Lending Disney a hand

brich

New Member
peter11435 said:
As Mousermerf tickets need the system because prices decrease the more you buy why would you buy a 5 day MYW ticket when you and a friend could split the cost of a 10 day ticket when the price difference between a 5 day and a 10 day is less than $20. Also the system is needed on single day tickets for issues with reentry and park hopping.

Not to mention the fact that Disney is essentially enforcing the law as Florida State Statute 817.361 states that, all multi-day and multi-event ticket media must be used by the same person on any and all days.
817.361 Resale of multiday or multievent ticket.--Whoever offers for sale, sells, or transfers in connection with a commercial transaction, with or without consideration, any nontransferable ticket or other nontransferable medium designed for admission to more than one amusement location or other facility offering entertainment to the general public, or for admission for more than 1 day thereto, after said ticket or other medium has been used at least once for admission, is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. A nontransferable ticket or other nontransferable medium is one on which is clearly printed the phrase: "Nontransferable; must be used by the same person on all days" or words of similar import. Upon conviction for a second or subsequent violation of this subsection, such person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

So if Disney decides they don't want to enforce such statutes, wouldn't they simply need to eliminate the "Nontransferable" statement from the tickets? If Disney does not state that the tickets are Nontransferable, then why couldn't they be shared? This statute also appears to address resale and commercial transfers as opposed to myself and Bob sharing my ticket..:veryconfu
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
brich said:
817.361 Resale of multiday or multievent ticket.--Whoever offers for sale, sells, or transfers in connection with a commercial transaction, with or without consideration, any nontransferable ticket or other nontransferable medium designed for admission to more than one amusement location or other facility offering entertainment to the general public, or for admission for more than 1 day thereto, after said ticket or other medium has been used at least once for admission, is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. A nontransferable ticket or other nontransferable medium is one on which is clearly printed the phrase: "Nontransferable; must be used by the same person on all days" or words of similar import. Upon conviction for a second or subsequent violation of this subsection, such person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

So if Disney decides they don't want to enforce such statutes, wouldn't they simply need to eliminate the "Nontransferable" statement from the tickets? If Disney does not state that the tickets are Nontransferable, then why couldn't they be shared? This statute also appears to address resale and commercial transfers as opposed to myself and Bob sharing my ticket..:veryconfu
But Disney does want to enforce this. If you read my above most you will see how much money Disney would be out if they did not enforce that law.
 

brich

New Member
peter11435 said:
But Disney does want to enforce this. If you read my above most you will see how much money Disney would be out if they did not enforce that law.
I know Disney wants to enforce this. Only trying to state that the state of FL's statute is a reflection of what Disney wants and not a limitation on what Disney can do. I saw the math and it all looks accurate but I guess my point is more remedial. Your view is based on Bob potentially buying his own ticket and the loss of Bob's sale due to using my ticket. My view is simply one paid admission for one human body. I truly don't see a clear cut reason because there are a multitude of possibilities. Therefore I still can't agree that a sizeable investment in this technology is actually worth it. Call me stuborn, I've been called worse... :D
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
brich said:
I know Disney wants to enforce this. Only trying to state that the state of FL's statute is a reflection of what Disney wants and not a limitation on what Disney can do. I saw the math and it all looks accurate but I guess my point is more remedial. Your view is based on Bob potentially buying his own ticket and the loss of Bob's sale due to using my ticket. My view is simply one paid admission for one human body. I truly don't see a clear cut reason because there are a multitude of possibilities. Therefore I still can't agree that a sizeable investment in this technology is actually worth it. Call me stuborn, I've been called worse... :D
Well, there really has been no investment in technology for this, as all of the machines have been there for at least 6 years for Annual Passes. And your right about the one paid admission for one human head thing except for the fact that admission cost changes the more days you buy. And while this has always been the case the savings for buying multiple days was drastically increased with the MYW passes which in turn is why they need to use the system for everyone.
 

daringstoic

Active Member
BrerPete said:
Awesome. Big Brother is here. They have something like that at the lockers over at Universal. They should skip the finger scan and go straight for the retinal scans.

Actually, when I was at Universal last summer, I loved the fingerprint lockers. They were great for stowing stuff while we rode the big rides, and not having to worry about losing the key was great too. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that installed at the Disney water parks.
 

I.M.Fearless

New Member
I agree with the people who say that the tickets should have signatures. But I also think a better idea would be to just scan fingerprints and not even need the tickets. Think about it - it would recognize you, and only you, and you wouldn't even need to carry a ticket.
 

gniko21

Member
gniko21

Just as there are disadvantages to Big Brother looking over our shoulders, there are advantages. If this helps Disney cut down on losses due to theft, I'm all for it. Because using someone else's ticket is theft, no matter how you look at it. And, as with any other form of theft, the losses get passed on to the consumer in the form of higher merchandise prices, ticket prices, etc...
 

Connor002

Active Member
as long as i still get in the park i don't care what kind of test they use

weather it be finger geometry, blood samples, or genetic testing:lol:

i wouldn't care if the punched me to see if i would yell out in a terrorist language


just get me in the park, i don't give a *bleep* about how

:)
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
I.M.Fearless said:
I agree with the people who say that the tickets should have signatures. But I also think a better idea would be to just scan fingerprints and not even need the tickets. Think about it - it would recognize you, and only you, and you wouldn't even need to carry a ticket.
The problem is that would really through some of the less educated people into a panic.
 

Disneyland1970

New Member
YA know what is a great way around all of this hoopla? Bring back the Old Ticket Books. Just give you a break on the daily admission the longer you stay. $20 the first day to get in and maybe 45 for 3 day Admission and so on. This would allow you entrance into the park and parades and fireworks. Then use A thru E tickets for the rides. They could also do away FP so the crowding in the parks could die down, plus it would alow people to slow down and enjoy the parks the way they were before the all day ticket!

Go ahead let the FLAMING start! :drevil:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
AliciaLuvzDizne said:
not officially but when I was down a few weeks ago there were many people who couldnt get it to work and the CM let them through anyway.

The same thing has happened to me with the paper tickets, the turnstile would not accept it (it was valid) and the cast member would just let me through the gate. (which reminds me - I wonder if that day is still left on that ticket?) :lol:

But back to the orignal post, I for one really have no problem with the hand scan idea. If it kept your identity forever and gathered info on you and how often you were there - then maybe!
 

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