Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[el_super]

It is deceptively confusing and making something that is already complicated and a driver of guest dissatisfaction and making it worse.

People wanted this. They begged Disney for it.

So it's nothing more than Fastpass+, which you now have the privilege of paying for.

My biggest issue with FP+ was having to wake up early, have everything planned out and hope you got the selections you wanted.. months before your trip.

If charging for LL service increases the ease in getting the best selections ahead of time, this makes it worth it.

 

[GhostHost1000]

It said as soon as u use the first one u can book another.

ok that's not bad

 

[monothingie]

They can’t just GIVE rides on a 12 year old mini coaster away

Getting a LL for Star Tours is like winning a participation trophy for breathing.

 

[Starship824]

Basically the same thing as fastpass + The only differences are:
1. You have to pay for this
2. Its 7 days for resort guests instead 60 and 3 instead of 30
3. And the most popular rides are behind an extra pay wall.
Disney really is adding so much value! (Not). I personally liked fastpass + because I could do it in advanced. This is better than now but that's not a very high bar. I'm not sure if I like 7 days in advanced more or less than 60 but I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that.

 

[Ayla]

Well, still no rerides (as far as I can tell) so you are actually just paying for a lesser version of what use to be free.

Ugh. That is one thing I hate about Genie+, the no re-rides. It's a stupid rule and all it does it people off. Oh right, forgot we can't use p issed here. It makes people irritated.

 

[the_rich]

Can you book your first three rides at multiple parks? Example ride 1-mk, ride 2-ak, ride 3-ak?? Or do your first three rides have to be at the same park?

From reading the info they posted on the main page it's all three at the same park then you can jump around.

 

[MouseEarsMom33]

Did Magic Kingdom used to have tiers under Fastpass+? For some reason, I am only remembering Hollywood Studios and EPCOT with tiers

 

[Ayla]

wasn't it use #1, #2, and #3 and then be able to book #4... then after using #4 book #5, etc.?

Is it changing where we can always have 3?

That is how free FP+ used to be, yes.

 

[Brer Oswald]

This is awful. Now I’m dreading my trip instead of looking forward to it.

 

[the_rich]

Did Magic Kingdom used to have tiers under Fastpass+? For some reason, I am only remembering Hollywood Studios and EPCOT with tiers

Yea I'm pretty sure it did.

 

[GhostHost1000]

This is awful. Now I’m dreading my trip instead of looking forward to it.

there is no good "fastpass" system at disney because they don't have enough capacity and then like to overcomplicate and charge for it all

 

[DCLcruiser]

I'm still shocked at the absolute stupidity calling these Single Pass and Multi Pass after ridiculously naming them Lighting Lane and Individual Lighting Lanes before. This was their chance to fix something rather than make it worse.

I guess that's all those creative minds at work

We could still use Genie for the app Wizard.

You can select 3 Wishes….Oh, hey Genie here, you can make another Wish.

You can buy Magic Carpet rides.

I dunno. But, Aladdin could have been a great theme for all of it.

 

[the_rich]

Doesn't say anywhere about getting fp again for the same ride. @wdwmagic do you have any info on this?

 

[mmascari]

Disney really don't want spontaneity in their parks do they, it really isn't a vacation anymore is it!.... Universal just keeps getting more of my time and more & more of my money.

Anyone have the link to the thread explaining all the reasons the Universal system would not work at Disney? (I am sure there must be one.)

Just got back from a Universal trip. Specifically because our last Disney trip felt like it required to much work to vacation and we had never been to Harry Potter at all. Express Pass Unlimited was wonderful. (Universal also felt, and I assume is, significantly smaller than Disney.)

I'm sure the Disney system will change again before we plan our next trip anyway.

 

[Starship824]

This seems like a good change to me I liked being able to pre-book. I need to dig further.

Side Note: I’m going to D23 in August do I get folded into this new system? I already pre-bought Genie.

These changes don't apply to Disneyland aside from the name change. So you don't have to worry. Unless you're going to wdw in August for d23 in which case I have news for ya.

 

[HauntedPirate]

While I hate Disney turned Fast Pass into a money grab, I do like that I can now plan ahead at MK and HS with this. I think its a step in the right direction ESPECIALLY if the price doesnt change.

Prices will increase. For something that was free. But the Bob’s and Josh have conditioned you to think it’s a god thing to pay for it. Just say no.

 

[GhostHost1000]

so are they seriously going through the parks and at every attraction spend money to change signing once again to match the new names?

great use of $ geniuses

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Basically the same thing as fastpass + The only differences are:
1. You have to pay for this
2. Its 7 days for resort guests instead 60 and 3 instead of 30
3. And the most popular rides are behind an extra pay wall.
Disney really is adding so much value! (Not). I personally liked fastpass + because I could do it in advanced. This is better than now but that's not a very high bar. I'm not sure if I like 7 days in advanced more or less than 60 but I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that.

Eliminating the 7 dash is needed.

But this is gonna play just like plus…
It’s gonna be locked up before the gates open and essentially useless

3 and out like the 1986 Steelers offense.

I know…I know…queue the “I got 14 passes yesterday!” Nonsense

Save it, Hard-o

 

[Starship824]

At least the name is much better. Who thought calling it Disney Genie made sense for a skip the line system?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Basically the same thing as fastpass + The only differences are:
1. You have to pay for this
2. Its 7 days for resort guests instead 60 and 3 instead of 30
3. And the most popular rides are behind an extra pay wall.
Disney really is adding so much value! (Not). I personally liked fastpass + because I could do it in advanced. This is better than now but that's not a very high bar. I'm not sure if I like 7 days in advanced more or less than 60 but I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that.

4. The tiering at Magic Kingdom makes this basically worthless. Absolutely garbage.

Of Standby Only, Paper FastPass, FastPass+, and Genie+, this is by far the worst option.

I will be doing most of my commentary on this topic at twitter dot com because the language I'll be using would get me banned from WDWMagic.