If there was ever to be a 5th gate, what would it be?

[Walt Disney1955]

Inspired from the other thread. I'm not saying they should do this right now because there are other things that can be improved for sure. But if they did what would it be?

I've always mentioned that if they do another park it could be a Disney-themed thrill park. With lots of dark rides that are thrilling and extreme rollercoasters. But still trying to keep the theming great, if that's possible. Like say have an extreme roller coaster and call it "Simba" or stuff like that. Along those lines. You could do it with a ton of characters.

Anyways, just a crazy thought, probably would never happen and maybe it does seem a little un-Disney to do a thrill park. It would be hard to capture the "magic" in there I guess, but not if the dark rides are done properly

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

Just look at islands of adventure. The rides are great and the theming is great. It would work, but there would have to be 1 kid section. I think it should be like islands of adventure but each section would feel broader. Like a Lion king section, then a villian. But hey I'm just throwing around stuff here lol.

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

Oh and a DisneySEA park would be nice

 

[headhoncho34]

I can find extreme rollercoasters at a Six Flags Park. I would rather a 5th gate with dark rides that are thrilling but still contain great theming and immersiveness.

 

[powlessfamily4]

I can find extreme rollercoasters at a Six Flags Park. I would rather a 5th gate with dark rides that are thrilling but still contain great theming and immersiveness.

I agree ...... I admit to being a thrill ride junkie, but I would rather a 5th gate be more intense then thrill.

 

[CarlFredricksen]

I think that a 5th gate based entirely on 'thrill' (thrill to mean speed, inversions, etc.) would be suicidal. To someones point that IoA is themed great, you're right, it is. It's great! But where does it rank in annual attendance compared to Disney Parks?

My point is that Disney has devoloped the most succesful operation in the industry (theme parks that aren't entirely based on extreme thrills), so why go away from it? I think DisneySEA would be neat with a land called Atlantis. And a land called the Oil Spill

 

[fabroman]

NBC.


enough said.

or beastly kingdom....

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

I think that a 5th gate based entirely on 'thrill' (thrill to mean speed, inversions, etc.) would be suicidal. To someones point that IoA is themed great, you're right, it is. It's great! But where does it rank in annual attendance compared to Disney Parks?

My point is that Disney has devoloped the most succesful operation in the industry (theme parks that aren't entirely based on extreme thrills), so why go away from it? I think DisneySEA would be neat with a land called Atlantis. And a land called the Oil Spill

No matter about the attendance, Islands of Adventure is still a top rate park. The reason the attendance is low because at the end of the day Disney is still Disney and people are going to go to it because of it's name. If there was an islands style park in Disney with similar attractions it would have an higher attendance than with the universal name because it's disney.

 

[CarlFredricksen]

No matter about the attendance, Islands of Adventure is still a top rate park. The reason the attendance is low because at the end of the day Disney is still Disney and people are going to go to it because of it's name. If there was an islands style park in Disney with similar attractions it would have an higher attendance than with the universal name because it's disney.

While I agree that IoA is a top rate park, and the Disney name sells, you can't ignore the attendance issue. The goal at the end of the day for all amuesement park companies is to get people through their gates, and currently Disney is beating everyone in this area. So why change? Sure an IoA type park with a Disney name would surpass IoA, but why do that? They already have 4 parks 20miles away that are surpassing IoA just the way they are! Heck, it's important to note that the highest attended Disney park is MK, and DHS and EPCOT arguablly have more 'adrenilane thrill rides' similar to IoA, so if Disney built an IoA park, who is to say that it would even be the most popular Disney park??? That's why I think a balanace of attractions with incredible theming is the key to success, and a DisneySEA park would be my vote.

 

[epcotWSC]

Video Game World . Too bad Disney doesn't put out many video games.

 

[tampabrad]

The rollercoasters at IOA do not have great theming. Dragons had a great queue but lost it with the HP makeover. Hulk and HRRR queue is not much better than anything at Six Flags. Once you board the rides you end up outside with no theme at all. They are coasters just like anywhere else.

Plus, by spreading thrill rides in the different parks, they keep people on property longer.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

A waste of money. They cant properly manage what they currently have.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

I can find extreme rollercoasters at a Six Flags Park. I would rather a 5th gate with dark rides that are thrilling but still contain great theming and immersiveness.

Good point I agree entirely. Why go away from that. Dark rides are a rarity but how many people, even thrill junkies, enjoy Pirates over the Hulk. Lots, I would think.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Heck, it's important to note that the highest attended Disney park is MK, and DHS and EPCOT arguablly have more 'adrenilane thrill rides' similar to IoA, so if Disney built an IoA park, who is to say that it would even be the most popular Disney park??? That's why I think a balanace of attractions with incredible theming is the key to success, and a DisneySEA park would be my vote.

Well regardless, if they built a thrill park MK would still, and always will, be the flagship park. I don't think there are any doubts about that. This would be something different for sure, but I do agree that they might be better served keeping up the other parks in the first place.

By the way, I can see what you mean by DHS having the thrill rides on a closer level to Islands of Adventure with Tower of Terror and Aerosmith but what does Epcot have comparable in that category? Test Track is all I can think of that's even remotely close. Not like it matters, Disney doesn't rely on the thrill to get by

 

[CarlFredricksen]

By the way, I can see what you mean by DHS having the thrill rides on a closer level to Islands of Adventure with Tower of Terror and Aerosmith but what does Epcot have comparable in that category? Test Track is all I can think of that's even remotely close. Not like it matters, Disney doesn't rely on the thrill to get by

That's why I said arguably. I would say Test Track, Sum of All Thrills, MS and possibly Soarin' could be in that 'thrill' category. Regardless, I do agree they are better served spreading the thrill rides out. After all, an IoA park in Disney wouldn't cater well to the under 48inches crowd, which is a huge part of the Disney market.

 

[raven]

A Marvel park. It's been looked at.

 

[JohnLocke]

I think a 5th park should be a little heavier on thrills, but you can't really go overboard and be successful.

I've thought a Heroes vs. Villains Park would be fun. One side devoted to Heroes, the other to Villains, and perhaps the Fantasylandtype land at the back of the park being Marvel to help merge the two sections.

Have one Legendary Heroes section, with Hercules, Aladdin, Mulan, and other legendary heroes that are underused in other parks.

And the hub would be a Bald Mountain/Fantasia, Mummy-like, dark ride coaster.

 

[fabroman]

I would enjoi a Marvel park.....

 

[Epic Epcot]

A DisneySea styled park (closer to the Port Disney plan than the one in Japan), but I'd much rather see major expansions in the existing four parks.

 

[hemloc]

Video Game World . Too bad Disney doesn't put out many video games.

They already have that... It's called DISNEYQUEST:wave:!!