Politics Iger steps down...from CA Task Force

[el_super]

I have no idea. That's why I'm asking what the basis is for these claims. How can people be certain that the reports are factual when we don't know how or even IF the state, local authorities, or industry leaders are tracking where new cases are originating?

I'm not even really sure how traditional contact tracing would work on the scale of something like Walt Disney World. When you have a small town and 15 sick people say they all went to store X between 12 and 2, it seems pretty easy to trace the source back to that store. With something like Walt Disney World, where there are literally thousands of people and employees there every day, so many people would list it in their history that it seems unfair to immediately assume that is the source of infection. At the same time it would seem unwise to completely rule it out. You could do far more localized contact tracing (and admittedly this might make more sense for employees) where you can narrow down infections to a singular location. Say if suddenly there was an outbreak among Space Mountain employees, or Tomorrowland Attraction Cast Members. Somehow I would think that would require some specialized training on the part of those doing the tracing, to ask the right questions about not just employer, but specific work location as well.

As for the guests... who knows. If a tourist returns to their hometown with COVID and reports it to the health authorities, the Gwinnett/Rockdale/Newton County Health Department may only have one case linked to Walt Disney World and wouldn't be in a position to report that as an "outbreak."

 

[LastoneOn]

I have no idea. That's why I'm asking what the basis is for these claims. How can people be certain that the reports are factual when we don't know how or even IF the state, local authorities, or industry leaders are tracking where new cases are originating?

Feigned ignorance. You're better than this.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Statistically speaking it is unlikely that nobody has had covid at disney. Cms and guests alike. However due to the high profile nature of the parks an educated guess would be that any (spread) would be known. As long as protocols are followed a covid positive person might not even spread it inside the park.

Agreed. To your point, in this article, several local union representatives reported that they are satisfied with virus containment for the theme park workers they represent. I'm admittedly biased, but I found these comments more reliable than claims made by local government officials or Disney.

That said, an epidemiology professor at the Fielding School of Public Health at UCLA quoted in the article wasn't totally sold:

"She remained concerned about Disney World as a potential coronavirus hot spot. She noted that people visiting from out of state could be infected during their trip -- if not at Disney World itself then at the airport or in a taxi -- and take the virus back to their communities. Tracking such cases would be impossible.

"Just because we don't have ample evidence of it happening -- yet -- doesn't mean it's not happening," Rimoin said. "There is simply no zero-risk scenario here. When you create opportunities for large numbers of people to come together, you are providing opportunities for the virus to spread.""

 

[flutas]

I'm not even really sure how traditional contact tracing would work on the scale of something like Walt Disney World. When you have a small town and 15 sick people say they all went to store X between 12 and 2, it seems pretty easy to trace the source back to that store. With something like Walt Disney World, where there are literally thousands of people and employees there every day, so many people would list it in their history that it seems unfair to immediately assume that is the source of infection. At the same time it would seem unwise to completely rule it out. You could do far more localized contact tracing (and admittedly this might make more sense for employees) where you can narrow down infections to a singular location. Say if suddenly there was an outbreak among Space Mountain employees, or Tomorrowland Attraction Cast Members. Somehow I would think that would require some specialized training on the part of those doing the tracing, to ask the right questions about not just employer, but specific work location as well.

As for the guests... who knows. If a tourist returns to their hometown with COVID and reports it to the health authorities, the Gwinnett/Rockdale/Newton County Health Department may only have one case linked to Walt Disney World and wouldn't be in a position to report that as an "outbreak."

Maybe they can finally put that $2b+ worth of magic band tracking data to use lol

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I'm admittedly biased

Mmhmm.

 

[DrAlice]

Maybe they can finally put that $2b+ worth of magic band tracking data to use lol

I had the same thought.