Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It achieves it more so than I expected it to, but it's still not ideal. It would be far simpler to simply have one advanced booking and no tiers. The tiers are part of the deception of value that began with Fastpass+ and has existed since. Half of the attractions in tier 2 would be better off without Lightning Lane.

Taking away the lightning lane queues would be admitting they screwed up 11 years ago.

Which is pretty much ironclad per the defunctland deconstruction of it.

There’s a 4’11” problem in the way off that

 

[ToTBellHop]

Why does it say you need to be 35” tall for Peter Pan?

 

[nickys]

Also, do you book it day by day, or do onsite guests get to book their full stay at day 7, or 7 days of their onsite stay?

Length of stay up to 14 days.

 

[JD80]

The latter. Just like FP+

The only thing I’ve seen that is definitely different in terms of the details is no re-rides.

Scott Gustin says otherwise on twitter.

 

[JD80]

I wonder if it could work like this:

At 7 days: Pre Book a T1 attractions and a T2 attraction. Leave your third free.
At park open: Book a T1 attraction if available.

 

[nickys]

I know none of you care but can I just say that this thread has been a lot more entertaining and diverting over the last 90 minutes than England's 0-0 draw in the Euros

To be fair, that’s not a high bar to reach…..

 

[nickys]

Scott Gustin says otherwise on twitter.

Even better!

So other than tiers at Mk and not at AK, so far I’ve not seen anything different from FP+ (other than $$$ obviously).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As a local this will not really impact me as I never pay for Genie+ anyway; I figure it's not really worth the money as I can go back anytime and just catch things when lines are shorter. But, having said that, this kind of will make things worse for locals as the "good" Lightning Lanes will be gone ahead of time, taken by vacationers.

I'm not surprised though; it's no mystery that Disney's favorite guest is the out of town family who comes for a week and drops tons of money, not local APs like me who go and ride one or two rides and then leave, and maybe occasionally buy a snack or especially compelling souvenir.

I guess locals will have to be content with the occasional bones thrown at us like ice cream bars (DVC) and magnets, both of which benefit locals more than out of state due to the often short notice.

…they’re problem is they aren’t pulling them in.
My hunch is dvc/ap/locals is a higher percentage of the daily gate than it has been in…well maybe forever?

Sunday was the busiest day for the TSA…ever

I bet If people posted park pictures right now…it would look more like September 1993?

I know without knowing…but I bet if we pulled up Appsy it would show it

 

[Disney Glimpses]

I wonder if it could work like this:

At 7 days: Pre Book a T1 attractions and a T2 attraction. Leave your third free.
At park open: Book a T1 attraction if available.

Worth a shot!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Scott Gustin says otherwise on twitter.

…always a straight shooter

 

[JohnD]

Just when I finally mastered G+/ILL in March and was planning on cracking my knuckles and getting down to business with the system in October. Sigh. . .

 

[nickys]

I wonder if it could work like this:

At 7 days: Pre Book a T1 attractions and a T2 attraction. Leave your third free.
At park open: Book a T1 attraction if available.

My guess, based on FP+ is that your 3rd would have to meet the tier rule within the same park but you could book a Tier 1 as your 3rd in a different park once you tap in.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Scott Gustin says otherwise on twitter.

 

[the_rich]

For anyone asking

 

[mickEblu]

So this is way better for vacationers/ tourists staying onsite obviously and worse for locals. Am I missing anything?

The Genie + system was one reason I postponed my WDW trip. Had no interest in waking up at 7am to deal with booking LLs everyday. It’s nice to know you have three top-ish priority attractions booked that you can plan around. As a vacationer purchasing some single use Lightning Lanes for the best rides to make your day easier is a no brainer when you consider how deep $$$ you already are. Gets even better as a Disneyland AP that can skip attractions or entire lands like GE.

Also as someone who just a wrote up a quick tour guide/ list of tips for his cousins day at Disneyland last week I support the name change. Having the program be called Genie + but using a separate name for the physical Line you wait in (Lightning Lane) was never a good idea. Confusing for Noobies especially when you throw in the ILL’s as another term.

 

[JohnD]

20 pages of discussion from 1152 to 1172. Anyone on this forum is basically a "Disney Pro". If we can't figure it out, they're hoping your average guest can?

 

[IanDLBZF]

Also, a tidbit I’d like to share: character meet and greets will no longer be included in lightning lanes whatsoever, effective 7/24. No LLS, no LLM.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Also, a tidbit I’d like to share: character meet and greets will no longer be included in lightning lanes whatsoever, effective 7/24. No LLS, no LLM.

For now

 

[the_rich]

20 pages of discussion from 1152 to 1172. Anyone on this forum is basically a "Disney Pro". If we can't figure it out, they're hoping your average guest can?

It just got released. It took me a minute but I think I got it down now.

 

[JD80]

Even better!

So other than tiers at Mk and not at AK, so far I’ve not seen anything different from FP+ (other than $$$ obviously).

Very different from FP+ assuming it works the way I think it does.

Two major pros in FP+'s column is cost (free) and the ability to re-ride.

However, functionally this new MP (are we calling it Multipass or LL?) is superior, at least in MK. You now have three separate tracks to work your rebooking and modifying on. With FP+, you could only refresh after your third, and then your fourth etc. But with this system, assuming attraction availability you can work on three points of rebook/refresh.

Each of the three pre-booked LL's, once used for the first time, act as the third FP.

Pre-Book 1 2 3
Use 1 book 4 - Use 4 book 7
Use 2 book 5 - Use 5 book 8
Use 3 book 6 - Use 6 book 9

Assuming there are enough attractions (lol there isn't)