If what happened to Target would happen to Disney

Voxel

President of Progress City
The whole ID theft thing made me start paying for things in cash most of the time.

It's getting wild out there with credit cards and ID theft.
Its more then credit cards. Tenn. is currently dealing with a theft of social security numbers from the State Treasury though my favorite was a few years ago when and IRS agent left their work laptop and someone stole the machine.
To makes mater scary Scientist recently broke the strongest digital encryption with the use of a microphone listening to the CPU. Working in PII make you receive how often things can be taken advantage of.
Luckily this target breach was not the worst, the best one can do is to constantly be aware and fighting it because its impossible to prevent
 

Ben_since_1971

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, it is becoming an all-too-common occurrence. I travel a lot for business so I use my credit cards a lot. I have had to get my Disney Visa card number changed 3 times due to the number getting pinched. The first two times I do not know how it happened except for perhaps a malicious server in a restaurant. The last time was due to a data breach at some company that processed a local theater ticket purchase I had made a couple years ago. I didn't think I had saved my credit card info but apparently they had it and someone got it. I will give the credit card companies their due in being diligent about this. Every time I have had a breach, their fraud department caught it.

As for it happening to Disney, I don't want to say it's a matter of time, but I would not be surprised to learn if it did happen. And yes - they are required by law to report it.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Its more then credit cards. Tenn. is currently dealing with a theft of social security numbers from the State Treasury though my favorite was a few years ago when and IRS agent left their work laptop and someone stole the machine.
To makes mater scary Scientist recently broke the strongest digital encryption with the use of a microphone listening to the CPU. Working in PII make you receive how often things can be taken advantage of.
Luckily this target breach was not the worst, the best one can do is to constantly be aware and fighting it because its impossible to prevent

I often read articles about new elaborate hacks like you mention, but the sad part is that these sort of techniques are almost never needed since there are so many simple and very common vulnerabilities that can be exploited.
 

Voxel

President of Progress City
I often read articles about new elaborate hacks like you mention, but the sad part is that these sort of techniques are almost never needed since there are so many simple and very common vulnerabilities that can be exploited.
Very true. Most credit card encryptions run between 64bit or 128 bit encryption, the government runs around 256bit encryption on their public sites. The strongest encryptions is ~4000bit encryption. But your right most of the vulnerabilities are very simple and common to break :/
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
The only thing that would be more damaging to a company then a major data breach, would be if they tried to cover it up and people eventually found out anyway.

Disney would attempt to cover it up with a confidential 'settlement' which includes a NDA and gag order. They would probably get away with it as well. The reporting laws are interesting as in many states they only need to report to law enforcement not those affected.
 

Voxel

President of Progress City
Disney would attempt to cover it up with a confidential 'settlement' which includes a NDA and gag order. They would probably get away with it as well. The reporting laws are interesting as in many states they only need to report to law enforcement not those affected.

However since the Disney Corporation is located in California and any subside has to conform to California laws on the mater, thus legally have to report thefts over a set amount. Credit theft happens, its a fact of life. 711 and Hannaford are still in business after an breach on 140 million customers in 2009, Sony is still in business after a breach, heck Microsoft and Apple are still in business and the have breaches almost every day (Microsoft live has a lot of security issue, mainly idiotic users). TJX( BJs and TJmax, Marshal, Etc) had a breach of 46 million between 2005-2007. Whether we like it or not Id/credit theft are a fact of life and will continue to be in a digital world. But people can stay on top of it by staying in communication with the bank, calling them when your on vacation/when your back/where your going. 9/10 times the banks will usually catch strange activity.
The sad fact is customer like to believe that the companies are at fault when their is a breach, usually they are not. NO amount of protection can stop a hacker who truly has the ability and knowledge. Look at the Hacks on the CIA,FBI, and Navy this year. http://www.cnbc.com/id/101069821 The navy one being a breach of Personal information. It can and will happen amongst most companies.

Good thing there's no massive integration of everybody's personal info into basic payment systems at Disney!
You mean a basic payment system where the Disney company holds your credit card/debit card information so you can make payments through out the park with out your actual card, like the system they have had in places since the 90s. Sure its a little bit more efficient now, but the same risk and idea has been there since the 90's. (if not earlier).
 

Voxel

President of Progress City
I did some research Disney was attacked and encountered a Data Breach in 2007. http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17416
Stock holders data breach of 20,000 in 2008 from a lost ta[e
UPDATE (5/31/08): The Hartford Courant reports the following figures regarding the number of Connecticut shareholders affected by the lost computer tape: 403,894 People's United Bank 33,586 John Hancock Financial 18,361 Walt Disney Co. 10,000 the remaining shareholders

Disney once again had another breach this time due to Epsilon in 2010 which effect Disney Capital one and others.
http://threatpost.com/epsilon-data-breach-expands-include-capital-one-disney-others-040411/75100

Another breach in 2007 from employee selling information
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9027340/Disney_subcontractor_caught_selling_customer_data

Thats what I found just doing High Level Search not digging deep into the topic. As I previously stated its a fact of life now and the best defense is offenses and actively beware of your system.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
I wonder how the Chase customers are handling WDW right now. Seeing that, if you used your Chase debit card at Target during the breach timeframe, Chase is limiting your cash withdrawals to $100/day and total purchase limits to $300/day.
 

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