if Disney actually monitors this site then WHY, don't they seem to listen..?

Phonedave

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Media networks (along with ESPN) is still historically a higher margin business than the parks and accounts (adjusting for 1 time Star wars) almost 45% of their profit. The ESPN worries are there, but overblown.

Traditional "cable" media is dying. There are lots of worries out there on how to monitize single media streams, as opposed to bundled channel packages. Disney has payed a LOT of money for the rights to various sports packages, but consumers are dropping traditionaled bundled packages in record numbers. If Disney cannot shift to some sort of OTT distribution model for ESPN (with a monitized componenet) there will be problems. I don't doubt that they will be able to do so, they are an entertainment company after all, it is what they do, but they are going to have to do some work to get to where they need to be, especially when it comes to contractural exclusivity rights they have signed with various carriers.
 

Chef Mickey

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Traditional "cable" media is dying. There are lots of worries out there on how to monitize single media streams, as opposed to bundled channel packages. Disney has payed a LOT of money for the rights to various sports packages, but consumers are dropping traditionaled bundled packages in record numbers. If Disney cannot shift to some sort of OTT distribution model for ESPN (with a monitized componenet) there will be problems. I don't doubt that they will be able to do so, they are an entertainment company after all, it is what they do, but they are going to have to do some work to get to where they need to be, especially when it comes to contractural exclusivity rights they have signed with various carriers.
It is dying, but it's not dead and will not fall off a cliff. These things will take time and Disney/ESPN will monetize in other ways and bring you programming/content that will be profitable and enjoyable. ESPN isn't going to just die because cable is dying. Crap cable like Oprah's network and other networks no one actually watches will suffer the most.

ESPN is just going to shift to a different means of getting to people who want to watch. Many, many people will still demand their content because they have huge contracts with MLB, NFL, and NBA. They'll suffer somewhat because some people "subscribe" to ESPN and don't watch it today. However, MANY people still do and as I said, they will make money other ways along with keeping their base. Disney is too smart to just let it die...investors don't like ambiguity.
 
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bjlc57

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obviously Disney may be in bigger trouble then when I first posted this. To now charge an outrageous fee for either early or late hours. More cutbacks and not additions to the parks. and hearing that personnel manning the parks is being cut.. WHEN DOES MANAGEMENT STOP RUNNING RED FLAGS AND STOP SIGNS. When do they read the message BRIDGE IS OUT GIANT CANYON AHEAD?. STEEP DROP AHEAD. all those things that the average person sees.. that the laws of SUPPLY AND DEMAND , even apply to Disney World.. and the more you raise rates the less tickets you sell. I find this last couple of months shocking and scary .. and with NO DREAMERS on the horizon.. I don't see any way that the EVIL BEAN COUNTERS can be saved from themselves.. The slippery slope is ahead.. who finally is put in charge to convince that WISHES DO COME TRUE ..and that DREAMERS started this company.. and need to Dream a way out of this apocalypse that is about to happen..
 

Hakunamatata

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The fact that they are charging for extra hour events means that they are most certainly in tune with supply and demand. Now they may be close to the tipping point but rest assured they will hover on that point. Typing in all caps and vommeting wishful thinking is not going to have much of an impact.
 

Minnesota disney fan

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Disney has to start to look and see that its "core people, " the Baby Boomers of the late 40's and 50's.. with 57 being our biggest birth year, is starting to die off. Those of us who watched Davy Crockett and Annette with such intense, are going away.. I am 59.. I watched the Mickey Mouse Club in black and white.. WDW gave me a place to encourage my love and to give in to all those things we were taught on a daily basis.. a place where my siblings who are much younger , have no idea what churns in my inner being when I walk or drive under that Banner on the south side of the property.. They never had THAT DISNEY EXPERIENCE.. and never will . We have been the ones to bring our kids..but because our kids never had the daily indoctrination they get Disney but only to a certain point.. They still do not quite understand , why does DAD cry at Disney... ? what causes that type of deep emotion.The new Mouse Club was a whiff of the original show.. We were taught lessons of life and honesty and how to be a good person. Not to lie or cheat but to help one another. And there are less of us each and every day. Including many of the Mouseketeers ..We got WDW to this point.. and we have brought others with us.. .but the deep loyalty is not as deep as it was with us core people .. and it never will be, and it can't be.. and the less it gets.. The more management needs to work to keep the spark and the dream alive.. They need to offer more and not less. and if they don't see this people can change. .No one would ever think that GM would go out of business. but in effect, they did.. Sears is going to close.. JC Penney isn't far behind.. a husband and wife friend of mine, worked at one each 25 years ago.. and the morning joke was , Which store was bigger, number one in sales, as they were one and two at the time.Now both will soon be gone..Dance parties will not carry WDW into the next 25 years. No matter how often management says to let us "eat them".. as the old quote " let them eat cake .." Let them EAT DANCE PARTIES...

I agree with you completely. I am 66 y/o and remember all of that. We could never afford to go to Disneyland when I was a child, but I loved watching "World of Color" and MMClub and wish and wonder if I would ever make it to that magical place.

Well, my first trip was when our kids were 5 and 7, and I have seen the decline ever since then. My husband and I are in a place where can go to wdw every year, and we have been doing that for several years.

It saddens me to say that this year may be our last year onsite, surrounded by the bubble. If things continue the way they are going with cut services, entertainment, food quality, charging more for what used to be free to onsite guests, etc, etc, the list goes on, then we are going to stay offsite in a condo and go to all the other wonderful places Florida has to offer:) We tried Universal last year and Loved. It. We want to explore that option more. Never been to discovery cove, so that is one as well. We love Sea World, and will include that as well as beaches.

I hope Disney wakes up and sees that you cannot go on forever on your brand name only. You are right about Sears and Gm. I remember when Sears tools meant quality made. Then they went cheap and go foreign cheaply made tools, and their business went down from there, as an example. No One is immune to this happening.

Oh how I would love to read on these sites that Disney has increased CM's pay and training once again, that they were adding more entertainment and not charging extra for it, that they cared about customer service once again. Sigh..............
 

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