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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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Jrb1979
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Then there is my family. We would never pay for Disney tickets just to do 3 rides a day. I don't go an amusement/theme park for a laid back vacation. I have places like Myrtle Beach and Put-in Bay for that.
lentesta
Premium Member
Heh. Even accounting for prep time, the colonoscopy inconvenience is over in 36 hours, with only a $35 co-pay.
lentesta
Premium Member
Here are the relevant screencaps from the survey I referred to.
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DisneyCane
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The paid line skip system at WDW should be done one of two ways. Either:
A) Make it very expensive, limit inventory and make it one guaranteed use per ride per day at any time (I think this is like UO express pass but I've never used it or even looked into it).
B) Make every Lightning Lane a la carte and purchased at entry to the queue with variable pricing based on current usage (payment method tied to account charged at tap in). A sign would say how long the LL wait is along with the cost for each person to enter the LL. The price would go from reasonable if almost nobody was using it to insane if there was a lot of usage and if enough people were willing to pay the insane price and the LL filled to capacity people would not be able to enter until some of the queue cleared out.
Personally, I think choice B would be the best system for Disney to maximize revenue while guests would have a simple to understand and use line skip system. You would walk up to RotR, see a standby wait of 120 minutes and a LL with a wait of 20 minutes for a cost of $25 per person. You decide if the $25 is worth saving 100 minutes. If it is worth it to you then you tap in and your credit card gets charged.
A) Make it very expensive, limit inventory and make it one guaranteed use per ride per day at any time (I think this is like UO express pass but I've never used it or even looked into it).
B) Make every Lightning Lane a la carte and purchased at entry to the queue with variable pricing based on current usage (payment method tied to account charged at tap in). A sign would say how long the LL wait is along with the cost for each person to enter the LL. The price would go from reasonable if almost nobody was using it to insane if there was a lot of usage and if enough people were willing to pay the insane price and the LL filled to capacity people would not be able to enter until some of the queue cleared out.
Personally, I think choice B would be the best system for Disney to maximize revenue while guests would have a simple to understand and use line skip system. You would walk up to RotR, see a standby wait of 120 minutes and a LL with a wait of 20 minutes for a cost of $25 per person. You decide if the $25 is worth saving 100 minutes. If it is worth it to you then you tap in and your credit card gets charged.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
If Disney ever chose a very that was similar to Express i.e. go whenever, I'd suspect they would limit it to included with stay for club level resort guests only.
Chi84
Premium Member
Thank you. And those are pretty much exactly the responses I would have given.
crazy4disney
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Im going next month and have a $50 copay. Must be partners with Disney
George
Liker of Things
Huge variation between hospitals with regards to themeing quality as well, which could muck with results. Maybe the BMV wait system where you take the little paper number and can’t hear your number when it’s called is better. It oftentimes ends with you paying for something that it seems like you shouldn’t have to pay for as well.
But they take those answers and twist them from what the survey taker meant to what Disney wants them to say.
Disney question: Would you like the ability to make a fast pass on the day of you visit?
Guest thought: Yes. Planning 60 days in advance is a hassle. Id like to pick my three fast passes on the day I am in the park.
Disney thought: They want to pay extra for something we used to give them for free. And we dont have to make it as good as the previous version.
Sorry, I just don't believe anyone would ever be happy paying $500+ for a family of four and only getting on 3 rides.
Chi84
Premium Member
I wouldn't call what we do laid back. It's just a different way of doing things based on how much there is to do at WDW and how we like to split our days. For example, if it's really hot we often go to a water park in the morning/early afternoon, then hit a theme park late afternoon/evening. There are also boat rides, shopping at DS, checking out the entertainment at the resorts, going to the shows and doing some of the tours in the parks (and the trails at AK) etc. With FP+ it was easy to get 3 rides and schedule them around our other activities. It's not that we're laid back - just not particularly ride-centered.
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Jeff4272
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So couldn’t FP+. And everyone knows how to use it. Just charge for it and done
Jeff4272
Well-Known Member
It’s terrible. You are on your phone WAY more than FP+
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
It depends on how you used FP+. I know many just booked their 3 for each day. If that was how you used it then yes Genie+ you would be on you phone more.
You shouldn't be on your phone much since you can book another LL for 2 hours or after you use your first one.
crazy4disney
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
The difference to me was this with FP+ when you used it after your initial 3 say it was a very quick refresh and your options were right there & you can simply choose. Genie is awful where options are hours away if that so its a constant refresh to find someone anything that suits you.
pdude81
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This more or less exists. It's Club 33. If you can get through the wait list and pass the screenings, It's a minimum of 33k up front and 15k annual dues. Reportedly the buy in is much more expensive now but I am not privy to such information. I don't think they would or should cannibalize their special programs like 33 and Plaid tours for something like express pass when the consumers have proved that we'll pay for whatever product they put out. I understand you only said you'd love to see that as opposed to suggesting they should, but IMO it'll never happen.
My expectation here is that they'll limit the program, thereby increasing it's demand, while letting it pay for increased capex, which increases the number of passes they sell as capacity improves. This all goes out the window if there is a real recession
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
The only thing that's been announced is starting June 8th you no longer can purchase Genie+ ahead of time. Will only be available day of and sales will be capped. That should go a long way to fixing the problem.
Limiting G+ sales will fix the problem of not building enough capacity for the past 15+ years? Will that be a D23 announcement or a Friday afternoon news drop?