ConfettiCupcake
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Interesting it says or Canada.
I'm hopeful this will work from Canada.
You and me both! I’m very glad we don’t have a trip in the works in the immediate future.
Interesting it says or Canada.
I'm hopeful this will work from Canada.
Disney has 4-5 months to get their together on this before we make a decision.You and me both! I’m very glad we don’t have a trip in the works in the immediate future.
Your threat has Josh quaking in his jeans.Disney has 4-5 months to get their together on this before we make a decision.
The tiering limits inventory...how so (just curious why you think that)
welcome to the forum btw
tyhow so (just curious why you think that)
welcome to the forum btw
Make your decision easy and plan a EPIC Universe vacation in 2025Disney has 4-5 months to get their together on this before we make a decision.
No…they can’t do itThe only way this system doesn't fall apart is if they limit sales enough so that the power users don't ruin it for most guests like they did for FP+. Anyone think they will actually do that?
Had troubles getting a second or third T1 on G+? Just wait till you get to compete for the same number of overall slots but now people can hold three T1s at a time instead of one. They just tripled the amount of capacity eaten up by VQ at any one time and somehow that isn't going to be a problem?
Disney could of course increase the LL capacity to help counteract this but that is just going to make standby even worse.
No…they cannotStacking rides at 9 am, 9:45 am, and 10:30 am when you can add your fourth at 9 am, however, could allow for many LLs. The proof will be in the pudding, though. Are they really able to dedicate much more capacity with DAS diminished?
This too.As a tangential issue, some of us (okay, me), when we complain that Disney doesn't have sufficient "capacity" to accommodate all the DAS/ILL/G+ crowd without making things miserable for the rest of us, aren't saying WDW necessarily needs to build more rides. It's not a question of Disney's maximum capacity, but of Disney's choice not to ever use that capacity other than once or twice a year. The rest of the time, even during major vacation or holiday weeks, Disney deliberately understaffs attractions and runs them with a fraction of the ride vehicles they could be using, solely in order to increase profits.
I may be able to stomach waiting over an hour for Big Thunder Mountain or Pirates of the Caribbean, on a day where the park is open 2-4 hours less than it used to be, in a line that barely moves at a crawl, while hundreds upon hundreds of impaired/ILL/G+ people are surging gleefully ahead of me in a neverending stream. What really pi$$es me off, though, is getting to the head of that line and seeing that Disney is only using one of the two loading areas, and thus more than doubling the wait for every single standby guest, on purpose! Unfortunately, that's become the standard operating procedure for every attraction where capacity can be manipulated.
WDW has sufficient capacity and operational ability to shorten wait times, just by running existing attractions with appropriate staffing and vehicle usage. It simply refuses to, and will presumably continue to do so with every new attraction it builds. What really needs a capacity increase is the small, shriveled hearts of WDW's corporate bean counters, because their desperate attempt to monetize the queueing experience and transform it into a caste system has diminished the in-park experience for everybody. Nothing about the newest rebranding and tweaking of paid FP+/G+ is going to address the root cause of that, any more than renaming a disease will relieve sufferers of their symptoms.
FP+ access that was part of every guest's ticket came with its own problems, but at least it felt fair. A paid skip-the-line system that is only accessible to the wealthy, disabled (x4), or dishonest, never will.
I think they’ll shut this loophole really quickly if it really does exist. The old fastpass system required you to use your tier 2’s before getting an additional tier 1 for a reason.Every iteration of FP/LL that has existed since inception has allowed motivated guests to learn tips and strategies to get more out of the system. I think that will always exist for those who are willing to learn and put in the effort. The switching of the tier 2s at 7 am will be just like that in my opinion, a smaller subset of users who are both in the know and motivated enough to maximize their attractions. The wider group of users will still IMO again not do this. It’s similar to how with Genie+ Disney sets expectations with an average 2-3 rides per guest, however most people on this board understand how to get far more than that, yet the average experience is likely closer to what Disney warns of.
15 minute overlap.
Tower of Terror is going to be hard to get.It’s those desirable tier 2’s
dont you love how disney makes things so magical!!! Hey i guess they want to incorporate their gambling venture into your trip now as wellThat was the FP+ dilemma as well. Book too early, and you waste selections on walk-ons; book too late, and you lose out on availability.
If you have an Android phone, have you turned off the location permissions for the app and also turned off the location on your phone? This allows me to at least select the park I need, although I can't proceed further without a valid ticket.On the international front - the VPN bypasses I've used in the past no longer seem to work and it just states "you must be in the US or Canada" if trying to purchase Genie+. So having spent north of £2000 on a Disney hotel are they seriously saying that if I purchase Genie+ AT FULL PRICE of course I will be behind even the non Disney resort guests in the pecking order when i go in a couple of months? Because (in this context) that is pretty scandalous. I've never known a company who seem to work harder to frustrate their guests.
I’m pretty sure this was debunked by @lentesta. With the small exception of not every ride immediately opening at full capacity first thing in the morning.Disney deliberately understaffs attractions and runs them with a fraction of the ride vehicles they could be using, solely in order to increase profits.
I will say this. I dk about staffing etc but when i was there a couple weeks ago it was noticeable rides not going out completely full intentional or not but it seemed somewhat consistentI’m pretty sure this was debunked by @lentesta. With the small exception of not every ride immediately opening at full capacity first thing in the morning.
What? There aren’t even 4-6 Tier 1 rides in any given park. You’re telling us your touring strategy is to park hop to 3 parks in an afternoon and only ride the headliners?With Genie+, I could "stack" 4-6 "Tier 1" rides and go in afternoon
This old chestnut is from 2018. Has he indicated something different since then? Where lowered capacity is readily observable (e.g., attractions with less than the full complement of loading bays being used) I've continued to see attractions running at lowered capacity the overwhelming majority of the time in the intervening years, whether we were visiting over President's Day weekend (which was horribly crowded), or late August (when crowds are lower than usual).I’m pretty sure this was debunked by @lentesta. With the small exception of not every ride immediately opening at full capacity first thing in the morning.
That could very well happen. I'm waiting to see how they handle the crowds.Make your decision easy and plan a EPIC Universe vacation in 2025
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