In Defense of the Animal Kingdom...

PhilosophyMagic

New Member
pisco said:
I'm sure once I have the chance to ride IJA I won't enjoy Dinosuar as much as I do now.

Yeah, I used to think Dinosaur was WONDERFUL, until I went on Indy at DL. Now Dinosaur is LAUGHABLE in comparison.

I agree with what many people were saying about Everest. AK definately lacks attractions now, but if Everest is ANYTHING like what it is looking like it will be, it is likely to completely alter AK's attraction roster, just like MGM was so much improved when ToT was added. Everest could become the "reason to visit AK" making all the other attractions a superb collection of secondary time-passers once in the park. (Yes, I know there are a lot of other good attractions at MGM that stand on their own, but you get the analogy.) Plus, once AK has this much-improved collection of attractions, the loads of themeing that already exist in the park will make a visit to AK possibly a comparably good experience with a day at any of the other parks. A day at AK might very well beat out a day at MGM. Well, maybe.
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
don't mind AK, just not my cup o tea really.

although i can't wait to go on EE.

i want to be the first non-CM AP to go on it during passholder previews(if they have them)
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
I dont see how anyone could say that AK is incomplete when you have MGM hanging out there with nothing to do. I like MGM but i speng an hour on RnRC then i head over to star tours, then muppets 3d. LMAX is cool but once is enough, same with INDY. The backlot tour is a joke now as well as the animation tour. After EE is built in AK, Mgm really needs the most help. Im shocked to find out that people pay the park ticket for just that park alone, i would be completely let down if that were me.
 

Brad

New Member
Rinxman said:
A lot of people aren't really interested in animals so they only go to AK for the thrills. But in defense of the AK and to those who think it's a zoo, have you ever seen a zoo that provides such natural habitats for its animals? Only the actual savanna can match it. Nothing else in the world can compare to the care and realism Disney put into the park. NAHTAZU!!!

Check out the San Diego Wild Animal Park.
 

BRER STITCH

Well-Known Member
NJDVCMembers said:
We know that there are a lot of people who are unhappy with Disney’s Animal Kingdom, and we do believe “to each their own.” But we have to come to the defense of this much maligned corner of the world. We believe that there are a lot of people who don’t get it! The Animal Kingdom doesn’t have to be a half-day park and truth-be-told, it isn’t.
We recently stopped in the oasis to take in a few animals and to catch a few with our camcorder. When we returned home we were amazed by what we saw. As the video ran we counted at least 38 people running right past the animal displays.

Who exactly is this "WE" you speak for in your post?

Are you part of a secret society for the promotion of not very well thought out animal based theme parks?

:lookaroun
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
bhg469 said:
I dont see how anyone could say that AK is incomplete when you have MGM hanging out there with nothing to do. I like MGM but i speng an hour on RnRC then i head over to star tours, then muppets 3d. LMAX is cool but once is enough, same with INDY. The backlot tour is a joke now as well as the animation tour. After EE is built in AK, Mgm really needs the most help. Im shocked to find out that people pay the park ticket for just that park alone, i would be completely let down if that were me.
i think you forgot ToT. lol

i get what you are saying and yes, Indy is a 1 time show and i havent seen (in person) LMAX but it is as well, i would say ST is a 1 timer right now as well...... so that leaves RnRC and TOT for me.

oh, once on GMR as well. you could do sounds dangerous over and over :rolleyes:
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
I dont like animal kingdom because. 1. I can see a zoo up here whenever I want. 2. Not enough rides to keep me in the park. 3. Everything seems so far from eachother I get tired of not seeing anything.
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
jmaxwell007 said:
i think you forgot ToT. lol

i get what you are saying and yes, Indy is a 1 time show and i havent seen (in person) LMAX but it is as well, i would say ST is a 1 timer right now as well...... so that leaves RnRC and TOT for me.

oh, once on GMR as well. you could do sounds dangerous over and over :rolleyes:

Yeah Word! Drew carey like a mo fo! :D....actually i havent like that ride since they put in the new headphones. i dont know when they changed but sounds dangerous used to sound much better
 

RedBaron

Active Member
I have not been to AK yet, but look forward to seeing it. I love animals and it sounds like it is a great park. For me, MGM is not a full day park.
 

Mystic

Well-Known Member
Personally I love AK. It's next in line after MK for me. We always hit this park first on our trips and spend the day enjoying it. The first year we even did the behind the scenes tour of this park. If you really want to get a good appreciation for AK, I highly recommend taking this half day tour. We got to go behind the scenes to the animal barns and the vet hospital. They had one of the white rhinos backstage and they let us pet it. How many people can say they've gotten to pet a white rhino? Not only that, I fell in love with Giraffes because of that tour. They had just gotten in a young giraffe and had him backstage. We were not 10 feet away from it as the CM fed it carrots. We learned alot about the AK and the animals and how the park works and how the animals are cared for. Truly and eye opening experience and one that's well worth the money.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
This past trip (April 2005) my kids had the best time at AK. We took it a bit slower, stopped and smelled the roses, and it worked out. In the past we just tried to do it too quickly and didn't appreciate the rest of it. Its more than the "2 hour park" and pleases animal-lovers, like my kids. There is lots to uncover at AK though its camofluaged. There are plenty of chances for meaningful human interaction with the CMs who play the role of "guides" mostly through this park.
 

barnum42

New Member
righttrack said:
We took it a bit slower, stopped and smelled the roses, and it worked out. In the past we just tried to do it too quickly and didn't appreciate the rest of it... There is lots to uncover at AK though its camofluaged.
You hit the nail on the head. Whilst all the parks are best taken at a steady pace, it's even more the case with Animal Kingdom.
 

zjer

Active Member
Brad said:
Check out the San Diego Wild Animal Park.

One of the best "animal parks" I've ever seen. If you're going for the animals, it can't be beaten.





Animal Kingdom is actually my second favorite park. (After EPCOT)
 

WDWCP

New Member
NJDVCMembers said:
We know that there are a lot of people who are unhappy with Disney’s Animal Kingdom, and we do believe “to each their own.” But we have to come to the defense of this much maligned corner of the world. We believe that there are a lot of people who don’t get it! The Animal Kingdom doesn’t have to be a half-day park and truth-be-told, it isn’t.


We recently stopped in the oasis to take in a few animals and to catch a few with our camcorder. When we returned home we were amazed by what we saw. As the video ran we counted at least 38 people running right past the animal displays. 38 out of 41 to be exact, in about a 4 minute time frame. You could even hear a few folks saying things like “I’ve seen them on tv” or “we’ve got zoos at home.” Sure they were there for the big rides and attractions, but they seemed to forget the purpose of the park. To let you interact and appreciate the other inhabitants of this planet... the animals. So if your one of those folks who only come through for the main attractions, fine... enjoy! But please don’t knock it until you really experience it. If you have experienced it and still don't appreciate it, that's your right too.

Let us not forget that at the end of the day, it's about the money. It doesn't matter what the original purpose of any particular park or attaction is. If the result is that people are unhappy and they don't spend their money, then the park is a failure.

Personally, I love DAK and could spend almost an entire day just finding all the animal carvings on the Tree of Life.

Money talks regardless of if people "Get it" or not. The Walk Disney Company is in business to make money. I think we could make a case that EVERYTHING it does weather it be in a movie they make, or in the details of park attractions, is all about making money. Even the things that appear as if they did it out of the kindness of their hearts. If you do something really special, people will be happy. Happy people spend more money.

I don't want to start the debate on if this is what Walt would have wanted for his "empire", but since Disney is a publically held company, it has to perform for it's shareholders who want short-term profits. It's a never ending battle...
 

WDWCP

New Member
dave2822 said:
In our world of immediate gratification and our "now now!" mentaility, I think we forget sometimes that AK is only 7 years young. Think back to where MK, EPCOT, and MGM were at this point in their respective lifespans (well, a little less so for MK), and you will find that we just need to give Animal Kingdom time.

I find it funny how casual people are about EE. We take it for granted as a "nice addition," or a "step in the right direction but AK still needs more." Frankly, I believe this will be one of Disney's best ever and am thrilled about it's arrival. Animal Kingdom isn't perfect true, it has it's limitations, I still visit it the least out of the four, but give it a chance. People have been trying to close this park before it opened.

Very well said! Let's not forget that a big chunk of the past 7 years has seen one of the worst tourist declines in history because of the 9-11 aftermath. Park attendance and therefore revenues, are just now really starting to return and increase. I'm sure that there has been a lot of corporate desire to do more with DAK, but the money and current business climate just hasn't justified the investments...

If it weren't for 9-11, DAK might have been quite different by now. We'll never know...
 

polarboi

Member
I think the key, as was mentioned earlier, is that everyone is different, and we all go to WDW with different expectations, schedules, and ideas about what we want out of our vacation.

The problem AK has is similar to the problem WDW has for the uninitiated. How many times have you heard someone dismiss the entirety of WDW because it's "too expensive" or say that they went and couldn't find enough to do? Often it turns out that: a) they overlooked major sections of the parks (such as thinking WDW=MK) and/or b) they went with distorted expectations.

I find that people my age (20-somethings) sometimes go expecting a bunch of thrill rides such as you might find at another theme park, so they completely ignore the shows, dark rides, and other attractions in their race for the thrill rides. For the most part, Disney's thrill rides don't match the intensity of major roller coasters at other parks, but that's never been the point with Disney, has it?

Disney is all about the theming and the idea of taking you into a new world with every attraction. That's what they're best at, and that's something they do well with AK. But still, not everyone enjoys wandering around gawking at architectural choices or listening to background music. That's why some people hit WS only for a couple of rides (if at all), while others could completely do without MGM's thrill rides but consider a leisurely stroll through WS to be the highlight of their trip. Point is, if you go to WS expecting it to be something other than what it is, you're going to be disappointed. Same with AK. And, as others have said, it's still a young park with much growing to do.

Plus, I don't think you can fully appreciate either WS or AK if you're in a hurry. They are hard to enjoy for someone who only has a few days in the parks and is naively trying to "see everything" on their first trip. Those people have to rush past the scenery to get to the next ride so they can ride it and rush back somewhere else before they have to leave. AK is better enjoyed when you've been before and you have time on your hands. :)

On a side note, I've never understood why some people love Indiana Jones at DL but don't think Dinosaur measures up. Dinosaur is one of my favorite rides, and I never miss it when I go. I had heard that IJ used the same ride mechanism and had gotten rave reviews, so when I visited DL last year I made sure to ride it. Honestly, I was underwhelmed. I didn't really get what the fuss was all about. It's a fun ride, but I still prefer Dinosaur.

Maybe I'm just weird. :cool:

-p.b.
 

DisneyFreak529

New Member
As for it not being a full day park, I don't think I've spent an entire day in one park. I've always been a hopper. We usually go to three a day.

I love Animal Kingdom, I can't spend a day there. Maybe the morning & some of the afternoon but not a day. As much as I love it there isn't enough to do.

I dont see how anyone could say that AK is incomplete when you have MGM hanging out there with nothing to do

Wow, you really think that MGM is just hanging out??
What about Fantasmic?
What about Rock 'n' Roller coaster?
What about Tower of Terror?
What about animation tour, backstage tour, & Indian Jones show?

I can easly spend a day in MGM, no problem!!
 

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