Just got back from Disneyland

TP2000

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I'm sorry that you found their manner off-putting, but DLR is a locals park. I was there 2 weeks ago, and I had a completely different experience. No one called me dude, but I am in my 50's which could have made the difference.

I'm not a young person, and no one at Disneyland has ever called me "dude" or "bro". I am always referred to as "sir" by Disneyland CM's in direct conversation.

That said, when I'm at Target or casual restaurants, I've noticed the last few years that young employees call me "boss". Like "two dollars is your change, boss". I had to ask my young nephew if that was flattering or not, and he says it's just sort of slang for any man older than you are, but I think it's way too casual for a business transaction.

I agree that the WDW CM's tend to be very corporate and canned, and the whole "Have a MAGICAL Day!" shtick they do is grating and fake and so painfully corporate. Disneyland CM's are more casual and laid-back, but I've never had any of them be disrespectful. They are far less corporate than their WDW cousins, that's for sure. Some folks love the canned fake corporate taglines and patter, but I think most Californians see that for exactly what it is and would prefer the more genuine Disneyland patter, even if it's more casual sounding.
 

Schneewittchen

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I actually speak to and chat with random strangers at the parks all the time, probably each visit, and same vice versa. I've kept in contact with some of them as well. We were kids, but back in the 90's, we struck up a conversation with a family while in line for Thunder Mountain. The child was excited because she was finally tall enough to ride. Her name was Ryan, and we took pictures with her (still have them, too). The years of the Poloroid. Lol.

More recently on the day of the 60th, I was with friends and we struck up a conversation with someone who had flown all the way from Pennsylvania by himself for the celebration. He had just graduated college. He spent the rest of the day with us.

I have countless other stories. Random conversations do happen. :)

I just got back from DLR and I could go on and on about my feelings about the differences between DLR and WDW (good and bad), but that's besides the point....

Anyway, random strangers. On Sunday while standing in line for Monsters, Inc. for about a half hour we met another family from our city and just chatted the whole time. Their DD and our DD are the same age, quick line buddies... Makes the time go by faster.
 
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From my experience the overall caliber of DL's cast members has deteriorated over the years, from their appearance to their general politeness and professionalism. Given the economics of hiring an army of well-paid well-groomed courteous theme park workers in Orange County I tend to give Disney a pass.
 
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I go to the 'Land every year since I live closer to Cali, and the CM service is always wonderful and friendly. As for the ride stopping on Indy, sadly this is a regular occasion but to my knowledge this is due to wheelchair accessibility people trying to get to get on, and they usually need to have a little more time to assist them, but there's not much they can do. The handicapped and elderly want to have fun too! :p You might have come on a crummy day though, as for your overall horrible experience. As I said, the CM are usually very kind and helpful (or at least pretend to be kind lol) but I can't really think as to why the CMwere specifically nasty that day? They're usually so well. I hope that didn't ruin your experiences. DL truly is magical and very nice, and Indy might quite possibly be the best Disney ride that I've been on other than RSR, (which is in Cali Adventure) of course, the few stops don't bother me. They don't happen that often for me when I ride it though. Again, perhaps it was just the timing? Hope your next experience is wonderful if you choose to go again despite your first impressions.
 
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I go to the 'Land every year since I live closer to Cali, and the CM service is always wonderful and friendly. As for the ride stopping on Indy, sadly this is a regular occasion but to my knowledge this is due to wheelchair accessibility people trying to get to get on, and they usually need to have a little more time to assist them, but there's not much they can do. The handicapped and elderly want to have fun too! :p You might have come on a crummy day though, as for your overall horrible experience. As I said, the CM are usually very kind and helpful (or at least pretend to be kind lol) but I can't really think as to why the CMwere specifically nasty that day? They're usually so well. I hope that didn't ruin your experiences. DL truly is magical and very nice, and Indy might quite possibly be the best Disney ride that I've been on other than RSR, (which is in Cali Adventure) of course, the few stops don't bother me. They don't happen that often for me when I ride it though. Again, perhaps it was just the timing? Hope your next experience is wonderful if you choose to go again despite your first impressions.
Oh wait, my apologies. I misunderstood what E stop means. Not sure what that is so I shouldn't have tried to answer that. If you have fto completely get off the ride, that is extremely rare. I've been MANY times I usually go at least once a year, if not 3 times, and I've NEVER been evacuated. As I said, maybe it was just a crappy day lol. Disney has those days, too. The park isn't perfect, neither of them are. Although, a momentary stop, that may last a minute may happen to allow handicapped and people who need wheelchairs to get on the ride.
 

Ismael Flores

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If you wanted it to be like Walt Disney World, you should've just went to Walt Disney World.

And I love McDonald's. Many of their employees are wonderful people.

I don't eat at Mcdonalds here in the states because I don't care for their menu but on one of my travels a couple friends of mine wanted to try the Mcdonalds in India. If you ever get a chance to try one the people were very friendly but their menu is actually something that i look forward to when ever i'm in India. They have a delicious Maharaja Chicken Spicy Burger. Actually it seems that Mcdonalds has way better menus around the globe and here in the states we have the crappy menu except for the fries LOL


Ok back to the scheduled topic
 

Curious Constance

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Ok, so I've been to WDW more times then I can count over the past 30 years, but never went to DL until today.

Let me say that DL did not seem to have the same magic WDW has. For example it started with the parking lot cashier, he greeted me with saying "Hey what's up man." And thanked me by saying "Have a good one dude" This does not seem magical or Disney like in anyway. I felt like I was at a McDonalds not Disney... very unprofessional. Then as I was walking to the Disney transport bus the guy directing traffic heard a car making a loud noise and he says to me "Damn that car needs some major work bro" I was thinking how un-Disney like these cast members are. I brushed it off and thought well maybe things will get more Disney like when I get into the park... well I was wrong.

First of all at 90% of the rides the ride operators or other cast members near the rides were talking to each other and not paying attention to the guests. They were have side conversations about everything from their plans for the weekend to even making fun of guests to each other. I hardly saw one cast member who seemed to be Disney like at all. I counted 3 cast members throughout the entire day that acted like I would expect a Disney cast member to act like. There were even a couple times when I needed to ask a cast member a question and they were bust talking to co-workers about non-work related things and didn't even notice I was standing there and when I did talk to them they seemed like I was interrupting them.

I simply couldn't believe how un-Disney like nearly every cast member was.

As far as the park, it was kept up very well. The bathrooms were all dirty, but over all everything else was nice and clean. The only other thing that surprised me (I'm not complaining, I know things happen) is that on Indiana Jones, HM, Alice, Cars, Star Tours and a couple other rides they had E stops while I was riding. Not sure if I just was very unlikely with my timing or if this is normal to have that many breakdowns in one day. Of course at WDW I've only had an Estop on a very rare occasion.

So those are my thoughts....

Are you REALLY Walt Disney????
 

brb1006

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As someone who regularly visits both DLR and WDW (former local DLR APer, current long-distance WDW APer) I think the CMs are one of the biggest differences between the two. DLR CMs are capable and adequate, but rarely put in the extra effort the way that so many WDW CMs do.

In large part, I think the CMs play to the audience at each park. WDW guests tend to be one-in-a-lifetime or very-infrequent visitors, so those short conversations like "What's you're favorite ride?" tend to go over very well. WDW guests also tend to be around for longer and (partly due to the attraction rosters in each park) have more time to spend chatting and having unexpected encounters

On the flip side, DLR guests tend to visit every few years, if not more regularly. Many APers wait in line for an attraction more often than they wait in line to checkout at the grocery store; conversations about what they plan to do that day are often fruitless. Visits tend to be short (whether a few hours for a local APer or a couple days for out-of-towners) and focus on cramming as many rides in as possible

Even interactions between guests varies widely from one resort to the next. When was the last time anybody here struck up a conversation with the group next to them in line at DLR, and became temporary friends for the next 20 minutes? That sort of thing happens all the time in WDW, where everybody is out having fun on vacation simultaneously and sharing tips for must-do's, but rarely in DLR, which some people use as a babysitter for their bored kids.

Some of this is because of CM demographics. WDW pulls employees from all over (across the country for the College Program, around the world for the International Program, and assorted retirees/snowbirds) who realize it's a major vacation destination, so they better understand that everybody is looking for something a little different. DLR mostly has soCal kids who grew up with the parks in their backyard, who take it for granted at times (like a lot of guests)

Yes, WDW can have a lot of the phony "magic", but I've found it's also very easy to have meaningful conversations with CMs. It seems like we find ourselves having unexpected interactions multiple times a day in WDW; I've only had it happen once or twice at DLR. DLR CMs bypass the cheesy stuff, but rarely have more than a superficial interest in your experience, which I think comes down a lot more to the California culture

Did you visit anywhere other than DLR on your visit? Did you notice a similarly laid-back/disinterested attitude in workers there? Southern California is home to the most consistently-slow "fast food" I've ever experienced; service in other places can be equally abysmal...I mean, laid back, dude! But it's just part of the culture. In that framework, the DLR CMs seem pretty good, but I agree that my memorable experiences at DLR rarely come from individual CMs
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drizgirl

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As someone who regularly visits both DLR and WDW (former local DLR APer, current long-distance WDW APer) I think the CMs are one of the biggest differences between the two. DLR CMs are capable and adequate, but rarely put in the extra effort the way that so many WDW CMs do.

In large part, I think the CMs play to the audience at each park. WDW guests tend to be one-in-a-lifetime or very-infrequent visitors, so those short conversations like "What's you're favorite ride?" tend to go over very well. WDW guests also tend to be around for longer and (partly due to the attraction rosters in each park) have more time to spend chatting and having unexpected encounters

On the flip side, DLR guests tend to visit every few years, if not more regularly. Many APers wait in line for an attraction more often than they wait in line to checkout at the grocery store; conversations about what they plan to do that day are often fruitless. Visits tend to be short (whether a few hours for a local APer or a couple days for out-of-towners) and focus on cramming as many rides in as possible

Even interactions between guests varies widely from one resort to the next. When was the last time anybody here struck up a conversation with the group next to them in line at DLR, and became temporary friends for the next 20 minutes? That sort of thing happens all the time in WDW, where everybody is out having fun on vacation simultaneously and sharing tips for must-do's, but rarely in DLR, which some people use as a babysitter for their bored kids.

Some of this is because of CM demographics. WDW pulls employees from all over (across the country for the College Program, around the world for the International Program, and assorted retirees/snowbirds) who realize it's a major vacation destination, so they better understand that everybody is looking for something a little different. DLR mostly has soCal kids who grew up with the parks in their backyard, who take it for granted at times (like a lot of guests)

Yes, WDW can have a lot of the phony "magic", but I've found it's also very easy to have meaningful conversations with CMs. It seems like we find ourselves having unexpected interactions multiple times a day in WDW; I've only had it happen once or twice at DLR. DLR CMs bypass the cheesy stuff, but rarely have more than a superficial interest in your experience, which I think comes down a lot more to the California culture

Did you visit anywhere other than DLR on your visit? Did you notice a similarly laid-back/disinterested attitude in workers there? Southern California is home to the most consistently-slow "fast food" I've ever experienced; service in other places can be equally abysmal...I mean, laid back, dude! But it's just part of the culture. In that framework, the DLR CMs seem pretty good, but I agree that my memorable experiences at DLR rarely come from individual CMs


I almost never wait 20 minutes in line at DLR. That's because they have legacy FP and it's much easier to avoid long lines.

We have been to both parks a good number of times and honestly haven't noticed a big difference in the friendliness of CM's. I find it's hit or miss in both places, with the majority of CMs being very helpful and friendly. What I have noticed more than anything is that the CMs at DLR tend to be older mature adults while the ones at WDW are younger because of the CP.
 

Phroobar

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What I have noticed more than anything is that the CMs at DLR tend to be older mature adults while the ones at WDW are younger because of the CP.
That is weird because I noticed the exact opposite. DLR cast members are younger because of CSUF and UCI while WDW are older because of the retired people that live there. I guess the mix is probably equal at either place.
 

SteveAZee

Premium Member
Ok, so I've been to WDW more times then I can count over the past 30 years, but never went to DL until today.

Let me say that DL did not seem to have the same magic WDW has. For example it started with the parking lot cashier, he greeted me with saying "Hey what's up man." And thanked me by saying "Have a good one dude" This does not seem magical or Disney like in anyway. I felt like I was at a McDonalds not Disney... very unprofessional. Then as I was walking to the Disney transport bus the guy directing traffic heard a car making a loud noise and he says to me "Damn that car needs some major work bro" I was thinking how un-Disney like these cast members are. I brushed it off and thought well maybe things will get more Disney like when I get into the park... well I was wrong.

First of all at 90% of the rides the ride operators or other cast members near the rides were talking to each other and not paying attention to the guests. They were have side conversations about everything from their plans for the weekend to even making fun of guests to each other. I hardly saw one cast member who seemed to be Disney like at all. I counted 3 cast members throughout the entire day that acted like I would expect a Disney cast member to act like. There were even a couple times when I needed to ask a cast member a question and they were bust talking to co-workers about non-work related things and didn't even notice I was standing there and when I did talk to them they seemed like I was interrupting them.

I simply couldn't believe how un-Disney like nearly every cast member was.

As far as the park, it was kept up very well. The bathrooms were all dirty, but over all everything else was nice and clean. The only other thing that surprised me (I'm not complaining, I know things happen) is that on Indiana Jones, HM, Alice, Cars, Star Tours and a couple other rides they had E stops while I was riding. Not sure if I just was very unlikely with my timing or if this is normal to have that many breakdowns in one day. Of course at WDW I've only had an Estop on a very rare occasion.

So those are my thoughts....

I had a somewhat similar experience. Long time WDWer, visited DLR last May (stayed on property as I would at WDW, spent three days in the parks) and found a similar issue with a few of the cast members... as you mentioned, chatting among themselves (one example was loading at Haunted Mansion... kind of killed the mood) and with the exception of of few rides that are better, I would prefer going to the Magic Kingdom over Disneyland. That said, I really enjoyed California Adventure... seemed fresher and more amenable to relaxing and having a good time. In retrospect, I thought Disneyland was more like a kids park... which is fine, but it had the same trappings that I've seen at local amusement parks, which was a little disappointing for me. Less magical than I've experienced in 20 or so visits to Florida.
 
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That said, I really enjoyed California Adventure... seemed fresher and more amenable to relaxing and having a good time. In retrospect, I thought Disneyland was more like a kids park...

I've been saying this for years, even before DCA got its big overhaul. I love DL's quaint charm, but as an adult who hasn't been to the parks with kids in decades I have to admit that I enjoy DCA a lot more than DL.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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I enjoy DCA quite a bit, but there are not enough variety of attractions for me to do without having to really stop and think about what's next and worth it before the end of the day. Just too many carny rides by percentage for example.
 

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