Is Everest suffering from any budget cut-backs?

[DarkMeasures]

I only heard of one possible one around 18 months ago about the possibility of a no themed line but as far as I know, that isn't going to happen. Lee could probably answer this though.

But from what I understand, the modern concept of Everest doesn't seem to be able to be much grander than its current incarnation. But it does show that Imagineering (and management) is making a 180 degree turn.

I should also note that if Disney had made Sky Captian (though they did not), Everest would have fitted perfectly in Tommorowland at the Magic Kingdom. The ride could have remained the exact same as it is now and it would still fit in.

 

[EpcotFanatic04]

What point are you trying to make?

 

[se8472]

What!?!?!?!?

Everest in MK??!!?!

Sky Captain and the world of tomorrow by disney?!!?

I am so confused!

 

[DarkMeasures]

You would have needed to see the movie to understand why. But it involves both Mythical creatures at one point and Shangra-la at one point.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Has Disney ever built a ride that didn't have cut-backs? No.

 

[wdwmagic]

Has Disney ever built a ride that didn't have cut-backs? No.

Sure they have. American Adventure and the entire Disneyland Paris Resort spring to mind. They all had budgetry guidelines of "whatever it takes".

Onto the original question, very few people are going to be aware of real budget information, and much like what is being said about the Land, its all just internet speculation. The real information will never be made public. Regardless of whether budgets are cut or increased, it's entirely upto the Walt Disney Co how much, or how little they spend on the attraction. I think it's clear from the photos though, that its looking pretty spectacular!

 

[Tim G]

Sky Captain On Everest, Fighting The Yeti Of Tomorrow ? :veryconfu ?

 

[General Grizz]

Sure they have. American Adventure and the entire Disneyland Paris Resort spring to mind. They all had budgetry guidelines of "whatever it takes".

And let's not forget World of Motion and the original Imagination ride. Both of them surpassed their original budgets so much they had to have "cheaper" (but still impressive!) finales.

Did you know the World of Motion Future City was just a series of screens?

 

[TheOneVader]

Has Disney ever built a ride that didn't have cut-backs? No.

Tokyo DisneySeas

 

[se8472]

You would have needed to see the movie to understand why. But it involves both Mythical creatures at one point and Shangra-la at one point.

I did see the movie...that is why I am so confused.

I even know people who thought that it was a disney movie about tomorrowland.

I know I know the movie had some parts that took park in the same area as where Everest is being themed but beyond that I don't see a connection.

 

[Lee]

...its all just internet speculation.

Exactly.
I haven't seen any figures, but I don't know of anything that had to be cut due to budget issues.

And as far as the queue goes, it is getting exactly the queue it needs. The comparison has been made to Kali's queue as far as themeing, and I think that's pretty close. The day of the Indy or Pirates queue is over...well, except maybe for DisneySea.

 

[Captain Hank]

Exactly.
I haven't seen any figures, but I don't know of anything that had to be cut due to budget issues.

And as far as the queue goes, it is getting exactly the queue it needs. The comparison has been made to Kali's queue as far as themeing, and I think that's pretty close. The day of the Indy or Pirates queue is over...well, except maybe for DisneySea.

On a side-note, does that mean if MGM gets the Indy ride that it will have a reduced quality queue?

 

[Lee]

On a side-note, does that mean if MGM gets the Indy ride that it will have a reduced quality queue?

That's a BIG if....but, yes, if an Indy ride were to be built you could expect a much shorter queue than at DL. Their Indy had to have a long queue in order to get out of Adventureland and under the train tracks. That would not be necessary at WDW.
Plus, as great as that queue is, (the best ever in my opinion) now days it is mostly empty and unappreciated due to single riders and Fastpass.

 

[Moustronaut]

Plus, as great as that queue is, (the best ever in my opinion) now days it is mostly empty and unappreciated due to single riders and Fastpass.

And that reason more than anything is why the Super Amazing Detailed Queue is a quickly becoming a thing of the past. Ride engineers have developed such an efficient people management system it just isn't worth the expense to develop the queue. Simply no one sees them anymore.

 

[General Grizz]

And that reason more than anything is why the Super Amazing Detailed Queue is a quickly becoming a thing of the past. Ride engineers have developed such an efficient people management system it just isn't worth the expense to develop the queue. Simply no one sees them anymore.

Case in point: Philharmagic. It would have been pretty nice to have TV screens with classic cartoon shorts. (Symphony Hour, Silly Symphonies, and the dozens of music-based Mickey and friends shorts of the past. . . )

 

[Lynx04]

Plus, as great as that queue is, (the best ever in my opinion) now days it is mostly empty and unappreciated due to single riders and Fastpass.

I remember reading some where that because of fastpass Disney will probably not create queues like DL's Indy ride any more. For the exact reason Lee gave. The arguement was, "Why spend all this money on themeing a queue if people in the fastpass line won't be able to experience it."

Which I think is kind of a week arguement because just by looking at Splash Mountain's queue you can still see that there are tons of people in line. Even though there is a fastpass there is still a 60 min wait in line. The only people losing out are the people in the fastpass line. Well, I think they can give up something for getting to the ride a lot faster.

I will say that Kali's queue is done very well and if EE's queue has the same amount of themeing in it, then I would not complain.

Also, the comment on rides suffering from budget cuts. I don't know if they are. I don't see WDW in trouble financally, I don't see why they would cut the budget for an attraction. Going even further, EE is an important expansion for AK, they need all the expanding they can get. Therefore I don't see them cutting the budget for expansion, unless they are in financal trouble. I think what may happen which may make people think that there are budget cuts, if the attraction goes over budget and the budget can't afford the things they want to do. That is a different sitituation.

 

[speck76]

I think some things that get catagorized as "budget-cuts" may be more of "stick to the budget" type issues.

WDC has a habit of running over budget on many projects. The days of "whatever it takes" are gone, finances can no longer be managed that way.

Since many things run over budget, it is possible things have to be cut due to the budget. If a ride is supposed to cost $50million, and something pops up that will make it cost $60million, then $10million needs to be "cut".

 

[ZHoyt]

re: detailed queues, the argument against them just doesn't hold water. With the advent of fastpass, those who actually do stay in line are generally in a much slower moving loading situation. Do these people just not matter? Are they just screwed for not utilizing the fast pass system? Maybe too big a deal is being made here, but I don't think so. Queue theming has always been one of the areas Disney has been tops in. To let it slip would be a shame. For example. Rock and Roller Coaster. I refuse to do standby on that because I feel time would just stand still in a queue like that. Maybe space was the real reason behind that queue, but I would dread to see things like that becoming more common.

I'll never forget when I went on Indy around when it opened and got the deciphering card, it made waiting slip right away. Same with the Pirate's queue. So well done I had nightmares for years of being trapped inside there.

 

[Main Street USA]

Tokyo DisneySeas

Ha, well, Disney Sea has A LOT of funding that didn't come from Disney.

 

[waltdisny]

Did you know the World of Motion Future City was just a series of screens?

Really? Not to induce thread drift, but tell me more. I remember the city, and I distinctly remember lots of little flying gizmos (wonder what they'd be worth on ebay? ). I also remember that the high-speed room at one point had a film that had been stolen from TRON.

I had heard that the finale of JII had been cut. The puppet Figment's on screen were all supposed to be AA's. That would have been Glorious. Ahh, nostalgia...