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Captain Chaos

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Perhaps you shouldn't act like you're somehow better than anyone else, when you do the same things.

Funny, is all. You're just as bad as the "classless" "numbskulls" you're speaking out against.

I am not saying I am better than anyone else... You apparently think you are though.... When someone disagrees with you right away, you call TROLL... I didn't know the Supreme Internet Master Control program annointed you TROLL PATROL...

With that, FOX, again, welcome...
 

imagineer boy

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Or did I just strike a nerve??? and yes, it appears to me that there are many members here who are jealous of those who do get information.. Why?? i dunno.. maybe their lives are empty... or maybe they wish they had positions in the Disney company, raking in the huge salaries that the people who run the parks make instead of flipping burgers...

I'd run Disney for free.
 

Tigger1988

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I am not saying I am better than anyone else... You apparently think you are though.... When someone disagrees with you right away, you call TROLL... I didn't know the Supreme Internet Master Control program annointed you TROLL PATROL...

With that, FOX, again, welcome...

I pointed out two (obvious) trolls, that appears to be all you have against me.

Whatever, keep on berating people for calling people names, all while calling them names. :wave:
 

jakeman

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Long time Disney fan and follower of this site, first time post.

I decided to join to give a little more insight of what Disney May have up their sleeve. A friend of mine is a lawyer in the imagineering board at DL.

I recently visited the world 8/7-8/14. While down there I heard some interesting tid bits, some spoken here before, some not. These all were confirmed by a couple of cast members who have worked at the world for at least 8+ years, also these rumors were also confirmed by my friend but with unspecific dates.

Would love to hear thoughts. Hopefully I am not reiterating what others may have also stated.

#1 Captain EO is going to stay

#2 JII is going to be re-worked similar to the origional ride.. I know dont even say it people but this one I specifically asked my friend and he says their is heavy truth in this.

#3 The new star tours was tested in the seasons pavilion in the old body wars ride...

#4 Expedition Everest is to close sometime in January and they are going to do a lengthy refurb (I am hearing 6 months) to take off the face of the mountain to legitimately fix the Yetti. Also confirmed by my friend.

#5 I to am hearing rumors about a Villians Park sometime around 2020.

#6 All Operations and Maintenance to be centrally located at WDW for parks around the world including DL.

#7 Confirmed that HQ is truely going to be moving from DL to WDW.. The reason is Disney is implementing their "1 park" philosophy and from what I am hearing WDW is the most suitable choice as is it the most recognized worldwide and gives a lot of chance to experiment with things.

#8 New Pixar/Disney Movie-- we all know how Lassater loves trains like Walt, some may even know he has plans to also build a train in his backyard. In a recent trip pixar artists and such were at wdw and they were in and out of the trains here taking sketches, etc. I learned of this on the magic behind our steam engines tour from a couple of cast members that pixar is working on a train movie.

#9 carousel of progress will eventually be moving to the Smithsonian as a working attraction, date unknown.

#10 WDW imagineers, studying technology of Japan and close to deal to bring the technology to the us parks. Specifically Adventures Winnie the Pooh and how every time you ride it, it will be more interactive and a different ride.


On other notes:

#1 I heard Epcot almost filed bankruptcy in 2007.. not sure how true this is, can anyone comment?

#2 the launching system at epcot for fireworks does not work on an incendiary type system and is patented, which is why they can do illuminations rain or shine if they want to, yet they do not share this tech with the other parks??

#3 Seven seas lagoon not only shut down due to expensive maintenance but also due to severe foundation problems where water was leaking though into cast members locker area. Sorry I meant to say 20k leagues under the sea.. relax people


Now look as you will learn, I will not post due to speculation I will report when I hear confirmations from credible sources.

Take these in stride. But I will assure you nah-sayers that they are confirmed, I cannot give you specific dates on most but I know within the next 5-7 years all will be complete.

:D
Thanks for the info, fox. Welcome to the boards!
 

JustInTime

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I pointed out two (obvious) trolls, that appears to be all you have against me.

Whatever, keep on berating people for calling people names, all while calling them names. :wave:

Calling people trolls in return, is being a troll yourself. Just post happy thoughts and leave the weeding to our mods. That is their place and they do a great job keeping everything up for us Disney fans. Either way the behavior displayed on this thread was simply ugly and needs to stop so everyone can enjoy themselves. I have enjoyed many of your posts and most of everyone elses that has posted on this topic. So lets get back to Disney, please! :sohappy:
 

Lee

Adventurer
Time out from the insulting of other posters.
In case anyone is still interested...
#1 Captain EO is going to stay
For a while, yes. Not forever.

#2 JII is going to be re-worked similar to the origional ride.. I know dont even say it people but this one I specifically asked my friend and he says their is heavy truth in this.
Yes, JII will be re-...um...Imagined. Not similar to the original, though. Time frame unknown.

#3 The new star tours was tested in the seasons pavilion in the old body wars ride...
Yes. Tested there and other places. Posted about here for a couple years.

#4 Expedition Everest is to close sometime in January and they are going to do a lengthy refurb (I am hearing 6 months) to take off the face of the mountain to legitimately fix the Yetti. Also confirmed by my friend.
Yes it will be getting a refurb. January is not at all a set date, to my knowledge. And no...no part of the exterior of the mountain will have to be removed.

#5 I to am hearing rumors about a Villians Park sometime around 2020.
Absolutely, positively not.

#6 All Operations and Maintenance to be centrally located at WDW for parks around the world including DL.
Nope. One Disney is powerful, but no. Each resort will continue to have it's Ops based on their own property.

#7 Confirmed that HQ is truely going to be moving from DL to WDW.. The reason is Disney is implementing their "1 park" philosophy and from what I am hearing WDW is the most suitable choice as is it the most recognized worldwide and gives a lot of chance to experiment with things.
Not sure what HQ means. See answer above. Al Weiss will continue to operate as President of Worldwide Operations from Orlando. No other management is scheduled to relocate.

#8 New Pixar/Disney Movie-- we all know how Lassater loves trains like Walt, some may even know he has plans to also build a train in his backyard. In a recent trip pixar artists and such were at wdw and they were in and out of the trains here taking sketches, etc. I learned of this on the magic behind our steam engines tour from a couple of cast members that pixar is working on a train movie.
Easily the most possible item on the list. Haven't heard about it.

#9 carousel of progress will eventually be moving to the Smithsonian as a working attraction, date unknown.
No.

#10 WDW imagineers, studying technology of Japan and close to deal to bring the technology to the us parks. Specifically Adventures Winnie the Pooh and how every time you ride it, it will be more interactive and a different ride.
No. No deals necessary. Disney already owns all the tech involved. The only thing in Japan that would nead a "deal" to get is the actual attractions, several of which are Tokyo exclusives for a few years.


On other notes:

#1 I heard Epcot almost filed bankruptcy in 2007.. not sure how true this is, can anyone comment?
No. Not even remotely possible. Kinda funny, actually.

#2 the launching system at epcot for fireworks does not work on an incendiary type system and is patented, which is why they can do illuminations rain or shine if they want to, yet they do not share this tech with the other parks??You mean the air-launched shells? Only a couple of those are used in Illuminations, the rest are traditional fireworks, I believe.

#3 Seven seas lagoon not only shut down due to expensive maintenance but also due to severe foundation problems where water was leaking though into cast members locker area. Sorry I meant to say 20k leagues under the sea.. relax people
Nah. It all came down to money. There were some minor leaks, but nothing that couldn't have been fixed. File that one with the Horizons sinkhole.
 

jakeman

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Seems like a perfectly reasonable mix of rumors.

Thanks Lee for chiming in on those.

And thanks again to the OP.

Looks like not as much salt was needed on these as originally thought.
 

imagineer boy

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I would not allow someone to run the company for free. Nor should any stockholder. People with no stake do not have the best interest of the company at heart.

So? All I'm saying is that I'd run the company because of my passion, not for money.
 

Tigger1988

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Looks like not as much salt was needed on these as originally thought.

What? he debunked almost everything on the list, most of what was true was already known (such as Star Tours testing going on at WoL).

Thanks for clearing things up Lee!
 

Tom

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Fox: Welcome to WDWMagic. I won't be so quick to judge you and call you a troll, because it appears that you're putting forth effort to discuss rather than to just hit-and-run, in order to stir up pooh (like a real troll). And that's pretty big of me because I'm a very judgmental person! :lol:

I will participate in your discussion, as you've requested. EDIT: Lee posted while I was still typing. I swear I didn't copy any of his post!

#1 Captain EO is going to stay

This one's hard to disprove unless qualified with the word "forever" or words "until X date". I'm sure it's going to stay....for a while. But hopefully until they can think of something worthy for that pavilion.


#2 JII is going to be re-worked similar to the origional ride.. I know dont even say it people but this one I specifically asked my friend and he says their is heavy truth in this.

I've heard this rumor too - probably on this board. I can only hope it holds some truth.

#3 The new star tours was tested in the seasons pavilion in the old body wars ride...

Definitely not unlikely.


#4 Expedition Everest is to close sometime in January and they are going to do a lengthy refurb (I am hearing 6 months) to take off the face of the mountain to legitimately fix the Yetti. Also confirmed by my friend.

As you've admitted yourself in follow-up posts, this one is probably baloney! I think your source on this is less credible than the lawyer in CA. Most (not all) CMs are notorious for inventing their own ideas and providing bad information. It's been discussed in other threads that they Yeti can be accessed from within - specifically via a shaft that bottoms out near the garage door on the rear of the "mountain".


#5 I to am hearing rumors about a Villians Park sometime around 2020.

About as blue sky as it gets right now. This rumor has been going around for years. While a 5th gate would be cool, they have a LONG way to go in the current parks first (AK, DHS). I'd be OK if they continue to develop current parks forever, rather than get another park void of D & E attractions.

#6 All Operations and Maintenance to be centrally located at WDW for parks around the world including DL.

Um. I'm pretty sure it would not be economical (or handy) for the maintenance department for DL to work out of Orlando. They already use Central Shops at WDW to fabricate things for other parks (I was taking the Backstage Magic Tour when they were making the parking lot trams for TDL years ago), so that would be more likely. Ongoing maintenance will work locally in all cases.

#7 Confirmed that HQ is truely going to be moving from DL to WDW.. The reason is Disney is implementing their "1 park" philosophy and from what I am hearing WDW is the most suitable choice as is it the most recognized worldwide and gives a lot of chance to experiment with things.

I've never heard of this "1 Park" concept, and can't quite get a handle on what your sources think it might be. One of Walt's biggest philosophies was for the company to "never repeat itself". What you're describing would be a step in the wrong direction.

#8 New Pixar/Disney Movie-- we all know how Lassater loves trains like Walt, some may even know he has plans to also build a train in his backyard. In a recent trip pixar artists and such were at wdw and they were in and out of the trains here taking sketches, etc. I learned of this on the magic behind our steam engines tour from a couple of cast members that pixar is working on a train movie.

A train movie would be cool. The train engineers at WDW are quite fanciful in their thinking and stories though - especially the ones who lead the Steam Train tours. :lol:

#9 carousel of progress will eventually be moving to the Smithsonian as a working attraction, date unknown.

Probably not while the parks are still open and operational. I'm guessing this one came from one of the "CM" sources, as it sounds like more baloney.

#10 WDW imagineers, studying technology of Japan and close to deal to bring the technology to the us parks. Specifically Adventures Winnie the Pooh and how every time you ride it, it will be more interactive and a different ride.

The Walt Disney Company owns everything Disney, including all technology and ideas developed by Imagineers. There are no deals to be made within the company. But I'm sure it's true that they're planning to USE technology at WDW that they've implemented in other parks.


#1 I heard Epcot almost filed bankruptcy in 2007.. not sure how true this is, can anyone comment?

I'll comment: baloney. Whoever told you this was using inappropriate terminology, or there was a miscommunication. Epcot isn't a company. It's operated by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts LLC, which is wholly owned and operated by the Walt Disney Company. As far as I know, there is no Epcot LLC, which means one theme park can't file bankruptcy. It's possible that Epcot's annual profits were in the red in 2007, but still unlikely.

#2 the launching system at epcot for fireworks does not work on an incendiary type system and is patented, which is why they can do illuminations rain or shine if they want to, yet they do not share this tech with the other parks??

Are you referring to the ALF launch system? If so, I'm positive that they use it elsewhere within the company (I can't cite sources right now). And I think it's only used at the beginning of Illuminations, but I could be wrong.

#3 20K lagoon not only shut down due to expensive maintenance but also due to severe foundation problems where water was leaking though into cast members locker area.

A few of many reasons it shut down.

Now look as you will learn, I will not post due to speculation I will report when I hear confirmations from credible sources.

Not exactly true, since you yourself admitted that your CM sources may not be the most credible in the world :p

Take these in stride. But I will assure you nah-sayers that they are confirmed, I cannot give you specific dates on most but I know within the next 5-7 years all will be complete.

2020 isn't within 5-7 years.
 

jt04

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I'll only post in this thread once. Funny how a griizz never posts in a fox thread.


And for pixar it will be planes not trains.


Now I'm outta here before I catch whatever it is grizz is spreading.
 

TP2000

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Time out from the insulting of other posters.
In case anyone is still interested...

Lee, thank you for bringing some much needed sanity to this discussion by disproving or straightening out nearly every item on the list. :wave:

The OP never did address my questions and comments regarding the wild inaccuracies and/or outright untruths regarding the management structure of Disney Parks, Anaheim, Orlando, Glendale and Burbank, but I'll let it go and assume the OP simply doesn't know.

Regarding this one in particular, however...

#2 the launching system at epcot for fireworks does not work on an incendiary type system and is patented, which is why they can do illuminations rain or shine if they want to, yet they do not share this tech with the other parks??

The air launched fireworks were first used in Reflections of Earth in 1999.

But Disney went ahead and perfected and enlarged the system for use at Disneyland in order to receive more smog credits from the Southern California Air Quality Management District (AQMD). Early in the decade Disneyland installed a full setup using the air launch tubes in multiple launch locations around the park, and have been using them for years. Since the system emits far fewer pollutants than traditionally launched fireworks, AQMD gave the go-ahead for Disneyland to perform fireworks many more nights per year than they had with their orginal smog credits. (They also were banking on credits from switching the Submarines from diesel to electric in '07, and converting the Mark Twain and Disneyland Railroad to biodiesel in '09).

Disneyland is the only park currently using the air-launch system for their entire fireworks performance each night. The WDW parks use the system when it suits the show or element needed, but since WDW and Orlando has no need to worry about smog and has no powerful government agency like the AQMD breathing down their necks, WDW could light piles of tires on fire each night if they wanted to. :lol:

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