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ISTCrew's August 9th WDW Update
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ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
read your profile.
Originally posted by ISTCrew20
Yea..the profile...I do however, have a story for you Steve that you may find interesting. I'll pm you with it later, your gonna laugh so hard. I would type it here, but im in school right now:hammer: ....Im learning:lol: ....riiiiight
OK thanks
Coaster Guy
New Member
Setting the Story Straight...Hopefully
I can assure you (and don't think this is just one of our lines) that there is ABSOLUTELY no difference in the speed (within .1 rpm) at which the bays spin. Which means there is virtually no difference in the G's in the different bays. It's nothing you would be able to feel. And the variances are not bay to bay, it is spin to spin.
Steve is probably right about why theses differences occur too. They are most likely environmental. And need I reiterate YOU WILL NOT FEEL A DIFFERENCE!! If the speeds were off by that much, it would cause a ride stop, which has happened before. The computer system is so sensitive that everything has to work perfectly or one of the computersw will shut the bay down.
Now ISTCrew20, I, like most people, enjoy reading your news reports. Even though I am in the building almost everyday and know what is going with Mission: Space (both what the guests know and ISTC Crew members know), I enjoy reading your posts and seeing our ride through the guests' point of view. It is very cool for you to do this for the poeple who are not fortunate enough to be here and experience the attraction as much as we get to. I know I don't post much here, I pretty much only read the posts, but they often end with me being annoyed that the wrong information is being comunicated to the world by people who are not in the know. It does irritate me and the others who work at Mission: Space that there is a lot of misinformation in these boards that people take as truths. Much of that information comes from people who post without knowing what is going on. I am not the type of know it all person to correct every little mis-statement on these boards. You do not see me posting every night making corrections, that is not my job. But over the last few days, my job at Mission: Space has gotten more stressful. I have been at Team Dispatch and had people request the Red Room. It was down and they were insistant that they wanted that one and started to make a scene. I asked them why and they said they wanted their first trip to be the best. He told me that is what he heard on the internet. I reminded him that not everything on the internet is true, it is merely a public media. Basically the point I am trying to make is if you are not fairly certain about what you are talking about, please do not post it. You have shown that you have crediblilty in the past and now you are using that authority to post your ideas while making them sound factual. If you are going to report new information, please do a little research, report responsibly and seperate fact and opinion. If you have a question about the ride, just ask. It is better to ask, than to assume and spread incorrect information. PLEASE do not jump to conclusions!
I hope I didn't sound too preachy, I am just calmly making my thoughts and feelings known. Please don't take it personally and think I hate your updates, I don't. They are very informative but sometimes misleading. Thank you
I can assure you (and don't think this is just one of our lines) that there is ABSOLUTELY no difference in the speed (within .1 rpm) at which the bays spin. Which means there is virtually no difference in the G's in the different bays. It's nothing you would be able to feel. And the variances are not bay to bay, it is spin to spin.
Steve is probably right about why theses differences occur too. They are most likely environmental. And need I reiterate YOU WILL NOT FEEL A DIFFERENCE!! If the speeds were off by that much, it would cause a ride stop, which has happened before. The computer system is so sensitive that everything has to work perfectly or one of the computersw will shut the bay down.
Now ISTCrew20, I, like most people, enjoy reading your news reports. Even though I am in the building almost everyday and know what is going with Mission: Space (both what the guests know and ISTC Crew members know), I enjoy reading your posts and seeing our ride through the guests' point of view. It is very cool for you to do this for the poeple who are not fortunate enough to be here and experience the attraction as much as we get to. I know I don't post much here, I pretty much only read the posts, but they often end with me being annoyed that the wrong information is being comunicated to the world by people who are not in the know. It does irritate me and the others who work at Mission: Space that there is a lot of misinformation in these boards that people take as truths. Much of that information comes from people who post without knowing what is going on. I am not the type of know it all person to correct every little mis-statement on these boards. You do not see me posting every night making corrections, that is not my job. But over the last few days, my job at Mission: Space has gotten more stressful. I have been at Team Dispatch and had people request the Red Room. It was down and they were insistant that they wanted that one and started to make a scene. I asked them why and they said they wanted their first trip to be the best. He told me that is what he heard on the internet. I reminded him that not everything on the internet is true, it is merely a public media. Basically the point I am trying to make is if you are not fairly certain about what you are talking about, please do not post it. You have shown that you have crediblilty in the past and now you are using that authority to post your ideas while making them sound factual. If you are going to report new information, please do a little research, report responsibly and seperate fact and opinion. If you have a question about the ride, just ask. It is better to ask, than to assume and spread incorrect information. PLEASE do not jump to conclusions!
I hope I didn't sound too preachy, I am just calmly making my thoughts and feelings known. Please don't take it personally and think I hate your updates, I don't. They are very informative but sometimes misleading. Thank you
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
So...you are trying to censor Patrick for reporting his feelings to the masses because it's making your job as a Cast Member more difficult...basically? Last I checked, these are discussion forums, so Patrick may post whatever he thinks about Mission: SPACE. He has certainly experienced this attraction more than most on these boards, so I would say he knows what he's talking about. If he says Red is consistently a better ride experience than the others, then it is. Having ridden it 57 times over the course of five days, I agree with his views. Forum members are more than capable of thinking for themselves, so if they choose to accept Patrick's opinions as fact, great. If not, great. Do not try to censor users. If users want widely-accepted fact, they will only read the News pages at www.wdwmagic.com. When users visit forums.wdwmagic.com, they expect to find guest opinions, and that is what they find. If that makes your job as a Cast Member more difficult, my condolences. This is a Discussion Forum. We should just be happy that the latest Mission: SPACE discussions have been civil...but, I will always stick up for my friends when a user lacking either webmaster or moderator status tries to silence them.
I didn't consider CoasterGuys post as trying to censor anyone, he even went out of his way to say how he appreciated Patricks updates.
The point is, members of Imagineering who are working on the attraction, and now MS cast members, are saying that there is no difference between the various bays in terms of centrifuge performance. You, ISTCNavigator57, have consistently posted in a style that projects your opinion that there are differences as fact. That is your opinion, but you have to accept that people who know the ride system intimately, do not agree with that statement, and they are entitled to say so. We have listened to you stating each bay is different, so you have to listen to other stating that each bay is the same.
As to you saying you have ridden it a lot of times, I have heard from people working on the ride who have clocked up over 1000 spins. Infact there are members on this forum who have ridden space many many times, but choose not to advertise the fact. These same people are saying the ride performance is identical. So if you want to go by numbers of rides, you should consider that.
One of the great challenges with Space was to create a ride system which could deliver the same performance, again and again, across the different ride bays. As CoasterGuy reported, the ride system will not even permit the ride to continue if the performance criteria is not met.
Once again, I dont believe CoasterGuy was censoring anyone, and I am certainly not. I appreciate all of Patricks reports and will continue to do so.
monorail256
Member
Re: Setting the Story Straight...Hopefully
That means you work with Jackie....
...you should tell her to come on here. She's one of the best people working down there... not to mention cute
That means you work with Jackie....
...you should tell her to come on here. She's one of the best people working down there... not to mention cute
Shaman
Well-Known Member
Well I haven't been on M:S alot...compared to some on this site...but I think that the intensity is not based on the Centrifuge you ride but a combination of physical variations within and around the riders body as well as in the particular seat you are sitting in within the pod itself.
I personally have ridden on both Green and red....infact the last time I rode M:S I rode green and I remember it being far more "intense" than red. And then on one occasion I rode green and red one after the other and they felt the same.
I don't know maybe they are looking for just the right settings and maybe thats the cause for the difference...perhaps the settings change in all four bays at the same time (the same change)...so when some go into red and have a more intense ride...people on green could possibly be having the same intense ride as in the other bays aswell.
I don't work for Disney in any way, just stating my opinion.
I personally have ridden on both Green and red....infact the last time I rode M:S I rode green and I remember it being far more "intense" than red. And then on one occasion I rode green and red one after the other and they felt the same.
I don't know maybe they are looking for just the right settings and maybe thats the cause for the difference...perhaps the settings change in all four bays at the same time (the same change)...so when some go into red and have a more intense ride...people on green could possibly be having the same intense ride as in the other bays aswell.
I don't work for Disney in any way, just stating my opinion.
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
I have to agree that how you feel physically will affect your perception of what you experience. The ride seemed a lot more intense in any fuge after standing in the hot sun, running over to MS and going on the ride dehydrated versus riding it after digesting a good dinner and going on it hydrated at night. In fact, this may have played a major role in my getting sick after doing red the first time, regardless of the fact that I had done MS numerous times beforehand and never felt even slightly ill. However, after being well hydrated and cooler, red seemed the same as any other fuge. Thus, after reading so much from different riders about what is better or what not, I think a lot has to do with how you physically feel and what you psycholoigically want to feel. If a rider goes into red thinking it is stronger, it is more than possible he/she can "force" the G's to make it is seem stronger while relax in another fuge that is considered less intense. That isn't to say that's the reason any particular rider feels differences, its just my opinion. I'm not trying to convert or press my opinions on anyone, but I'm going to have to trust those working MS, since they are the ones trained in the actual technicalities of the ride's operation, that MS's fuges are identical. That was also my perception after riding it numerous times over the AP weekend
Re: Setting the Story Straight...Hopefully
Sorry to bring this old post back...but I was just rereading some old posts, and I came across that mess. I dont know who you are, nor do I really care. You could be a CM, and your probably not, thats not my business. But anyway, your whining about how all these people wanted ready room red. I mean, what?, you gave it right to them?...I mean, your a cm, just do your duty and tell people where there supposed to go. Seriously, your blaming me, for something every site has written about. I mean, Im not some insider posting inside information, I call it as I see it. How can you tell me that there not different, WHEN I FELT IT, FOR MYSELF!!! Oh well, I wish you luck, since its obviously so stressful putting every other guest in the ready room the request, because of MY updates. My sincere apologies
Sorry to bring this old post back...but I was just rereading some old posts, and I came across that mess. I dont know who you are, nor do I really care. You could be a CM, and your probably not, thats not my business. But anyway, your whining about how all these people wanted ready room red. I mean, what?, you gave it right to them?...I mean, your a cm, just do your duty and tell people where there supposed to go. Seriously, your blaming me, for something every site has written about. I mean, Im not some insider posting inside information, I call it as I see it. How can you tell me that there not different, WHEN I FELT IT, FOR MYSELF!!! Oh well, I wish you luck, since its obviously so stressful putting every other guest in the ready room the request, because of MY updates. My sincere apologies
JaynMACP96_97_9
New Member
Yikes!:hammer:
On the ride experience:
There's definately a placebo effect anytime you go into anything of which you have prior knowledge. As others have said, other outside influences such as sleep/food/mood also affect the way you interpret everything around you.
So if these guys are sincere about thinking there's a difference in how they experienced each of the centrifuges then i don't doubt them. However, like coaster guy said, if scientifically there isn't any difference then what you guys are experiencing is pyschological.
These boards are for sharing our perspectives and as much as we'd like to think we're experts in the various areas we work(ed)/play(ed) in, we're not. If someone reads these boards and then heads to a park/resort and pushes that information on a CM as if its fact, that's not the posters fault. The person pushing it on a CM should try and build on that info thru their own experience and not dictate what should happen to them because someone on a message board said so.
Also, don't get emotional over constructive criticism, you'll miss the point. :king:
On the ride experience:
There's definately a placebo effect anytime you go into anything of which you have prior knowledge. As others have said, other outside influences such as sleep/food/mood also affect the way you interpret everything around you.
So if these guys are sincere about thinking there's a difference in how they experienced each of the centrifuges then i don't doubt them. However, like coaster guy said, if scientifically there isn't any difference then what you guys are experiencing is pyschological.
These boards are for sharing our perspectives and as much as we'd like to think we're experts in the various areas we work(ed)/play(ed) in, we're not. If someone reads these boards and then heads to a park/resort and pushes that information on a CM as if its fact, that's not the posters fault. The person pushing it on a CM should try and build on that info thru their own experience and not dictate what should happen to them because someone on a message board said so.
Also, don't get emotional over constructive criticism, you'll miss the point. :king: