Jungle Cruise Lawsuit

Rasvar

Well-Known Member
Boat would have had to have jumped the rail. Likely would have been significant downtime for a repair after that. Was there such an event? I guess the court case will answer this.
 

Pioneer Hall

Well-Known Member
From what I have heard, the boats in the DL version are a lot easier to make jump the track than the WDW version. If a Skipper knows the parts where it is easily done, they really do just have to make the boat go fast enough and apparently it isn't too hard. Don't know how true that info is, but that is what I have heard from a few people familiar with the situation. So if that is the case, I can definitely see this lawsuit being somewhat realistic.
 

Master Gracey

Well-Known Member
Disneyland's Jungle boats are on a rail and can jump it if they are going too fast. They have to send in a diver to get it back on track. Walt Disney World's have pilons that go into a trough and it is nearly impossible for them to go off track unless the water level goes too high.
 

Rasvar

Well-Known Member
Disneyland's Jungle boats are on a rail and can jump it if they are going too fast. They have to send in a diver to get it back on track. Walt Disney World's have pilons that go into a trough and it is nearly impossible for them to go off track unless the water level goes too high.

Ok, that makes sense. I have never seen the Jungle Cruise underwater structure at DL. I have only seen WDW's and how hard that would be to jump the track. The DL boats also seem to have more sway and speed variability from my trips on it.
 

Skyway

Well-Known Member
Not only is DL's attraction prone to derailment, that section of track between the Native Uprising and the Hippo Pool is the single worst spot. Watch any YouTube video of JC and you'll notice the boat really rock in that section. It has to do with that S-curve before the hippos and the contours of the river bottom. The water sloshes like a washing machine, causing the boat to rise and lift off the track.
 

Neverland

Active Member
I do know that our Jungle has had some issues with crashing boats lately, although they didn't jump the track, it was some sort of throttle malfunction.

It seems hard for a Jungle boat to be going 'too fast'; the throttle, at least at WDW, only really does three things: forward, idle, and backward. It doesn't do fast or slow, only forward or back.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Two years ago? More than likely the Skipper isn't even employed by Disney anymore.

Why did they wait so long to bring this to court?
 

Pioneer Hall

Well-Known Member
Two years ago? More than likely the Skipper isn't even employed by Disney anymore.

Why did they wait so long to bring this to court?

Statute of limitations allows that to happen. It gives a lawyer more time to prepare their case. It probably also gives them the ability to blindside the defendant since the situation happened a while ago. I am a volunteer EMT in NJ and the statute of limitations there is 7 years. If I had a patient who was a minor they get until 25 (7 years from becoming an adult). So if I treat a 1 year old, they technically have 24 years to sue me...and let's be honest about how much I would remember from that day. Thankfully I never plan on getting sued ;)
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Statute of limitations allows that to happen. It gives a lawyer more time to prepare their case. It probably also gives them the ability to blindside the defendant since the situation happened a while ago. I am a volunteer EMT in NJ and the statute of limitations there is 7 years. If I had a patient who was a minor they get until 25 (7 years from becoming an adult). So if I treat a 1 year old, they technically have 24 years to sue me...and let's be honest about how much I would remember from that day. Thankfully I never plan on getting sued ;)

Just another reason for tort reform.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
Just another reason for tort reform.

Nonsense. Often, it may take months for an injury to materialize. The point of a trial, and the court system in general, is to determine the truth. I personally don't believe any of this story, but the statute of limitations has absolutely nothing to do with the facts of the case. What if you had been injured, but the injuries don't materialize for 6 months, yet the statute of limitations was one month? Many crimes have long statutes of limitations as well, allowing prosecutors and the police to investigate and build their case. Should we shorten those as well?

It's funny how people scream tort reform when it's nothing more than a bailout to shield corporations from legal liability. Contrary to popular belief, these huge judgments are non-existent. The huge ones make the news, but those are usually the only huge judgements, and the cases usually warrant them. Do people abuse the courts for financial game? Abslolutely. But it's an unpreventable consequence. Everything can be abused. Disney itself cames the tax system and corporate laws to their advantage, and people do the same in their daily lives. But the simple fact that abuse will occur in and of itself doesn't mean we scrap laws. Should would ban cars because people are going to speed? Should we ban a monetary system because some people will steal? Most so-called frivolous suits are tossed anyway. I'd reccommend people watch the documentary Hot Coffee to see what a sham tort reform really is.
 

mimitchi33

Well-Known Member
My guess is that maybe the person took some drugs before riding this! :ROFLOL:
I know, I know, it's a joke, but the real reason maybe the controls on the boats were messed up.
I feel sorry for the family, though!
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Nonsense. Often, it may take months for an injury to materialize. The point of a trial, and the court system in general, is to determine the truth. I personally don't believe any of this story, but the statute of limitations has absolutely nothing to do with the facts of the case. What if you had been injured, but the injuries don't materialize for 6 months, yet the statute of limitations was one month? Many crimes have long statutes of limitations as well, allowing prosecutors and the police to investigate and build their case. Should we shorten those as well?

It's funny how people scream tort reform when it's nothing more than a bailout to shield corporations from legal liability. Contrary to popular belief, these huge judgments are non-existent. The huge ones make the news, but those are usually the only huge judgements, and the cases usually warrant them. Do people abuse the courts for financial game? Abslolutely. But it's an unpreventable consequence. Everything can be abused. Disney itself cames the tax system and corporate laws to their advantage, and people do the same in their daily lives. But the simple fact that abuse will occur in and of itself doesn't mean we scrap laws. Should would ban cars because people are going to speed? Should we ban a monetary system because some people will steal? Most so-called frivolous suits are tossed anyway. I'd reccommend people watch the documentary Hot Coffee to see what a sham tort reform really is.
It's going to take 24 years for an injury to reveal itself? NONSENSE.

I was talking about Evans particular situation and, as usual, the lawyer types jump in. :rolleyes:

I'm out of this conversation with you...
 

hansel1

Member
Two years ago? More than likely the Skipper isn't even employed by Disney anymore.

Why did they wait so long to bring this to court?

Once the injury occurs (if there is one) it takes time to treat, heal, etc. Once the treatment is over the settlement packets go to the defense for examination. Most likely there is some type of settlement negotiations that could last weeks to months. When the two sides reach a standstill, the lawsuit is filed. Typically, even after the lawsuit is filed it still takes a couple of years to get into trial.
 

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