way to make the experience less pleasant (and more expensive).

 

[GhostHost1000]

They do appear to be going out of their way to make the experience less pleasant (and more expensive).

Their goal is to make more money. They don’t care as much about the guest experience. The last several years are proof

 

[bwr827]

So, the question is, which of the following is true (if any):
1) It was always going to be US & Canada only, but poor communication/writing from Disney made it seem as though it would be US only.
2) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, and this is the start of the international roll out.
3) They have managed to create a fix in the last 77 hours since the first announcement, but feel that "US & Canada is good enough..."

My money is on #1.

 

[bwr827]

I’m not even joking when I say I would not be surprised if they kinda just forgot about us and that we’ve always been closer to Americans than International in their systems.

I don’t think it was poor communication, since it was made clear it was necessary to be on US soil. I will believe nobody thought to check if it functioned in Canada too unless someone in the know refutes that

Forgetting about us is absolutely poor communication. One of the first rules of communication is consider your audiences.

 

[Tha Realest]

Disney World Lightning Lane Passes Will Be Available for Purchase By Guests In Canada​

Disney World Lightning Lane Passes Will Be Available for Purchase By Guests In Canada

Disney World Lightning Lane Passes Will Be Available for Purchase By Guests In Canada

www.wdwmagic.com

But only after they submit an improved pavilion film.

 

[Indy_UK]

So no reason why it can happen for those in Canada but not the UK?

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

So no reason why it can happen for those in Canada but not the UK?

Pure guess, but I’d think it has something to do with the way Canadians already had I believe full app functionality at home. If not, close to it. I really think it was an oversight that they made the distinction between Canada and the US in the first place. Again just a guess, but I’m thinking it was already set up to work fine -or close to it- in Canada to begin with/there aren’t any legal barriers.

It still sucks for everybody else international though, I can’t imagine they don’t come up with a solution quickly it’s really frustrating.

 

[Splash4eva]

What i would like to know is this… insiders and everyone for that matter said the pre books kinda crippled Fastpass+ etc. yet for some reason this “new” system which all it is lets face it is paid FP is going to be okay?

 

[Jrb1979]

What i would like to know is this… insiders and everyone for that matter said the pre books kinda crippled Fastpass+ etc. yet for some reason this “new” system which all it is lets face it is paid FP is going to be okay?

It will most likely end up having the same result but til it goes into effect it's hard to say.

 

[GoofGoof]

What i would like to know is this… insiders and everyone for that matter said the pre books kinda crippled Fastpass+ etc. yet for some reason this “new” system which all it is lets face it is paid FP is going to be okay?

One answer I have seen is the update to the disability system. Supposedly a large percentage of the old FP return lanes and more recently the lightning lanes was being used by people using whatever disability system was in place at the time resulting in not enough capacity. Supposedly the new system will cut down on abuse and reduce the percent of capacity used freeing up more capacity for ride reservations. No clue if this will be the case.

Since FP+ days Disney has added some additional rides but most of those additions are offset by taking 5 rides out of the multiple lightning lane system and moving them to individual so not a significant increase in capacity. However, the other factor is not everyone will take part in this system. With FP+ it was free so even if nothing great was left when you went to book you still took your 3 free reservations. With this system it’s yet to be seen if people will opt out rather than pay for less desirable reservations. The point is the number of people using this system should be less than FP+ but most likely more than Genie+.

 

[GoofGoof]

It will most likely end up having the same result but til it goes into effect it's hard to say.

One feature which is good, but that I’m a little surprised they included is that you can see what’s available before purchasing. If the “good” reservations are all taken by on-site guests 7 days in advance people may see that and not buy. If they made you buy first you would be stuck with less desirable reservations. What this may avoid is the issue of rides that never needed fast pass in the first place being clogged up with FP users creating longer standby lines.