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Jim Hill: Animal Kingdom Draining Away
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barnum42 said:
The Romans knew that water + metal + air = oxidation (rust).
I wouldn't be surprised though if this matter winds up in court. Disney could have a substantial chance in getting compensated provided that they subbed out design/engineering and construction of the drainage system. BLAME THE ENGINEERS!!!
Also building components manufacturers warantee their products. Unless the pipes were installed wrong (something which would not surprise me), they also might get some compensation from the manufacturer.I might not be all the doom and gloom that Jim says. And at least the park isn't in danger of being swallowed up by Earth...yet:lookaroun
Empress Room
Active Member
This story sounds watered down to me (sorry, couldn't resist).
If (and that's a big "if") the story has any truth to it, I would hazard to guess that any money from the maintenance budget would have little or no effect on the future attractions/imagineering budget. It could very well impact other maintenance and groundskeeping projects, but probably not attractions.
If (and that's a big "if") the story has any truth to it, I would hazard to guess that any money from the maintenance budget would have little or no effect on the future attractions/imagineering budget. It could very well impact other maintenance and groundskeeping projects, but probably not attractions.
Yen_Sid1
New Member
I can verify that AK has major plumbing problems. In fact, a section of the main drainage for the park, on the west side of the savannah just on the other side of the perimeter road, has been has dug up and repaired at least 5 times. It was just the cheap stuff, corrugated metal piping, which collapsed easily. Now it seems that they are finally replacing with concrete piping and this is the main drainage for the park. I'm talking about 8' foot pipes.
They had to totally rework the drainage system where Everest is going, in fact, it delayed a lot of the construction from starting on time. They had to reroute the perimeter road, a lot of detours and bumps, they were pumping water out day and night for months. The drainage system definitely needs to be replaced or repaired.
That's what happens when you try to save money and do it on the cheap. It will cost you a lot more money in the long run. But, of course, it will come out of a different budget then. But, I 'm not sure how that will affect the budget for new attractions, that remains to be seen.
They had to totally rework the drainage system where Everest is going, in fact, it delayed a lot of the construction from starting on time. They had to reroute the perimeter road, a lot of detours and bumps, they were pumping water out day and night for months. The drainage system definitely needs to be replaced or repaired.
That's what happens when you try to save money and do it on the cheap. It will cost you a lot more money in the long run. But, of course, it will come out of a different budget then. But, I 'm not sure how that will affect the budget for new attractions, that remains to be seen.
Fair enough Steve
I think I understand where you're coming from. Sure a lot of people know to take JM witha pinch of salt, but lots don't. Also thinking about it the last few times have resulted in JHM bashing, which isn't what I intended in posting it. I posted it because A) I hadn't heard of the poor dranage before, and B) Wanted to know if it was correct.
I think I understand where you're coming from. Sure a lot of people know to take JM witha pinch of salt, but lots don't. Also thinking about it the last few times have resulted in JHM bashing, which isn't what I intended in posting it. I posted it because A) I hadn't heard of the poor dranage before, and B) Wanted to know if it was correct.
brentley2
Member
God- Jim Hill.
Wouldn't it be about normal to not see another attraction in Animal Kingdom for two years anyway? I mean- think about it- Everest won't open til mid-2006, right? That would only be about a year and a half between atractions or so- pretty normal for Disney- if AK was opening something else between 2006 and 2008, Disney would have to be working on it NOW- given Disney's penchant for taking two to three times longer than any other theme park to build their attractions.
Jim Hill is annoying anyway- he is pretty much always inflammatory, and plus- he is an AWFUL writer- I hate the way he has to segue into his next topic or section of his article with questions. "Why for you ask?" "What are you thinking now?" "What's that you say?" ugh- give me a freaking break.
Wouldn't it be about normal to not see another attraction in Animal Kingdom for two years anyway? I mean- think about it- Everest won't open til mid-2006, right? That would only be about a year and a half between atractions or so- pretty normal for Disney- if AK was opening something else between 2006 and 2008, Disney would have to be working on it NOW- given Disney's penchant for taking two to three times longer than any other theme park to build their attractions.
Jim Hill is annoying anyway- he is pretty much always inflammatory, and plus- he is an AWFUL writer- I hate the way he has to segue into his next topic or section of his article with questions. "Why for you ask?" "What are you thinking now?" "What's that you say?" ugh- give me a freaking break.
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
brentley2 said:
well said! :sohappy:
I can't do any better, so I'll say ditto. The timing of his 2008 project is very telling. Of course another large project wouldn't be completed until 2008 since it hasn't started yet and probably won't start in the near future with the work progressing on E:E. So, he will use that fact and turn it around to show how he's always right.
Article said:
Great writing skills, huh? :lol:
By the way... Any AK CM's know if the above statement is true?
disneydata
Well-Known Member
I'll ask around with friends down there, but I highly doubt the route was changed. They make it that was for a reason and to reroute they would need to re-pour concrete and such which I haven't heard anything about yet.wannab@dis said:
Poncho1973
New Member
ogryn said:
Who me? NEVER!
:goodnevil
Snapper Bean
Active Member
Make sure you ask the cast members whether it was "actually allegedly" changed or "definitely maybe changed."
Snapper Bean
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