Is Disney Expensive?

JIMINYCR

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I've vacationed in NY and visited all the hot tourist spots, had tickets for hit Broadway shows, eaten at top restaurants, been thouroughly entertained and had a wonderful time. BUUUUT I've never had anything on a NY trip that brings feelings of happiness, joy, relaxation, or had a staff member present me with anything magical that added to the moment of entertainment. The only possible part that I might concede was better for the money was a few meal experiences we received that far exceeded Disney.
Disney may cost more but it is far worth more in terms of what we get in return. I'll still book a Disney trip over something else.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
I don't want to get into any crazy arguments and chaos or anything, but our family took a vacation last weekend and it occurred to me to compare the cost of this vacation we took to a Disney vacation. Why? Well...we went to NYC for a couple nights and saw a couple shows on Broadway. Those who have followed my trip reports or been in discussions with me know that I do tend to enjoy a little Pixie Dust, but also come at things as a realist (25 years in public education will make you nothing if not a realist...). These costs are for our party of 3 - considered adults in Disney terms and in NYC it makes no difference! So, here's a little comparison from our perspective.

Travel (round trip)
WDW - 26 hours in the car, no tolls, about 4 full tanks of gas (thank you hybrid), and 4 fast food meals - $180
NYC - 8 hours in the car, lots of tolls, just over a full tank of gas, and some snacks - $110

Hotel (comparing like quality and Easter weekend)
WDW - in the middle of the action, but cheap - All-Star resorts for 2 nights - $410
NYC - Times Square area, cheap but not nasty! - for 2 nights $600

Parking
WDW - at an All-Star for 2 nights - $40
NYC - 2 nights in a garage (discounted by hotel, no in-out privileges) - $80

Entertainment
WDW - For comparison sake, we'll go with 3-day Park Hoppers (about 36 hours of entertainment)- $1160
NYC - 2 Broadway shows, 2 museum entrances (about 14 hours of entertainment) - $750

Food
WDW - 2 tables services, 5 quick services (we do tend to share meals at times) with adult beverages at times - $500
NYC - 2 decent dinners, 2 breakfasts at hotel, 3 lunches on the go, with adult beverages at dinners - $450

Totals
WDW - $2290 - with lots more car travel time, but lots more total entertainment
NYC - $1990 - lots less car travel time, but lots less total entertainment

Hmmm....either Disney isn't quite as outrageously expensive as I often think or NYC is beyond outrageous.

In terms of quality of experience, I'd have to side with Disney. Even on the worst days of quality of show at WDW, it's far worse walking down Broadway than any area of a Disney park. While the shows on Broadway are amazing for 3 hours at a time, the rest of the 3 days/2 nights isn't quite so quality. Yes, the Disney bubble ain't what it used to be, but it's still vastly superior to NYC for sure!

In terms of our family time - well, Disney again will win the argument. We tend to enjoy family time in the car for discussions and sing-alongs and maybe a movie or something. The shorter NYC drive is certainly less tense, the traffic issues on I95 from Baltimore to NYC are at least comparable to I4 if not a little worse. Once there - at WDW it is pure family-time and we are more than comfortable enough to do just about anything. In NYC, there's certainly a bit of looking over the shoulder at most times and there is no way we are letting our daughter of on her own to do things she is interested in!!!

It's funny because I've always thought of visits to WDW as crazy expensive, but something we enjoyed as a family and would continue to enjoy. After this past weekend...maybe they aren't quite so expensive and beyond just enjoying WDW, despite some decline, it is a quality experience that is above just about anywhere else.

It would make more sense to compare Disney World to other theme parks. Including Disney's other locations. Comparing Disney World to New York City is like comparing Frankie's Fun Park to going out to see a movie. If someone is wanting to go to a theme park, they're going to go to a theme park. Not New York City.
 

jaklgreen

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It would make more sense to compare Disney World to other theme parks. Including Disney's other locations. Comparing Disney World to New York City is like comparing Frankie's Fun Park to going out to see a movie. If someone is wanting to go to a theme park, they're going to go to a theme park. Not New York City.

I think the main point the OP was making is that so many people say they won't go to WDW because it is too expensive. In reality, many places that people go on vacation are just as (or more) expensive then WDW. Especially when you compare the entertainment value of it. I bet many families spend just as much money on what ever vacation they take as they would going to WDW. We are flying out to Denver this fall for a family wedding and between the rental car/hotel/food/etc, it is going to cost us a couple grand.
 

Dave B

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For me if I wanted to go to NYC and I am making plans I can do it a lot cheaper than in your budget.
First you do not have to go to Manhattan and park in the heart of the city you can stay over night in the boroughs leave you car at the place you are staying, take a tour bus or subway.

Things to see Empire State Building, Broadway, Statue of Liberty, World Trade Center and many other things.
WDW what see the Haunted Mansion for the fourth or so time ?? I have not had fun at WDW in years.
Last time I went to Pandora "Fast Passes" forget it they are all gone.
The boring boat ride 2 hour wait, the only other attraction 4 hours ...... "No thanks"
All day long people packed the places and the shortest line was maybe 45 minutes...... this is fun ?
Yes it is a lot of fun
 

Dave B

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You bring up some good points in how Disney compares to other vacations and I think you show from your final numbers that Disney does seem to charge a small upcharge just for being Disney. The one point of argument I would make is the amount of entertainment. You mentioned that Disney is somewhere around 36 hours for 3 days, so 12 hours a day. Realistically, let's break down how much time of that 12 you actually lose:
  • 1.5 - 2 hours for eating (assuming TS and QS you mentioned)
  • 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction (assuming you got at least 1 or 2 FP for the other headliner at the park)
  • 3 hours waiting at 7 - 8 second tier attractions (20 min each, which is impossible during Easter but for a baseline)
Before you know it, you've lost 6 hours of the 12 waiting or eating. I personally still think it's absolutely worth it going to Disney, but I think it's also important to recognize that you pay a premium over other vacations to do so.
But you are not looking at that correctly. The 1.5 to 2 hours eating are in themed locations with great atmosphere, which I would consider part of the entertainment, the 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction, not sure what you mean here, and 3 hours waiting for rides, that almost all have ques and interactions to keep you busy while you are waiting, so if you are not consumed by phones, then there is a lot going on
 

DznyGrlSD

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In the Parks
Yes
I spent 6 days in NYC last fall and I was unimpressed. If I ever go back, it'll have to be with someone who has lived there. We saw some cool stuff but I have no desire to go back any time soon.
 

ELG13

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I've compared a beach vacation where I like (15minutes away) to a Disney vacation and Disney is still cheaper when we compare everything like you did. The lodging alone on the beach is triple during the same time we go to Disney. Our beachs rival tropical locations and has won top beach recently, but it's not the same as far as what you get. I love the beach, but it's just that. I can come and go when I want but filling the same amount of time at the beach vs Disney? The kids are bored halfway through the first day. Everything is expensive now. I think Disney seems more expensive bc we are well aware of the cost before we go. Other vacations you may have your hotel booked and that's it. The rest is pay as you go...so what started out as a $800 price tag, ended up being $2200 when you added food, souvenirs, and any fun outings you did. With disney you can have it all paid for, including food, before you go so you see that $2000 and think "that's expensive for 3 nights". But then you only buy a few souvenirs and the rest is done.
 

Yert3

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Disney IMO has never been expensive. From experience with other vacations it’s actually been about the same if not less money. I also judge expense on what you get. Think of how much money goes into running a place like WDW. You have places in Orlando that are $50 for a ticket like the fun spot. Half the price of a MK ticket but less than a quarter of the quality. It’s comparible to a county fair. Thankfully, being a local now means my only Disney expense is my annual pass. No more traveling. :)
 

tribbleorlfl

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Sure it's expensive and value has decreased substantially in recent years, but I still think Disney still compares favorably against other forms of entertainment.

An One Day Peak MK ticket is $129; they are open 16 hours tomorrow, yielding a per hour cost just over $8.

An One Day One Park peak Universal Orlando ticket is $124; they are open 13 hours tommorow, yielding $9.50 hour (more than Disney!)

Average movie tickets are about $9; with the average movie clocking in at 2 hours, that's $4.50/hr.

Average NFL ticket was $172 last season, average game length of 3 hours yields $57.

Average weekend golf green fee is $36; at 4 hours, that comes out to $9/hr.

The average runner in the Boston Marathon is shelling out around $45/hr for the "fun."

San Diego Zoo comes out to $5.40/hr based on their hours tomorrow.

Your average Broadway show is over $100 now and being generous at 2 he's in length with intermission yields $50/hr.

Obviously a number of things can influence these comparisons, it doesn't factor travel or food costs, nor does it consider opportunity costs of waiting in line, but you get the picture.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
I think the main point the OP was making is that so many people say they won't go to WDW because it is too expensive. In reality, many places that people go on vacation are just as (or more) expensive then WDW. Especially when you compare the entertainment value of it. I bet many families spend just as much money on what ever vacation they take as they would going to WDW. We are flying out to Denver this fall for a family wedding and between the rental car/hotel/food/etc, it is going to cost us a couple grand.

Different reasons make people go to different places, though. Because again, Disney World should be compared to the cost of other theme parks, to make it fair. Disney World and New York City aren't exactly the same thing. I see where ya'll are going with this, but it's irrelevant in my opinion. A vacation to a theme park is not the same as a vacation to a city. Certainly you can definitely choose and compare between the two, but it's not technically a fair estimate in my opinion.

The question is "Is Disney expensive?"

Compared to literally every other theme park in operation? Yes.

I would compare NYC to maybe West End or Chicago. THOSE are similar experiences in that realm. If you're wanting to go see professional shows, these are where you'd go.
 

Kristoff

Member
But you are not looking at that correctly. The 1.5 to 2 hours eating are in themed locations with great atmosphere, which I would consider part of the entertainment, the 1 hour waiting for a headliner attraction, not sure what you mean here, and 3 hours waiting for rides, that almost all have ques and interactions to keep you busy while you are waiting, so if you are not consumed by phones, then there is a lot going on

If you consider a restaurant entertainment, then you need to examine the cost versus what else you could do with it. Let's take Crystal Palace for a party of 2 adults as an example which takes an hour. The total cost of the experience is $90 at Disney or $30 at a Golden Corral or Old Country Buffet outside Disney, so let's assume you are paying $60 for the entertainment portion of Crystal Palace. You then need to compare activities you could do with that $60 outside of Disney. Two people could easily go see a movie (with snacks) and go for a few drinks afterwards and have 3x more entertainment time for the same cost as Disney. Strictly from a cost perspective, if they chose to just save that money than there is a net loss on entertainment hours but a net gain on price which ultimately even out and bring you to the same conclusion, that Disney entertainment is more expensive than entertainment outside of Disney. Now if you wanted to have an argument on value, that's a completely different topic that is extremely subjective.

In terms of my headliner wait time comment, let's take a look at Epcot. Currently the three big attractions have the following wait times:
  • Frozen Ever After - 60 minute wait
  • Test Track - 125 minute wait
  • Soarin - 80 minute wait
Due to the tiered nature of fast pass, you would have to wait at one or two of these if you wanted to do them all. In this case you would be waiting over two hours, which is higher than my original stated 60 wait time, but it was an example.

Finally let's address queues. Let's take a ride with a ton of interactive queues (Haunted Mansion). Currently the wait is 50 minutes. Can you breakdown for me how the queue provides say 20 minutes worth of entertainment for you (excluding the pre-show where you get into the stretching room)?
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
Different reasons make people go to different places, though. Because again, Disney World should be compared to the cost of other theme parks, to make it fair. Disney World and New York City aren't exactly the same thing. I see where ya'll are going with this, but it's irrelevant in my opinion. A vacation to a theme park is not the same as a vacation to a city. Certainly you can definitely choose and compare between the two, but it's not technically a fair estimate in my opinion.

The question is "Is Disney expensive?"

Compared to literally every other theme park in operation? Yes.

I would compare NYC to maybe West End or Chicago. THOSE are similar experiences in that realm. If you're wanting to go see professional shows, these are where you'd go.
I understand what you are saying and if the issue was "is wdw expensive for a theme park vacation", then yes you would be right. But what I think most of us are talking about is how we always hear from people that they would go to wdw but they can't afford it, it's too expensive . In reality, a lot of people spend just as much if not more going in vacation to other destinations. Especially if you break down the amount of entertainment you get for your money. I think it is a mental thing. People are willing to spend more money on certain things and not others. I hear "Disney is too expensive" mostly from those who have never been. I don't think they comprehend the size and the amount of things to do there and mentally compare it other theme parks, so they don't see the value in it. All they see are the dollar signs.
 

Goofyernmost

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It'd only be about $30/hr for me... if I was insane enough to want to run/walk/crawl 26.2 miles...
I'd do that, but, I suspect that somewhere between the starting line and .2 miles cardiac arrest would happen. So they had better charge up front.:in pain::jawdrop::hungover:
 

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