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Journey Into Imagination... what would you change?
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TropicalFig8
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I'd like if they had Dreamfinder and Figment go on a new adventure
But what about a Phineas & Ferb imagination ride or 3D movie for the theater?
But what about a Phineas & Ferb imagination ride or 3D movie for the theater?
BeachclubBubsie
New Member
As a 80's child... I grew up with Figment and the Dream Finder and did love it. When it was re-vamped i actually thought it was pretty cool that they had brought it into the 21st century. However, i think that it now needs more of a change and does get a bit boring after a while. I don't think that Disney should gut out the ride and start over. I think they need to continue with the modern perception of the senses but bring the Dream Finder back 
Yeah, Wonders of Life really is just a waste of space at the moment. I'm hoping that, if Imagination becomes seasonal or is eventually closed, it might prove to TDO that Epcot really needs more love than they think. I hope that maybe, with the (I'm assuming) re-imagining of Test Track, it might mean that TDO will give other areas of Epcot some tender love and care, specifically Imagination.
I'd personally they rather keep Journey Into Imagination (not the current reincarnation, but the idea in general with Figment and hopefully Dreamfinder), but I agree with gutting the whole building/tearing it down and starting from scratch. Maybe they could redesign the glass pyramids in the process and just make the whole area more stunningly beautiful than it already is?
I'd personally they rather keep Journey Into Imagination (not the current reincarnation, but the idea in general with Figment and hopefully Dreamfinder), but I agree with gutting the whole building/tearing it down and starting from scratch. Maybe they could redesign the glass pyramids in the process and just make the whole area more stunningly beautiful than it already is?
Clever Name
Well-Known Member
I agree. In the next incarnation, Dreamfinder's balloon will be a gigantic microwave popcorn bag. As the ride progresses, the bag will grow bigger and bigger and finally explode at the end. Dreamfinder and Figment will get the credit for perfecting microwave popcorn but we'll discover that the many hours they were exposed to the microwaves due to the experimentation cost them their lives. They can do some sort of patriotic memorial service at the end
StupidJudy
Active Member
I really dislike Nigel Channing. I would take him out of there. Bring Dreamfinder back!!
mimitchi33
Well-Known Member
I'll agree with the majority of the people to bring back Dreamfinder, even though I like the current ride.
What does this have to do with Journey Into Imagination? Because someone mentioned the devil?
That idea sounds too funny for words!
I've never heard anyone say Voyage of the Little Mermaid was bad before. I actually liked it.
Well, Phineas and Ferb already has an attraction at EPCOT...
SUGOI! I like this idea the most! (But now, I'm hungry for microwave popcorn...Ikadakimasu!)
What does this have to do with Journey Into Imagination? Because someone mentioned the devil?
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
You're misreading me.
What I said is that the original Imagination was a monster compared to the new Mermaid ride, meaning that Imagination was huge in terms of size, length, and scope.
All of the original EPCOT omnimover rides were.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Outside of bringing back Dreamfinder and Figment, I think that's probably the best idea having to do with "imagination"
EPCOT Futureworld as a whole has lost what made it special. It was a park where all the rides told a different chapter in a larger story. It was never meant to be a "thrill" park. It was edutainment. While the "updates" over the past decade have added thrill aspects to the park, they bring little to no educational value.
Test Track, for example. Fun ride, but it really doesn't teach you squat. There is a short educational video before you get into the internal queue, but more often then not it gets skipped (it's supposed to be similar to the library at ToT). The rest of the ride is just flimsy crap with no underlying story and worthless dialogue...and everyone on the ride knows they are just waiting for the finale.
You walk out of the ride with your hair windswept, and your mind just as dull as when you went in.
While I can understand the need to include thrill rides to try and boost park attendance, I don't see why they couldn't do something that integrated aspects of the edutainment dark rides with the thrill ride itself.
The current state of the Imagination pavilion shows that, when it comes to Futureworld, Imagineers have lost their "little spark". Dumbing things down doesn't make "learning cool!" just like turning Figment into a potty humored annoying jackass doesn't make "Imagination fun!".
On a brighter note though, it appears Disney may be heading back in this direction, as evidenced with Cars Land at Disneyland (their version of Test Track).
TropicalFig8
Active Member
Well,we all know the reason.
Our society doesn't believe education can be fun and expect to go on vacation without learning.
bubbles1812
Well-Known Member
Some of my best vacations have been "edu-tainment."
I honestly would love to see more of it, especially at Epcot, where it fits the theme so well. That said, yes, I know many people who just want to zone out entirely on vacation, which I guess is something I understand, it's fine, but I feel like they don't always know what they are missing.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Some of my best vacations have been "edu-tainment."
I second that.
Furthermore, I'm not asking that Disney shy away from thrill rides and stick with dark omnimovers or anything...but they could have taken something like test track and done so much more with it. If they spent more time "building up" to the finale, and then really wowing you, instead of jerking you around in a pretty much unimpressive display of a "smooth ride" during the first 3/4s of the ride.
Instead of viewing it as balls to the wall "action"...they could easily have put some more educational aspects into the ride. Instead of saying "We test the heat, wow that's hot", they could have slowed down before you get there and said "Heat is an important factor in blah blah blazeh blah." It doesn't have to be long, 30 - 45 seconds, but it makes the test even more memorable as now you know WHY they do it.
I dunno, the old Epcot will never come back. This I know. But, hopefully someone will take over park imagineering that realizes that it's not always about the thrills...and sometimes, the most memorable rides are the ones where you can just sit and wonder at the details.
Classic example. Mission Space, which is ridable once or twice, and you have the whole thing memorized and don't care to do it again? Or Horizons, where people would literally line up as soon as they exited to try "a new way home"?
The classic Horizons wouldn't play well to a modern audience, but as I've heard Disney Imagineers say many times before, they don't design "rides"...they design "stories"...well, Mission Space's story is ty and full of plot holes. It seems they just paid lip service when they designed that one. It could have been so much cooler.
I also understand they want to limit ride time to keep the lines flowing. That's fine, use interactive queues to really build the story and set the stage for the ride. One idea I had was if they'd taken aspects of the old World of Motion and turned them into a walkthrough "ride" in the queue. That way you got the "past" in the queue, and the rode the "future" in the ride.
But no, you get to walk through a boring garage. How...imaginative.
FigmentJedi
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Obviously Figment and Dreamfinder return. Feel of the original as well as some of it's story flow without the creation of Figment, but rather existing right away. Uses Honey Hunt's ride system. Irons SSE inspired opening with audio of quotes on creativity as well as appropriate Disney material, with flashes of imagery through the clouds before we see Dreamfinder and Figment out on a collecting trip. Don't have much else specific in mind.
ImageWorks upstairs open again with the ride reclaiming its space. Magic Eye has a Figment and Dreamfinder 3D adventure and added to entertainment outside is a small improv show featuring Dreamfinder and repurposed versions of Tapestry's Dreamseekers.
Imagination movie would definitely be ideal as far as park inspired movies go. Hell, the history of the pavilion could easily serve as inspiration for a story much like Oswald's history is such a big part of Epic Mickey. Make it animated switching between 2D Dreamport and CG Institute and you got some commentary there.
ImageWorks upstairs open again with the ride reclaiming its space. Magic Eye has a Figment and Dreamfinder 3D adventure and added to entertainment outside is a small improv show featuring Dreamfinder and repurposed versions of Tapestry's Dreamseekers.
Imagination movie would definitely be ideal as far as park inspired movies go. Hell, the history of the pavilion could easily serve as inspiration for a story much like Oswald's history is such a big part of Epic Mickey. Make it animated switching between 2D Dreamport and CG Institute and you got some commentary there.
George Lucas on a Bench
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It needs to be completely destroyed on the inside. Then, we need to get the time rovers from Countdown to Extinction to transport some imagineers from the 70s and 80s to present day. Acquaint them with modern technology and then get them to redesign the ride.
Bairstow
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You wouldn't need a time machine; Tony Baxter is still with the company.
muteki
Well-Known Member
I would love to see the space used for the new (old now, I guess) kodak post show reclaimed for the ride. I would love to see the upstairs put in use again so people can see that beautiful atrium again, the architecture is so wasted as it is now. I would like to see the EO/HISTA theater gutted and the space combined with that of main building for additional ride/pre-post show space.
As for the ride itself, get Dreamfinder back, get Eric Idle (imagination institute in general) out, and do something creative. They don't have to get the rotating turntable working again or bring the airship back (though I would love that too) just Dreamfinder+Figment+creativity.
I don't want to lose the current building, but if I got the above in a new building, I'd take that too.
As for the ride itself, get Dreamfinder back, get Eric Idle (imagination institute in general) out, and do something creative. They don't have to get the rotating turntable working again or bring the airship back (though I would love that too) just Dreamfinder+Figment+creativity.
I don't want to lose the current building, but if I got the above in a new building, I'd take that too.