Is this a new photo of Pandora? If so I haven't seen it...it looks cool!
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Is this a new photo of Pandora? If so I haven't seen it...it looks cool!
Suchomimus
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To answer your question; yes, this is a relatively new C.A (concept art) from last month. I also agree with you and I say, Let It Grow!
Is this a new photo of Pandora? If so I haven't seen it...it looks cool!
Sorry, that joke's becoming the We Are Number One of 2017.
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Ah they had it in USA Today ....todayTo answer your question; yes, this is a relatively new C.A (concept art) from last month. I also agree with you and I say, Let It Grow!
Suchomimus
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Which one; We Are Number One or Let It Grow?Ah they had it in USA Today ....today
No the Avatar Pic haha
http://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...rld-disneyland-new-attractions-2017/96008966/
TheOriginalTiki
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So the more I think about it, the more accepting and actually encouraging I am about "Star Wars Land" being the official name. The parks are making a MASSIVE investment with it and I think the world of Star Wars is as iconic as fairtales, adventure serials, westerns, and science fiction. It only seems fitting at this point that a project this important have an official "Land" seal on it.
I mean, look at Cars Land. There was a time when I was one of the internet's harshest critics against that name...Now after visiting the parks with its presence I honestly can't imagine calling it "Radiator Springs"
I mean, look at Cars Land. There was a time when I was one of the internet's harshest critics against that name...Now after visiting the parks with its presence I honestly can't imagine calling it "Radiator Springs"
I prefer what they did with Avatar and named it Pandora -- I was hoping they would do that for Disneyland at least, but the name Star Wars Land has grown on me.So the more I think about it, the more accepting and actually encouraging I am about "Star Wars Land" being the official name. The parks are making a MASSIVE investment with it and I think the world of Star Wars is as iconic as fairtales, adventure serials, westerns, and science fiction. It only seems fitting at this point that a project this important have an official "Land" seal on it.
I mean, look at Cars Land. There was a time when I was one of the internet's harshest critics against that name...Now after visiting the parks with its presence I honestly can't imagine calling it "Radiator Springs"
Also how did you get those emojis on here lol
Suchomimus
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I am looking forward to this!
Suchomimus
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TheOriginalTiki
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Haha just copy and pasted it from a Facebook conversation
Yea at this point I've gotten so used to calling it "Star Wars Land" that calling it something else would feel rather foreign to me. People ask me about it all the time when I'm working the Disneyland model at the museum and even just the average museum guest already has it ingrained as "Star Wars Land" in their heads at this point. I'd be fine with "Star Wars Galaxy", but as I said I think it's important to stick to the "Land" tradition for a project this big.I think there's a big disconnect between Star Wars and Avatar. For Avatar, the thing most people instantly remember about that film is the location itself in Pandora, so naturally it makes sense to call the land Pandora. Not to mention the thematic motifs of the park it's based in names all its lands after countries and locations, so if they were to go with the dreaded "Avatar Land" name it would throw off that whole tradition in Animal Kingdom.
That's kind of the same way I feel about Star Wars Land at Disneyland. Each of the major "lands" are just that...Lands. Critter Country and New Orleans Square are essentially expansions to Frontierland while Toon Town directly connects to Fantasyland. This is the first major land they've built since park opening that completely stands on its own...Not to mention the INSANE amount of real estate they're using to develop it.
Plus I think the name "Star Wars" is just so much more instantly recognizable than Avatar. I would think a good chunk of fandom still instantly thinks of "The Last Airbender" when they hear that word
Star Wars on the other hand is a globally beloved franchise. Just put that logo at the start of the land and EVERYONE including foreign tourists who don't speak a lick of English would know what they're getting into. That's why I honestly think it'd be a mistake to just name this new land after whatever the name of the planet it's set on is going to be. That approach would work great in Animal Kingdom as it's already their tradition when naming areas...Disneyland I think thrives in its simplicity.
Lol there are some threads in the Disneyland forum that are not too pleased with the addition of a singular IP as a whole land in Disneyland...I am curious as a long-time Disneyland traveler what your opinion on that is?Haha just copy and pasted it from a Facebook conversation
I think there's a big disconnect between Star Wars and Avatar. For Avatar, the thing most people instantly remember about that film is the location itself in Pandora, so naturally it makes sense to call the land Pandora. Not to mention the thematic motifs of the park it's based in names all its lands after countries and locations, so if they were to go with the dreaded "Avatar Land" name it would throw off that whole tradition in Animal Kingdom.
That's kind of the same way I feel about Star Wars Land at Disneyland. Each of the major "lands" are just that...Lands. Critter Country and New Orleans Square are essentially expansions to Frontierland while Toon Town directly connects to Fantasyland. This is the first major land they've built since park opening that completely stands on its own...Not to mention the INSANE amount of real estate they're using to develop it.
Plus I think the name "Star Wars" is just so much more instantly recognizable than Avatar. I would think a good chunk of fandom still instantly thinks of "The Last Airbender" when they hear that word
That's why I honestly think it'd be a mistake to just name this new land after whatever the name of the planet it's set on is going to be. That approach would work great in Animal Kingdom as it's already their tradition when naming areas...Disneyland I think thrives in its simplicity.
Personally, I've only been to DL twice ('12 '13) but while I can see some being against it based on Disneyland's history...I can't see turning down potentially two E-tickets. I mean WDW hasn't gotten an E-ticket since 2006...DL fans need to count their blessings
I do agree that from a marketing standpoint -- calling it Star Wars Land will get the causal theme park goer in the door much easier than say naming it "The Outer Rim" or something like that.
If I had a most anticipated film list for 2017 -- Thor: Ragnarok is up there with Episode 8 and Dunkirk. Thor might not be the best movie...but I am really interested in how they will blend in more mythological Thor with Planet Hulk and Dr. Strange (and lead into Infinity War with Thanos)
TheOriginalTiki
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Lol there are some threads in the Disneyland forum that are not too pleased with the addition of a singular IP as a whole land in Disneyland...I am curious as a long-time Disneyland traveler what your opinion on that is?
Personally, I've only been to DL twice ('12 '13) but while I can see some being against it based on Disneyland's history...I can't see turning down potentially two E-tickets. I mean WDW hasn't gotten an E-ticket since 2006...DL fans need to count their blessings
I do agree that from a marketing standpoint -- calling it Star Wars Land will get the causal theme park goer in the door much easier than say naming it "The Outer Rim" or something like that.
I think Walt Disney would have loved and embraced Star Wars had he lived to see it...Maybe even made a play to purchase the rights from Lucas DECADES before that actually happened. In that respect I'm fine with it. I generally go against the grain of what typical Disneyland fandom thinks. I have virtually ZERO problems with the Tower of Terror makeover for example...when most of the fandom thinks it's going to be the worst thing that's ever opened at the resort.
Not to mention, I think one of the KEY things that makes Star Wars great and beloved is also the mission statement of Disneyland...It blends elements of "yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy". It's a fantasy story set in a sci-fi setting and also taking place "a long time ago..." Tell me that doesn't just SCREAM Disneyland when I say it like that.
Would I have liked to have seen that area go to something more original like the unbuilt Discovery Bay concept (going back to the theme of this project!)...Yea sure, but that ship sailed A LONG time ago and if something is going to go into that space, I think Star Wars is as fitting as anything given how much impacts our culture.
Plus I'm all for ANYTHING that gets the ball rolling on a real Tomorrowland makeover. Seasons of the Force is an absolute MESS right now. I loved Hyperspace Mountain the first time I rode it but now am just over it and want the 2005 version back. Ironically perhaps the biggest thing I'm looking forward to with SWL isn't the land itself (which I'm sure will be a crowd control nightmare for years to come
) but more how it'll affect the rest of the park. I can't wait for the railroad to come back, I can't wait for them to actually pay attention to Tomorrowland as a concept again, and it's going to be utterly SURREAL being able to walk along the Rivers of America to Critter Country and Fantasyland. Even if crowd control in the actual attractions is a nightmare, I think the land will actually reduce the traffic in the park generally speaking since it ties three of the other lands into its layout, which should really help out with foot traffic.
Disneyland is a MISERABLE place to be right now when it's super crowded because of the lack of railroad and connecting pathways. I'm really excited for that all to change!
The new railroad spur looks amazing!I think Walt Disney would have loved and embraced Star Wars had he lived to see it...Maybe even made a play to purchase the rights from Lucas DECADES before that actually happened. In that respect I'm fine with it. I generally go against the grain of what typical Disneyland fandom thinks. I have virtually ZERO problems with the Tower of Terror makeover for example...when most of the fandom thinks it's going to be the worst thing that's ever opened at the resort.
Not to mention, I think one of the KEY things that makes Star Wars great and beloved is also the mission statement of Disneyland...It blends elements of "yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy". It's a fantasy story set in a sci-fi setting and also taking place "a long time ago..." Tell me that doesn't just SCREAM Disneyland when I say it like that.
Would I have liked to have seen that area go to something more original like the unbuilt Discovery Bay concept (going back to the theme of this project!)...Yea sure, but that ship sailed A LONG time ago and if something is going to go into that space, I think Star Wars is as fitting as anything given how much impacts our culture.
Plus I'm all for ANYTHING that gets the ball rolling on a real Tomorrowland makeover. Seasons of the Force is an absolute MESS right now. I loved Hyperspace Mountain the first time I rode it but now am just over it and want the 2005 version back. Ironically perhaps the biggest thing I'm looking forward to with SWL isn't the land itself (which I'm sure will be a crowd control nightmare for years to come
I can't wait for the railroad to come back, I can't wait for them to actually pay attention to Tomorrowland as a concept again, and it's going to be utterly SURREAL being able to walk along the Rivers of America to Critter Country and Fantasyland. Even if crowd control in the actual attractions is a nightmare, I think the land will actually reduce the traffic in the park generally speaking since it ties three of the other lands into its layout, which should really help out with foot traffic.
Disneyland is a MISERABLE place to be right now when it's super crowded because of the lack of railroad and connecting pathways. I'm really excited for that all to change!
And that yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy does definitely resonate with what Star Wars Land is all about. And it will be crowded for sure, but that may open up some of the more crowded spots of today.
TheOriginalTiki
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The new railroad spur looks amazing!
And that yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy does definitely resonate with what Star Wars Land is all about. And it will be crowded for sure, but that may open up some of the more crowded spots of today.
It's going to be a give-and-take with the crowds for sure. For example since Critter Country directly connects to it I think that might make the walk-on queues of Winnie the Pooh a thing of the past...But at the same time since places like New Orleans Square and Adventureland don't directly connect to it I can actually see those areas getting slightly less foot traffic when spread out around the park and new land. And trust me...For those areas in particular even "slightly less" would be a MASSIVE improvement.
DinoInstitute
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It looks like phone emojis work now!
Edit: never mind, they only showed up in the text box but not in the post
Suchomimus
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Well yes and no. Yes, it is true that about what you said about the Star Wars being fantasy, a long time ago (yesterday), and in a futuristic setting (tomorrow), but at the same time it's a stretch considering that this the first time that an all IP zone has been built in Disneyland California.Not to mention, I think one of the KEY things that makes Star Wars great and beloved is also the mission statement of Disneyland...It blends elements of "yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy". It's a fantasy story set in a sci-fi setting and also taking place "a long time ago..." Tell me that doesn't just SCREAM Disneyland when I say it like that.
That's been the biggest complaint that I've seen about it which is why I think it's an interesting talking point!
AdventurerEllie
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I got my pint, how about you?
This is such a delayed response, but I feel like I have to say that this is the best Ben & Jerry's flavour out there! Nice pick