Is WDW Lowering Princess Standards?

Timekeeper

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Original Poster
Is WDW lowering their Princess standards? What kind of message is this sending to the kids?

See image below:



<img src="http://photoalbums.wdwmagic.com/data/500/437ariel.jpg">

:confused:

Timekeeper
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
Hahaha

Haha...


Ha...




Nice Airbrushing...


Just wait for Vince to see that and watch what happens...

:lookaroun
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
No Ring on the Finger?

She "supposedly" married Eric in the movie, but I don't see a ring on that finger.:brick:

Tk
 

Calamar

New Member
That's a bizarre picture, Timekeeper, to be sure. Unfortunately, in my experience the truth has been much more bizarre and disturbing than fiction. In October of 2001 at the Grand Floridian's breakfast buffet, I encountered a rather unusual Alice. As she lurked about my family and friends, she seemed 'curiouser and curiouser'; afterwards, my group confirmed my belief that something wasn't right about this particular cast member.

Now, let's fast forward a year or so. I'm discussing cast member requirements with a former CM at a WDW College Program presentation. Coincidentally, this CM is familiar with the Alice whom I met. It's a man.

<IMG src=http://68.211.34.205/images/malex.jpg>

... Inconceivable! I'm amazed that they couldn't find a girl who met the requirements of the role. Perhaps if this guy completely embodied the role of Alice, his superiors would have been justified in assigning him to the role -- well, not really, but let's just suppose that they'd be justified -- even then, it doesn't make sense; he wasn't a particularly good Alice. He was just creepy and awkward. :p

Ah, and the Alice in Wonderland cast members disappointed once again that morning when we discovered that the young girl seated at the adjacent table was celebrating her birthday. A perfect opportunity for the CMs to sing a variation of the Unbirthday Song, yes? A missed opportunity, tragically. Hence, my group took the initiative and sang "A Very Merry Birthday [etc.]" to her (heh, I did my best Ed Wynn impression, putting the poor, shy Mad Hatter to shame!).
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Not to be harsh, but this type of thread just takes space on the database. It's a funny picture that you souped up but nothing to start a thread about. Just trying to keep free space. Thanks. ;)
 

wdwfan22

Well-Known Member
This has nothing to do with General Walt Disney World Discussion. It's a waste of space. We scold others for asking the same thing, we should scold those that take up space on the database. I'm not trying to be mean but this should if anything be in Chit Chat
 

Atta83

Well-Known Member
Actually I do have some things to say abou tthe Princesses at Disnye. Some are entirerly to big to be playing the roles that young girl sso dream to be. I saw an exteremly over weight Belle int eh B&B show and was shocked!! Then I have heard cast members that do play Princesses actually had to lose weight before they could play them again. I once heard a little girl go up to a few ladies who were playing Princesses and ask them why they were so fat. It as kind of funny to see then get out of that situation. LOL
Atta
 

Timekeeper

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Original Poster
Princess... or "ex-prince"?

See, I guess people do have some "general discussion" opinions as to the state of Princesses at WDW. I think that the issue is open for "general discussion" as it concerns WDW.

The issue is not discrimination or equal opportunities; it's about finding someone that looks as close to the original character as possible. And I think that many of us have had experiences in seeing some characters that "stand out" because they do look so different from the actual characters. Characters should not "stand out" for negative reasons. Don't get me wrong, most of the characters are great, some even quite attractive. But in the rare occasion that WDW can only find a less-than-adequate look-alike, should'n't they maybe consider just not using that person in the first place? (And maybe send out a full-costumed character instead?)

Granted, my images are "exagerrated," though the issue remains.

As for Snow White...

<img src="http://photoalbums.wdwmagic.com/data/500/437snowwhite.jpg">

...that's just not right.:brick:

Timekeeper
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Re: Princess... or "ex-prince"?

Originally posted by Timekeeper
...The issue is not discrimination or equal opportunities; it's about finding someone that looks as close to the original character as possible...

Then why not post the REAL picture so we can see what you are talking about instead of altering it to make it look worse?
 

Calamar

New Member
Re: Re: Princess... or "ex-prince"?

Originally posted by raven
Then why not post the REAL picture so we can see what you are talking about instead of altering it to make it look worse?

Heh, well ... to be fair, it's easy to miss a chance for a good photograph, sometimes. I was lucky to seize the Man-Alice photo-op. Wait, did I say "lucky?" I intended to type "traumatized and compelled to remove my eyeballs with plastic Gasparilla Grill spoons."

Seriously, though, I'm sure Timekeeper will try harder next time to obtain some 'quality' prince[ss] photographs. I can clearly envision the situation: "Pardon me, misss ... ter. Could you pose for my Gallery of Scary Cast Members?"
 

Timekeeper

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Original Poster
Re: Re: Princess... or "ex-prince"?

Originally posted by raven
Then why not post the REAL picture so we can see what you are talking about instead of altering it to make it look worse?

Two simple reasons:

1) If they look bad, then I really don't 'want' to take pictures of them in the first place, and,

2) If I posted (unaltered) pictures of actual CM's who don't look good, I'd be opening myself up to tons of criticism for doing so.

I realize that either way I'm going to receive some criticism, but at least by providing these pictures I can do so in a lighter, more joking manner ...for people to laugh at.

Timekeeper :)
 

celestia

New Member
in response to the alice post, i believe many of the 'show' characters who are suposed to be female are men as well (ex. maleficent)
 

Atta83

Well-Known Member
Some times in teh castle show peter pan is played by a girl and tehn in fantasmic Maleificant is played by a man due to the heavy costume.
Atta
 

Calamar

New Member
Originally posted by celestia
in response to the alice post, i believe many of the 'show' characters who are suposed to be female are men as well (ex. maleficent)

Ah, that's basically what the College Program CM told me. She also mentioned that Tinkerbell is an extremely short man. Many female characters have very strict height and weight requirements or have physically demanding roles (for instance, Tinkerbell's performance in the shows), and it is often cheaper to find men who meet these requirements.

Mister Alice just confounds me, though. Wouldn't it be simple to find a girl to fill that role? I know several who would like to be cast as Alice and could meet Disney's standards for the character. And I don't think Alice has any physically strenuous duties, aside from chasing rabbits and falling into holes.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Calamar
...She also mentioned that Tinkerbell is an extremely short man. Many female characters have very strict height and weight requirements or have physically demanding roles (for instance, Tinkerbell's performance in the shows), and it is often cheaper to find men who meet these requirements.

Do you know why a woman plays the lead role in the stage version of Peter Pan? It's because when the show first started, the flying apparatis wasn't made to fit a mans anatomy. The music was changed to a different key and the tradition has been carried on since.
 

mkt

Disney's Favorite Scumbag™
Premium Member
sorry Calamar and Timekeeper, but I have to call
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The images are obviously photoshopped, and Tinkerbell has never been portrayed by a male.

If you're gonna waste bandwidth and f**k peoples minds, don't do it here, cause it's not needed.
 

Calamar

New Member
The images are obviously photoshopped, and Tinkerbell has never been portrayed by a male.[/B]

Mkt, I wish this were true, but it isn't, sir. That Alice image came directly from my camera, and I challenge you to find any evidence of editing (aside from me cropping out my family). As for Tinkerbell, I was just quoting a former cast member, but her story sounded plausible. I bet there are a couple of CMs here who could verify this.
 

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