threvester
Well-Known Member
yes
I don't want to get into any crazy arguments and chaos or anything, but our family took a vacation last weekend and it occurred to me to compare the cost of this vacation we took to a Disney vacation. Why? Well...we went to NYC for a couple nights and saw a couple shows on Broadway. Those who have followed my trip reports or been in discussions with me know that I do tend to enjoy a little Pixie Dust, but also come at things as a realist (25 years in public education will make you nothing if not a realist...). These costs are for our party of 3 - considered adults in Disney terms and in NYC it makes no difference! So, here's a little comparison from our perspective.
Travel (round trip)
WDW - 26 hours in the car, no tolls, about 4 full tanks of gas (thank you hybrid), and 4 fast food meals - $180
NYC - 8 hours in the car, lots of tolls, just over a full tank of gas, and some snacks - $110
Hotel (comparing like quality and Easter weekend)
WDW - in the middle of the action, but cheap - All-Star resorts for 2 nights - $410
NYC - Times Square area, cheap but not nasty! - for 2 nights $600
Parking
WDW - at an All-Star for 2 nights - $40
NYC - 2 nights in a garage (discounted by hotel, no in-out privileges) - $80
Entertainment
WDW - For comparison sake, we'll go with 3-day Park Hoppers (about 36 hours of entertainment)- $1160
NYC - 2 Broadway shows, 2 museum entrances (about 14 hours of entertainment) - $750
Food
WDW - 2 tables services, 5 quick services (we do tend to share meals at times) with adult beverages at times - $500
NYC - 2 decent dinners, 2 breakfasts at hotel, 3 lunches on the go, with adult beverages at dinners - $450
Totals
WDW - $2290 - with lots more car travel time, but lots more total entertainment
NYC - $1990 - lots less car travel time, but lots less total entertainment
Hmmm....either Disney isn't quite as outrageously expensive as I often think or NYC is beyond outrageous.
In terms of quality of experience, I'd have to side with Disney. Even on the worst days of quality of show at WDW, it's far worse walking down Broadway than any area of a Disney park. While the shows on Broadway are amazing for 3 hours at a time, the rest of the 3 days/2 nights isn't quite so quality. Yes, the Disney bubble ain't what it used to be, but it's still vastly superior to NYC for sure!
In terms of our family time - well, Disney again will win the argument. We tend to enjoy family time in the car for discussions and sing-alongs and maybe a movie or something. The shorter NYC drive is certainly less tense, the traffic issues on I95 from Baltimore to NYC are at least comparable to I4 if not a little worse. Once there - at WDW it is pure family-time and we are more than comfortable enough to do just about anything. In NYC, there's certainly a bit of looking over the shoulder at most times and there is no way we are letting our daughter of on her own to do things she is interested in!!!
It's funny because I've always thought of visits to WDW as crazy expensive, but something we enjoyed as a family and would continue to enjoy. After this past weekend...maybe they aren't quite so expensive and beyond just enjoying WDW, despite some decline, it is a quality experience that is above just about anywhere else.
It would make more sense to compare Disney World to other theme parks. Including Disney's other locations. Comparing Disney World to New York City is like comparing Frankie's Fun Park to going out to see a movie. If someone is wanting to go to a theme park, they're going to go to a theme park. Not New York City.
Yes it is a lot of funFor me if I wanted to go to NYC and I am making plans I can do it a lot cheaper than in your budget.
First you do not have to go to Manhattan and park in the heart of the city you can stay over night in the boroughs leave you car at the place you are staying, take a tour bus or subway.
Things to see Empire State Building, Broadway, Statue of Liberty, World Trade Center and many other things.
WDW what see the Haunted Mansion for the fourth or so time ?? I have not had fun at WDW in years.
Last time I went to Pandora "Fast Passes" forget it they are all gone.
The boring boat ride 2 hour wait, the only other attraction 4 hours ...... "No thanks"
All day long people packed the places and the shortest line was maybe 45 minutes...... this is fun ?
But you are not looking at that correctly. The 1.5 to 2 hours eating are in themed locations with great atmosphere, which I would consider part of the entertainment, the 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction, not sure what you mean here, and 3 hours waiting for rides, that almost all have ques and interactions to keep you busy while you are waiting, so if you are not consumed by phones, then there is a lot going onYou bring up some good points in how Disney compares to other vacations and I think you show from your final numbers that Disney does seem to charge a small upcharge just for being Disney. The one point of argument I would make is the amount of entertainment. You mentioned that Disney is somewhere around 36 hours for 3 days, so 12 hours a day. Realistically, let's break down how much time of that 12 you actually lose:
Before you know it, you've lost 6 hours of the 12 waiting or eating. I personally still think it's absolutely worth it going to Disney, but I think it's also important to recognize that you pay a premium over other vacations to do so.
- 1.5 - 2 hours for eating (assuming TS and QS you mentioned)
- 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction (assuming you got at least 1 or 2 FP for the other headliner at the park)
- 3 hours waiting at 7 - 8 second tier attractions (20 min each, which is impossible during Easter but for a baseline)
Then what it the world are you doing hanging out in a forum like this?
I think the main point the OP was making is that so many people say they won't go to WDW because it is too expensive. In reality, many places that people go on vacation are just as (or more) expensive then WDW. Especially when you compare the entertainment value of it. I bet many families spend just as much money on what ever vacation they take as they would going to WDW. We are flying out to Denver this fall for a family wedding and between the rental car/hotel/food/etc, it is going to cost us a couple grand.
But you are not looking at that correctly. The 1.5 to 2 hours eating are in themed locations with great atmosphere, which I would consider part of the entertainment, the 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction, not sure what you mean here, and 3 hours waiting for rides, that almost all have ques and interactions to keep you busy while you are waiting, so if you are not consumed by phones, then there is a lot going on
I understand what you are saying and if the issue was "is wdw expensive for a theme park vacation", then yes you would be right. But what I think most of us are talking about is how we always hear from people that they would go to wdw but they can't afford it, it's too expensive . In reality, a lot of people spend just as much if not more going in vacation to other destinations. Especially if you break down the amount of entertainment you get for your money. I think it is a mental thing. People are willing to spend more money on certain things and not others. I hear "Disney is too expensive" mostly from those who have never been. I don't think they comprehend the size and the amount of things to do there and mentally compare it other theme parks, so they don't see the value in it. All they see are the dollar signs.Different reasons make people go to different places, though. Because again, Disney World should be compared to the cost of other theme parks, to make it fair. Disney World and New York City aren't exactly the same thing. I see where ya'll are going with this, but it's irrelevant in my opinion. A vacation to a theme park is not the same as a vacation to a city. Certainly you can definitely choose and compare between the two, but it's not technically a fair estimate in my opinion.
The question is "Is Disney expensive?"
Compared to literally every other theme park in operation? Yes.
I would compare NYC to maybe West End or Chicago. THOSE are similar experiences in that realm. If you're wanting to go see professional shows, these are where you'd go.
It'd only be about $30/hr for me... if I was insane enough to want to run/walk/crawl 26.2 miles...The average runner in the Boston Marathon is shelling out around $45/hr for the "fun."
I'd do that, but, I suspect that somewhere between the starting line and .2 miles cardiac arrest would happen. So they had better charge up front.It'd only be about $30/hr for me... if I was insane enough to want to run/walk/crawl 26.2 miles...
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