I waitlisted a room but it is now available online!

mousefan1972

Well-Known Member
I have just started reading through some of these posts to see if there are some unwritten rules to this reservation game. I call it a game as i really am starting to believe you are going to stay where DVC says you are going to stay. I am a brand new member having just paid $26K for my units and then a month later getting a bill for another thousand dollars for maintenance. I have just tried multiple times to use my points by trying to book on line, only to get waitlisted each time. Multiply requests, different dates, different resorts and waitlisted each and every time. How is this possible? The funny part is I could stay at Saratoga Springs each and every time but no where else. I am not talking about 3 or 4 requests in prime times, i am talking like 20 in times that show in the book to be the slowest, i.e. lowest point cost. I have gotten on the phone with member services and they have been no help what so ever, in fact even transfering me to member services saying i could sell my units, esentially hanging up on me by transfering me to a unanswered line. i havent even had a chance to use any of my units and they are happy to help me sell them.

i have gone to disney resorts probably 40 times or more over the years, i have been a great customer and spent a lot of money down there. i thought DVC would be a nice thing for my kids to have. i was wrong. i was shocked at the attitudes and complete lack of help in getting bookings from DVC. It is almost impossible to use these units without doing multiple bookings nine months in advance. That wasnt what we were sold and frankly i am pretty unhappy about it. What did i do wrong? i didnt pay all this money to be treated like they are doing my a favor by letting me stay at a resort i have no interest in staying at. The hotels are all slow during the times i am trying to book the timeshares, no problems getting in anywhere if i want to pay for the room. Not all the timeshares can possibly be entirely full each and every time i ask for. i take that back, there was one night available for one of the multiple periods i requested. impossible.

i am just totally disallusioned with how i have been treated versus how nice they were when i bought the units. Has anyone experienced anything this bad? is there any secret handshake that i need to know. I am so upset and unhappy about this. i really feel taken.

It sounds like you made an uninformed purchase. DVC is best suited to those who can book 10-11 months in advance. And what is considered slow time for the parks and resorts does not correlate to DVC slow periods. Perhaps if you had researched how DVC works a bit better before you bought, you wouldn't be so unhappy.
 

tjkraz

Active Member
I have just started reading through some of these posts to see if there are some unwritten rules to this reservation game. I call it a game as i really am starting to believe you are going to stay where DVC says you are going to stay. I am a brand new member having just paid $26K for my units and then a month later getting a bill for another thousand dollars for maintenance. I have just tried multiple times to use my points by trying to book on line, only to get waitlisted each time. Multiply requests, different dates, different resorts and waitlisted each and every time. How is this possible? The funny part is I could stay at Saratoga Springs each and every time but no where else. I am not talking about 3 or 4 requests in prime times, i am talking like 20 in times that show in the book to be the slowest, i.e. lowest point cost. I have gotten on the phone with member services and they have been no help what so ever, in fact even transfering me to member services saying i could sell my units, esentially hanging up on me by transfering me to a unanswered line. i havent even had a chance to use any of my units and they are happy to help me sell them.

i have gone to disney resorts probably 40 times or more over the years, i have been a great customer and spent a lot of money down there. i thought DVC would be a nice thing for my kids to have. i was wrong. i was shocked at the attitudes and complete lack of help in getting bookings from DVC. It is almost impossible to use these units without doing multiple bookings nine months in advance. That wasnt what we were sold and frankly i am pretty unhappy about it. What did i do wrong? i didnt pay all this money to be treated like they are doing my a favor by letting me stay at a resort i have no interest in staying at. The hotels are all slow during the times i am trying to book the timeshares, no problems getting in anywhere if i want to pay for the room. Not all the timeshares can possibly be entirely full each and every time i ask for. i take that back, there was one night available for one of the multiple periods i requested. impossible.

i am just totally disallusioned with how i have been treated versus how nice they were when i bought the units. Has anyone experienced anything this bad? is there any secret handshake that i need to know. I am so upset and unhappy about this. i really feel taken.

Some specifics would help but in general I can tell you that the entire fall period from October right through New Year's is immensely popular these days.

In October and November there's the Food & Wine Fest at Epcot plus Halloween decor and parties. I think there's a marathon event in there, too.

November also has the infamous "Jersey Week."

Then later in the month you get into Thanksgiving and the start of the Christmas holiday season. Perhaps the biggest mistake new members consistently make is thinking that those early December weeks where points are low is a slow time. That is perhaps the highest demand period in all of DVC. Members book right at 11 months and do a good job of filling the resorts.

If you look at those point charts DVC gave you and add up the points to stay in a single room for an entire year, THAT total is the number of points DVC can sell for every room it builds. According to my handy-dandy iPhone point tracking app, it would take 17,380 points to spend all of 2012 in a Two Bedroom Savanna View room at Animal Kingdom Villas. So for every 2B they construct, Disney can sell nearly 17,000 points (they hold back 2% for maintenance purposes.)

To carry the analogy further, imagine there is just the one Savanna view 2B. That's the only DVC room. If you want to spend December 1-7, 2012 in that room, you would have to be the very first caller among the dozens of owners to call and book those nights. If another owner calls first, you won't get the dates.

It's not that difficult because there are actually thousands of rooms...but there are also hundreds-of-thousands of owners. With a timeshare it that everything is first-come, first-served.

My wife and I have been owners for nearly 10 years now and have gotten what we wanted pretty much every time. This December we are staying at the BoardWalk for 5 nights. Three of those nights were booked 11 months out using points we own at the BW and the other two nights I was lucky to get right at 8:00am, 7 months out.

I can understand the frustration but there's really not much DVC could have done for you. When the rooms are full, they are full. You could always go on the waiting list and perhaps get something on your first choice of dates. Or you could just chalk this up to poor timing and start planning something for 2013.

Good luck!
 

puntagordabob

Well-Known Member
We are BLT owners since 2009... you need to book out at your 11 month booking window the very MORNING you are eligible to do so..... call ahead to DVC and ask what date that is and they can tell you... know when member services is opening on that day and be dialing it at that precise time (heck I start 5 minutes early lol) and use your redail function until you get through (all of the rest of us are calling at the same time as you lol).....

If you are trying for a NON-home resort then know your seven month date..... its trickier but we have usually gotten in where we want to (with exception of BC)......
 

tjkraz

Active Member
We are BLT owners since 2009... you need to book out at your 11 month booking window the very MORNING you are eligible to do so.....

I'm all for advocating booking well in advance but I don't think this comment is an accurate representation. There are VERY FEW situations in which booking "the very morning you are eligible to do so" is necessary. Animal Kingdom Villas concierge units are the one that comes immediately to mind since there are so few (5 rooms.) BoardWalk Standard View and BLT Standard View in December can be tough gets. Maybe OKW Grand Villas again in December.

Other than that, it's typically quite easy to book one's Home Resort 8-9 months prior to arrival and success at 7 months is quite widespread. We've been members for 9 years and have successfully booked at 7 months:

BoardWalk Standard View (multiple times)
Beach Club
Old Key West
Animal Kingdom Villas
BLT (Lake View)

Odds for success will vary depending upon the season, room size and other similar factors. But to suggest folks need to be on the phone within a few hours of the start of the booking window is just not correct. At least not 99+ percent of the time.

The trouble comes when people try to book on much less than 7 months notice. Trying to get a room on less than 6 months notice is dicey. Old Key West, Saratoga Springs and Animal Kingdom tend to be the last 3 to fill, and even those can be tough to get into if you wait long enough.
 

puntagordabob

Well-Known Member
I'm all for advocating booking well in advance but I don't think this comment is an accurate representation. There are VERY FEW situations in which booking "the very morning you are eligible to do so" is necessary. .

Well you say this and thats fine...however if this person wants to BE SURE to get their dates my strategy is very sound..... once you have your dates at your home resort you can then afford to patiently waitlist something somwhere else if you choose.....
 

tjkraz

Active Member
Well you say this and thats fine...however if this person wants to BE SURE to get their dates my strategy is very sound..... once you have your dates at your home resort you can then afford to patiently waitlist something somwhere else if you choose.....

I have no objections with booking 11 months in advance if travel dates are confirmed. No reason not to do it.

But to the poster in question--a frustrated new member who has zero first-hand experience--you're pouring gasoline on the fire by even implying that the only way to get a room is to book "the very morning you are eligible to do so."

Yes there are exceedingly popular dates and small classes of rooms (views) which fill up fast. But those dates and rooms are well in the minority.

With BCV as the one noteworthy exception, there are very few cases where owners consistently fill their Home resort before 7 months. In most cases an owner could book 7 months + 1 day at their Home and still find availability at even the smallest resorts. I say this as someone with nearly 10 years experience booking and 3 different home resorts.

It's inside of 7 months when things quickly get tight as non-owners gobble up remaining availability at the more popular locations.
 

puntagordabob

Well-Known Member
I have no objections with booking 11 months in advance if travel dates are confirmed. No reason not to do it.

But to the poster in question--a frustrated new member who has zero first-hand experience--you're pouring gasoline on the fire by even implying that the only way to get a room is to book "the very morning you are eligible to do so."

Yes there are exceedingly popular dates and small classes of rooms (views) which fill up fast. But those dates and rooms are well in the minority.
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The original poster was having waitlist issues.... my suggestion is a way to minimize the need for a waitlist at your home resort...

I am not sure what resort you are my friend...but at BLT if you want something specific (standard view studio for example) and are fixed in your dates you really need to heed the advice I posted... granted there are always exceptions to anything...but since 2009 we have learned this from experience. Now at OKW or even SSR thats a different story since those resorts are a lot larger.

Now we are Local to WDW (easy 2 hours by car)....so we can get BLT a night or two here and there No Problem if we are flexible on our dates..... but a lot of the times we like to go include the week after Thanksgiving, NYE, etc are in demand......we go to WDW quite a lot....

So in conclusion, anyone can do whatever they want....but if the dates, location, and room type are important to you then the advise I gave is your best hope to avoid the unhappy news that your room is not Open for booking for you.....and rolling the dice on a waitlist game of chance.

Just Saying......

 

tjkraz

Active Member
The original poster was having waitlist issues.... my suggestion is a way to minimize the need for a waitlist at your home resort...

I am not sure what resort you are my friend...but at BLT if you want something specific (standard view studio for example) and are fixed in your dates you really need to heed the advice I posted... granted there are always exceptions to anything...but since 2009 we have learned this from experience. Now at OKW or even SSR thats a different story since those resorts are a lot larger.

I wholeheartedly agree that owners SHOULD book as far out as possible if they want to be most satisfied with their DVC usage.

However, I still take exception to the suggestion that anyone not booking within a couple hours of their 11 month window will have difficulty booking. And that's particularly true for a member like "new to disney timeshare" who isn't going to be booking BLT Standard View at 11 months as an AKV owner.

To put some actual data to it, I looked up availability for two of our resorts on-line: Boardwalk and Grand Californian.

For BoardWalk, there are only 7 nights in March and April 2013 combined where a Standard View Studio is not available today--that's for dates just outside of the 7 month window. There are only 2 nights were a BoardWalk View Studio is not available. For May and June 2013, every night is available in every view.

Two Bedroom units yielded similar results with a handful of Standard View nights unavailable in March and April, a couple full nights in the BoardWalk view and everything else wide open. The Garden / Pool view is available for all dates, all room sizes.

One Bedroom is also available in all views for all dates.

At the Grand Californian, the smallest of all DVC properties, Studio, 1B and 2B rooms are available on every night from March through the end of June 2013.

I completely agree that owners only have themselves to blame if they do not book early enough and get what they want. And yes, there may be a handful of resorts / dates / views which book up right at 11 months. But those resorts / dates / views are so far in the minority that it's getting ridiculous to keep rolling out this concept that "if you aren't on the phone at 9am when your 11 month window starts, you won't get it!!!"

Any owner who bemoans DVC because they cannot consistently get BoardWalk Standard View or Bay Lake Standard View at 7.5 months has unrealistic expectations. If a Pool / Garden or Lake View isn't acceptable on such short notice, the owner will never be satisfied with DVC.
 

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