I Phone - Nay or Yay?

[EPCOT Explorer]

Interesting, Dave.


However...I think the iPhone still wins for me. See the NYT Review. :lol: Honestly, that's what I look for in a phone.

 

[Phonedave]

Interesting, Dave.


However...I think the iPhone still wins for me. See the NYT Review. :lol: Honestly, that's what I look for in a phone.

“Since Verizon seems to want a Droid-iPhone faceoff, here it is: the Droid wins on phone network, customizability, GPS navigation, speaker, physical keyboard, removable battery and openness (free operating system, mostly uncensored app store). The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store.”


What part do you look for ?

Refinement - well, OK, thats because this is the first Droid. Let the next two or three models come out, then we can talk refinement.

I am not even sure what the heck "accessory ecosystem" is supposed to be.


The app store comment is funny. Apple today announced it hit 10,000 apps in it's store. I forget the actual numbers off the top of my head, but once you get somewhere below the top 500 or so apps, the remaining 9,500 have almost no usage. Talk about your long tails.

-dave

 

[disney4life2008]

Ok, I have used the I Phone for 24 hours now. I am not really feeling the phone so far (remember, I am coming from Windows Mobile). My main issue is that my fingers are to big for the little keys on the touchable keyboard. When I want a specific key, I end up pressing another key). I would prefer to have a full size keyboard that I can physically touch. Also, I have made all of 20 minutes worth of calls and my battery has deminshed to 70% (I have not even used the internet because my data package is not working). The sound quality is terrible - everyone sounds muffled on the other end. So I am having a problem seeing what the big deal is about the IPhone. The apps are nice but I want a workable phone - this phone seems to be all beauty but not functional (for me).

I think I am sending this back for the HTC Tilt 2. I am a Windows baby! I tried the IPhone but it is just not me.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

“Since Verizon seems to want a Droid-iPhone faceoff, here it is: the Droid wins on phone network, customizability, GPS navigation, speaker, physical keyboard, removable battery and openness (free operating system, mostly uncensored app store). The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store.”


What part do you look for ?

Refinement - well, OK, thats because this is the first Droid. Let the next two or three models come out, then we can talk refinement.

I am not even sure what the heck "accessory ecosystem" is supposed to be.


The app store comment is funny. Apple today announced it hit 10,000 apps in it's store. I forget the actual numbers off the top of my head, but once you get somewhere below the top 500 or so apps, the remaining 9,500 have almost no usage. Talk about your long tails.

-dave

I was talking about that.:lookaroun:lol:

 

[disney4life2008]

I do not understand, I have not touched my phone in the last 2 hours and the battery has decreased to 50% from 70%.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Ok, I have used the I Phone for 24 hours now. I am not really feeling the phone so far (remember, I am coming from Windows Mobile). My main issue is that my fingers are to big for the little keys on the touchable keyboard. When I want a specific key, I end up pressing another key). I would prefer to have a full size keyboard that I can physically touch. Also, I have made all of 20 minutes worth of calls and my battery has deminshed to 70% (I have not even used the internet because my data package is not working). The sound quality is terrible - everyone sounds muffled on the other end. So I am having a problem seeing what the big deal is about the IPhone. The apps are nice but I want a workable phone - this phone seems to be all beauty but not functional (for me).

I think I am sending this back for the HTC Tilt 2. I am a Windows baby! I tried the IPhone but it is just not me.

Give it time! You'll get used to it.

 

[Exprcoofto]

I do not understand, I have not touched my phone in the last 2 hours and the battery has decreased to 50% from 70%.

It might be some background stuff running. iPhone drains the battery really fast, you might want to invest in an external battery.

As for the iPhone itself, it's awesome. I absolutely love the apps (especially Disney's) and my number 1 app would have to be Tweettie 2. I recently jailbroke my iPhone to allow myself to create themes for it. Here is what my iPhone looks like now-

The Lockscreen:

The SpringBoard:

*There is no Google Chrome for the iPhone, I made that change
**Can you spot all the EPCOT logos?

While the iPhone may be all great, AT&T absolutely stinks. It works great in major cities and outlining areas, but I do not live in either of those. I hardly get any service at my house. They really need to increase their 3G network to match Verizons, but if they won't then Verizon will still have the best coverage. (use to have Verizon but I wanted the iPhone so bad)

 

[magicmaya]

I love my iPhone! I begged for it ever since apple came out with the first one and I finally got my iPhone 3G for christmas! I'm attatched to it and it has everything I need on it! It's the most genus invention ever!!!

 

[Monty]

Droid Camera vs iPhone 3GS Camera Comparison Pics

A fairly detailed analysis of the two cameras. Except for the flash that doesn't work well unless the subject is in the "sweet spot", droid loses on almost every comparison.

I have found the iPhone touch-screen keyboard to be the only keypad available on any phone on the market that I can actually type on [this was my primary reason for buying]. Most of the apps are more for fun than practicality, but I regularly use maps, Google, Google Earth, YouTube, Ping! and SKype. Facebook occasionally.

The camera and SMS/MMS are both high-traffic tools.

 

[disney4life2008]

Well.....

The I Phone is no more. I upgraded to an HTC Tilt 2. I tried my best to like the IPhone but the Tilt does more for me. I loved the IPhone Apps but that was the only reason I liked the phone. And I got a discount and a lot of freebies - better than when I got the IPhone..:ROFLOL:

 

[Phonedave]

Droid Camera vs iPhone 3GS Camera Comparison Pics

A fairly detailed analysis of the two cameras. Except for the flash that doesn't work well unless the subject is in the "sweet spot", droid loses on almost every comparison.

I have found the iPhone touch-screen keyboard to be the only keypad available on any phone on the market that I can actually type on [this was my primary reason for buying]. Most of the apps are more for fun than practicality, but I regularly use maps, Google, Google Earth, YouTube, Ping! and SKype. Facebook occasionally.

The camera and SMS/MMS are both high-traffic tools.

That not really that detailed an analysis. He took a series of photos with two phones.

We have no idea what sort of settings were on either phone, what the lighting was, what the subject was supposed to look like, etc etc. That is not how you compare cameras. The Droid may indeed be worse for all I know, but that article is not a good comparison.

Not to mention Andy Ihnatko has made no bones about his hate for Verizon and the iDont advertising over the last few weeks. I highly doubt that if the Droid was favorable he would come out and support it after the way he has been lanbasting it all over the place. Hardy an unbiased review.




-dave

 

[Phonedave]

I was talking about that.:lookaroun:lol:

Right, you were talking about this

The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store.

What part of this ? The whole thing. Accessory ecosystem is important to you? Can you explain to me what the heck it is?

Quantity of the app store, when 9,500 out of the 10,000 apps that are there are used by almost nobody ?

Thinness, when the Droid is what, about 1 mm thicker ?

Almost all of the part you bolded are weak weasel type words. What specificaly is it that you like better.

Really, this is not an argument. Call it "market reasearch" if you like.

-dave

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Right, you were talking about this

The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store.

What part of this ? The whole thing. Accessory ecosystem is important to you? Can you explain to me what the heck it is?

Quantity of the app store, when 9,500 out of the 10,000 apps that are there are used by almost nobody ?

Thinness, when the Droid is what, about 1 mm thicker ?

Almost all of the part you bolded are weak weasel type words. What specificaly is it that you like better.

Really, this is not an argument. Call it "market reasearch" if you like.

-dave

I underlined what I look for in a phone. Happy? :lookaroun:lol:


This isn't anything to get worked up over....

 

[Master Yoda]

“Since Verizon seems to want a Droid-iPhone faceoff, here it is: the Droid wins on phone network, customizability, GPS navigation, speaker, physical keyboard, removable battery and openness (free operating system, mostly uncensored app store). The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store.”


What part do you look for ?

Refinement - well, OK, thats because this is the first Droid. Let the next two or three models come out, then we can talk refinement.

I am not even sure what the heck "accessory ecosystem" is supposed to be.


The app store comment is funny. Apple today announced it hit 10,000 apps in it's store. I forget the actual numbers off the top of my head, but once you get somewhere below the top 500 or so apps, the remaining 9,500 have almost no usage. Talk about your long tails.

-dave

The App store is actually up to around 115,000 +/- apps but like you said of those 115,000 all but about 500-1000 are pure crap. The approval process is also quite bizarre. An app like Websters Dictionary gets denied due to inappropriate content yet an app called Asian gets approved.:shrug:

 

[WDW Monorail]

I am not a fan of the iPhone. My father purchased the device because he was looking for a full keyboard phone and a PDA. He figured why not get both in one. It's better than his old Razr but I like my BlackJackII much better. It really irritates my fingers to use the touch screen and seemes too bulky compared to the BJ2. The service is provided by AT&T of course. I guess the only thing I like about the iPhone is the large sceen.

 

[Monty]

The App store is actually up to around 115,000 +/- apps but like you said of those 115,000 all but about 500-1000 are pure crap. The approval process is also quite bizarre. An app like Websters Dictionary gets denied due to inappropriate content yet an app called Asian gets approved.:shrug:

So you jailbreak and get the non-approved apps. :shrug:

 

[Master Yoda]

So you jailbreak and get the non-approved apps. :shrug:

Too much hassle for my taste. It seems like you loose your phone for a day or two waiting for a rehack after every update. I just really do not care for the "you will do things my way" system that Apple has.

 

[Monty]

Too much hassle for my taste. It seems like you loose your phone for a day or two waiting for a rehack after every update. I just really do not care for the "you will do things my way" system that Apple has.

As far as I can tell, jailbreaking is a much smoother process now:

- Back-up using iTunes [or there's a Cydia tool for backing up your non-Apple-approved apps], which should be done regularly anyway,

- Update O/S as normal,

- Download latest jailbreak tool and run it,

- Restore apps from back-up.

The whole process takes less than half an hour. I spend more time doing basic maintenance on my PC. The only negative, if you could call it that, is you don't upgrade your O/S immediately when Apple releases it, instead you wait two or three days for the jailbreak tool to be released. :shrug:

All that said, I don't bother jailbreaking myself, haven't seen a need. I'm very happy with the iPhone as is. But I keep abreast of the jailbreak and unlock information so I can do it when I want to.

We now have four iPhone carriers in Canada. Unlocking will certainly be a consideration if they're ever competitive.

 

[Phonedave]

I underlined what I look for in a phone. Happy? :lookaroun:lol:


This isn't anything to get worked up over....

Yes, I am happy. Now that wasn't so hard, was it? To provide a concrete answer as opposed to a vague smarmy comment.


-dave

 

[Phonedave]

Too much hassle for my taste. It seems like you loose your phone for a day or two waiting for a rehack after every update. I just really do not care for the "you will do things my way" system that Apple has.

Interestingly, that is one of the reasons the iPhone is not on the Verizon network.

Both Verizon and Apple were very much "my way or the highway" companies. They could not come to terms. Since that time Verizon has sort of "seen the light" and back down on that stance a bit - opening up it's network. Baby steps, but still steps. It's hard to shift from a legal monopoly mindset to an open one. Apple still likes to weild a big stick.

-dave