If Disneyland was ever somehow able to build an Epcot of their own would it be better then the existing one?
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If Disneyland built their own Epcot
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janoimagine
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I believe they had the idea and scrapped it ... search WestCOT.
Retlaw Yensid
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The Epcot park we have is not exactly the Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow that Walt imagined. I don't think Disneyland would undergo a project to try to create that EPCOT either. However, I suppose it is possible they could build a park similar to the Epcot we have with a Future World and World Showcase. And in this instance, I would say that it would be similar or perhpas better only because they could design it knowing about any flaws with the original or add things that could enhance it. It would be interesting to see if the World Showcase would be different
TP2000
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As much as I was a HUGE critic of DCA from 1999 to about 2008, I'm glad they didn't try and do the Westcot theme park they had planned in the early 1990's.
Westcot Proposal, Anaheim - Circa 1991
Epcot at WDW succeeds because of its scale and giant scope. The huge vistas and grand spectacle of it all, is what makes it work so well. You could perhaps do something with a condensed Future World and still get it to work, but the World Showcase area would become a jumbled mess if you didn't have the massive lagoon to spread it around. Epcot is really the only unique thing WDW has left. Without an Epcot, I certainly wouldn't need to visit WDW again, that's for sure.
But packing all the hits of Epcot into a Westcot park just wouldn't work. It would be too jumbled and condensed to really flow.
Westcot Proposal, Anaheim - Circa 1991
Epcot at WDW succeeds because of its scale and giant scope. The huge vistas and grand spectacle of it all, is what makes it work so well. You could perhaps do something with a condensed Future World and still get it to work, but the World Showcase area would become a jumbled mess if you didn't have the massive lagoon to spread it around. Epcot is really the only unique thing WDW has left. Without an Epcot, I certainly wouldn't need to visit WDW again, that's for sure.
But packing all the hits of Epcot into a Westcot park just wouldn't work. It would be too jumbled and condensed to really flow.
RedFurredCadet
Active Member
Pity the loss of WESTCOT for DCA. Had WESTCOT been developed, it would be a best bet for it to uniquely fit in to the Californian lifestyle - unique attractions to say the least. But for some reason, if it were put into practice, I guess the feasible option would have been to have Future World and not necessarily World Showcase. But you might as well have a much easier time applying as chicken pilot rather than making the WESTCOT idea work.
Though to have a second EPCOT kind of intrigues me... hmmm...
Though to have a second EPCOT kind of intrigues me... hmmm...
Crockett
Banned
Did you not see the concept artwork above your post? There would have been plenty of WS present. Probably more of it than FW.
But like others have mentioned, it would not have been as effective without the large lagoon space.
PyroKinesis
Active Member
We all know it would never work without a big bombastic fireworks show.
MarkTwain
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Granted.
And that's one thing we know it wouldn't have gotten.I don't think it would have turned out well... aside from just the scale issues, Disney doesn't seem too invested in the Epcot concept these days. I don't think a park solely dedicated to the future is something they would attempt again, and if it didn't I think it would be lacking the same spirit that EPCOT Center had in '82.
RedFurredCadet
Active Member
I have seen the artwork, but the solo-Future World part, i only assumed had the WESTCOT idea been put into progress by today's standards. But of course, if you compare it to the EPCOT that started it all, let's say that, you know, it's just not the same over there in California. :dazzle:
Still, if the World Showcase were planned for WESTCOT, well, I agree.
Thanks for snapping me awake, Crockett.
Communicore
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It will more likely still have Dreamfinder and Horizons.
rkelly42
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If that is the real concept are of what Westcot was supposed to look like it is nice it did not happen. Putting SSE in the middle of WS it would have been a visibility nightmare. It is nice being able to look across and see the different countries, SSE in the middle would block all those nice views.
DisneyDadof5
Member
The research I did on Westcot was that there was a ton of land that needed to be purchased. Plans, roads, etc, were all drawn up before that, along with City approval. One major issue; the people who held the land that was needed, weren't approached before the plan was already full speed ahead, and it ended up being scrapping as a park due to their unwillingness to move/sell, etc.
I'd like to believe in an alternate universe, Westcot was built.
I'd like to believe in an alternate universe, Westcot was built.
Eisner did leave his legacy before he left. Its like he knew he was going to get the boot and did his vandalism to the parks.
mp2bill
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lol
lazyboy97o
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SpaceStation Earth was going to be about 300' tall whereas Spaceship Earth is 180' tall. A similar attraction was planned. What you might be thinking of is that due to protests regarding its size (why was it so big to begin with?) SpaceStation was replaced by a spire, which would have been just a monument without an attraction.
WestCOT was bordered to the south by Katella Ave just like Disney's California Adventure.The research I did on Westcot was that there was a ton of land that needed to be purchased. Plans, roads, etc, were all drawn up before that, along with City approval. One major issue; the people who held the land that was needed, weren't approached before the plan was already full speed ahead, and it ended up being scrapping as a park due to their unwillingness to move/sell, etc.
I'd like to believe in an alternate universe, Westcot was built.
http://www.yesterland.com/westcot2.html
Mickey_777
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It's funny how the size/height of a new SSE style icon would have bothered the Disneyland faithful yet now you can see DCA's new Carthay Circle theatre from Main Street and/or in front of the castle. Not good.
lazyboy97o
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It was not the "Disneyland faithful" who were opposed to SpaceStation Earth, it was the people living in the immediate vicinity of the Disneyland Resort.