Hakunamatata
Le Meh
Corporate speak is corporate speak. From over using terms to using terms and phrases that when you think about them make no sense. For instance, if the magic is calling how can the magic be you?
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Is anyone else getting tired of Disney Storytelling Speil
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Goofyernmost
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Nothing like missing the point completely. My fault, I guess I did ramble a bit. What I should have said is that Disney current "story" is that paying that much money is a good deal and worth the money. For some, like yourself apparently, feel it is worth it, you are welcome to making sure the the Disney Executives are all multi-millionaires by the time they leave the company. I do not see that value anymore! I started going to Disney Parks in 1983 (39 years ago) and during that time have made 45 visits to WDW of at least 4 days each, one week long visit to Disneyland and a day at Disneyland Paris. I have seen what they were like back then and I can say, expertly, that they have fallen many level since then.
Now there is nothing offered except a high price to just walk around to stand for hours in never moving lines, Brand new attractions that have reputations of being broken down most of the time. Attractions that they spent billions on. Good quality control folks. That is the current story that Disney is telling without words being spoken except them telling you how great things are there and what a dream it is to be there. Having seen the before, the after is sickening. So even if I had the money to throw away, I wouldn't because the thing that first hooked me, the magic, is gone. It has sold its soul, for people like Chapek to retire a rich man.
This is coming from a man that used to have family members concerned because I was such an avid Disney fan that they were sure that I was obsessed with the place. I was, but they stole it from me. I no longer belong and I am angry about it and since I know what once was, I can now separate myself from it and not listen to hypocritical, uninspired stories. I was really impressed with creations like Star Wars Land. The attention detail was like the past, then they made it more and more difficult to actually see it. The old Disney wasn't like that, and it shouldn't be now, but it is left to be supported by people like yourself, which I guess is alright, that is your business as my being upset is mine, so yes I am saying that things are horrible, I don't like what has happened and it is the new narrative is that I should pay massive amounts of money for a smaller, less exciting experience. They are connected.
Californian Elitist
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Pretty sure that wasn’t their point though.
DisneyHead123
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I think that corporate speak is always going to sound corporate speaky. But as far as a hoped for direction goes, I like them choosing storytelling over whatever their previous direction was (something like “More cowbell!!” on the special effects, lol - Runaway Railway just seems like a string of disjointed “wow” moments, the Frozen and Little Mermaid rides are low on atmosphere and emotional buildup that would result in an emotional payoff.)
How successful they will be in this endeavor is another question, but as a focal point I think it’s a good one.
How successful they will be in this endeavor is another question, but as a focal point I think it’s a good one.
Grew up watching MM Club (in B & W) & devoted fan ever since. Walt Disney WAS a storyteller. His writers brought our fairy tales & legends to life on film. His Imagineers created theme parks where we could experience them.
THAT was the key difference between Disney Parks & the thousands of 'amusement parks', county fairs & boardwalk arcades everywhere.
That began to change as various management tried to keep up with entertainment trends-Hard to do when trends are outdated in 15 minutes or months while building them at the parks took YEARS. Every hit film is NOT a classic.
Then as technology advanced, new generations of Imagineers & management presumed 'storytelling' meant giving guests the same experiences they could have in their homes. The ingredients for what makes a good 'story' were lost (Walt said it needed a tear & a smile.) The video-game generation had kids!!!
Along comes a Chapek who thinks he sees culture becoming less about emotion & more gratified by whatever enjoyment we get from pushing buttons to make things happen on a screen. IMO, he truly thinks forcing guests to run from point-to-point dominated by our phones (why bother with detailed theming anymore?) & insane scheduling is the kind of experience this generation relates to as will the next. He thinks Imagineers with no respect for the past (nostalgia is forbidden) should create soulless entertainment like Harmonious-a mash of music unrelated to anything meaningful or worse, unrelated to trad Disney feels, Enchantment...IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM !?!
Soon, we can all just stay home....Dis virtual reality products & a DIS+ playlist will be cheaper & more comfortable.
Chapek is no visionary. Neither are too many in management...even too many Imagineers. The reason we reject current claims of 'storytelling' is bc it's a FRAUD. THERE ARE NO STORIES worth telling in what is being sold to us.
We'll be left with the damage Chapek is doing when he moves on. For millions, the new Disney, a glorified amusement park will be enough.
We're in a transition period much like the battle between Roy E. Disney & Eisner was.
I didn't root for Eisner.
No matter what YOUR expectation of Disney is, all of us will be making choices in the next few years.
BeentoallDParks
Active Member
I fully agree with you. The company overuses it. It’s especially noticeable when it’s using the word to flog something that isn’t even a story, like a housing development.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
The Magic call is coming from inside the mouse
The Empress Lilly
Well-Known Member
"Story + technology = magic"
Direct Chapek quote. On this simplistic bovine waste passing for deep analytical insight Chapek made it to the top. It now leaks from his pants down not just to marketing gibberish, but also informs and directs creative decisions.
The formula is not even all that wrong. There's just something so stifling and corporate about it. Disney product forever threads a difficult balance between genuine creative spark and corporate plastic ware. And I'm not convinced Chapek's relentless customer data into formulaic approach will get that right.
Direct Chapek quote. On this simplistic bovine waste passing for deep analytical insight Chapek made it to the top. It now leaks from his pants down not just to marketing gibberish, but also informs and directs creative decisions.
The formula is not even all that wrong. There's just something so stifling and corporate about it. Disney product forever threads a difficult balance between genuine creative spark and corporate plastic ware. And I'm not convinced Chapek's relentless customer data into formulaic approach will get that right.
spock8113
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"Is anyone else getting tired of Disney Storytelling Speil"
I don't know, I haven't been here. Tell me a story about it.
I believe it's bovine residue.
Chapek is another classic example of how corporate executives simply advertise each other and put each other on each other's boards like Mary Barra or Carly Fiorina. Bad executives aren't limited to self-serving men. And when they fail miserably, they simply ooze over onto another board of another friend of another big company. Just follow the executives at DuPont, ENRON, Hooker chemical or PSE & G.
Two words: Golden parachutes
I don't know, I haven't been here. Tell me a story about it.
I believe it's bovine residue.
Chapek is another classic example of how corporate executives simply advertise each other and put each other on each other's boards like Mary Barra or Carly Fiorina. Bad executives aren't limited to self-serving men. And when they fail miserably, they simply ooze over onto another board of another friend of another big company. Just follow the executives at DuPont, ENRON, Hooker chemical or PSE & G.
Two words: Golden parachutes
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Pirate Magic
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In my opinion Chapek is not sincere and it shows, and what he is selling is magic beans that do not work. High prices and very long lines and a lot of very frustrate guest.
Dissociative identity disorder. If they can "split" your personality. It creates double the revenue stream.
Hakunamatata
Le Meh
Heppenheimer
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I'm telling my other personalities to stay home, then. They can pay their own way!
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And that’s the risk for Disney. What if one of them wants to go to Uni?
The Lochness Monsta
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I agree with the OP's post, Disney can be a bit on the lame side sometimes. I don't like when they say "Walt would want this..." Don't put words in a dead man's mouth.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
It's calling your wallet.
Abigail Disney (daughter of Roy E. & grandaughter of Roy O. Disney ) tells the truth of things on Twitter.
Quoted below referencing Bob Iger's "retirement" and this article:
Disney CEO Bob Chapek’s Annual Pay Tops $32M in Fiscal 2021, Bob Iger Makes Nearly $46M in Final Year
The Magic Kingdom disclosed the compensation for its top executives for its latest fiscal year.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
"A little info buried in the piece: [Iger's $46 million] doesn’t include Iger’s end-of-contract stock grant, which was awarded to him on Dec. 31, and which was worth nine figures"
NINE figures! That's a lotta Dole Whips!
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
wait.. nine figures as in above 100mil?Abigail Disney (daughter of Roy E. & grandaughter of Roy O. Disney ) tells the truth of things on Twitter.
Quoted below referencing Bob Iger's "retirement" and this article:
Disney CEO Bob Chapek’s Annual Pay Tops $32M in Fiscal 2021, Bob Iger Makes Nearly $46M in Final Year
The Magic Kingdom disclosed the compensation for its top executives for its latest fiscal year.
"A little info buried in the piece: [Iger's $46 million] doesn’t include Iger’s end-of-contract stock grant, which was awarded to him on Dec. 31, and which was worth nine figures"
NINE figures! That's a lotta Dole Whips!
Maybe just a cool 100 mill....
And THAT is why I say the current price-gauging of guests is DESPICABLE.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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EVERY corporation does this. Sing "tell me lies, tell me sweet Corporate lies" 