bethymouse
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@jdmdisney99 they have the rights for the small scene for GMR but I think it was limited to just that use for that ride exclusively from what I remember reading. This why you haven't seem them do anything with Oz anywhere else in the park. I could be wrong but though.
cowanfamily
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I see your new to the boards, so I'll let it go. Don't put yourself out there unless your prepared to back it up. BTW, I'll take Disney's "vapor" over your hot air any day!
cowanfamily
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@cowanfamily you haven't chimed in on Oz Land. What is your take? Can they pull it off? Is it something guests want in the park? Does my vision fit the bill? We know Avatar is coming just don't know to what degree. They are holding back to WOW us. or they have no solid plan as of yet. I am guessing they will be going with the WOW factor since they NEED to so they can compete with the neighbors. So back to my beloved Oz Land...
It would be nice, but I don't see it happening. They just "expanded" FL. Avatar is going to AK. It's rumored Carsland to HS. That leaves EPCOT without any major work. But Oz doesn't fit the themeing there.
DisneyGuyNYC
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I'm not new to the internet in general and I've read these boards for a while. I never said I would leave this site, only that Avatar has had zero mention since it's initial announcement and I doubt their grand plans for creating a whole Pandoraland will ever happen. I stand by that.
Sorry I struck a chord with you. Clearly this is a sensitive topic. Been waiting a real long time for anything on this crappy idea to happen?
Mmm hot air.
cowanfamily
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I'm not new to the internet in general and I've read these boards for a while. I never said I would leave this site, only that Avatar has had zero mention since it's initial announcement and I doubt their grand plans for creating a whole Pandoraland will ever happen. I stand by that.
Sorry I struck a chord with you. Clearly this is a sensitive topic. Been waiting a real long time for anything on this crappy idea to happen?
Mmm hot air.
Nope, you didn't strike a chord at all. I just think you should put your money where your mouth is. It's real easy to attack people on message boards, it's a lot harder to back up your words. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your pretty non-confrontational outside of a message board or a text. It's easy to hide behind a keyboard and rip someone.
DisneyGuyNYC
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I'm not confrontational. I just state what I feel. Where I'm from we value honesty and directness in conversation above all else... because that is how you accomplish things. Being honest might seem confrontational to you but to me it's entirely natural to me. I'm not going to sweet talk you if I disagree. I'm direct. I think that would be reflected in the number of "likes" I've already gained in my short time being here (I'm not bragging, simply pointing out that clearly I try to post things of value and enjoying discussing ideas). That doesn't really speak to me being confrontational on here. I don't need your psych 101 analysis of my manner, thank you.
Money where my mouth is? So because I have an opinion and a forecast on something that is different than yours I'm therefore inferring that it's all or nothing and that I'd be willing to die by it? I think that's fairly immature.
Before you say "money where my mouth is" again please point out exactly where I said I would leave this forum forever if I was wrong, because that's what that phrase means. You're the one that proposed "I'll make a deal with you" out of nowhere. I thought that was a little extreme and childish. (This is my honest opinion, not me attacking you - for future reference). I didn't suggest this idea and I don't need to "stand by" whatever anyone dares me to do nor do I need to make every "bet" somebody proposes. I'm not 12 years old.
Also please point out where I "attacked" you. Or anyone. Please. I'd love to know where I did that.
Fairly sure I attacked the concept of an Avatarland and the idea that it's going to happen as originally planned or at all anytime soon. I think it's fair game to attack a concept or idea on a forum where we discuss ideas. Just because you like an idea that I don't or believe something will happen that I disagree with doesn't mean that I'm attacking on you.
You need to stop taking everything so personally. It's a proposed idea for a theme park attraction based on a passé movie with little cultural impact outside of the box office gain it earned by touting a gimmick.
It's not your child.
cowanfamily
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blah, blah, blah. Hot air! Mr. Irrelevant.
DisneyGuyNYC
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cowanfamily
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I'll tell you what. Let's put all of this aside and meet up at Avatar in a couple of years.
DisneyGuyNYC
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Sure, perhaps within the next 5 years they'll build a lackluster ride and maybe a gift shop.
If you mean meeting up at the original Avatarland concept than you'll just have to wait for me to make it through:
Beastly Kindom, Fire Mountain, Disney's America, Disneyland East, Disney Niagara Falls, Riverfront Square, Texposition, Snow Crown, the Disneyland Bowl, the Lava Lagoon, National Harbor, the Asian Resort and Spa, the Venetian Resort and Spa, the Mediterranean Resort and Spa, The Pop Century Legendary Years, the Disneyland Resort Hotel, Lilliputian Land,Mythia, Tomorrowlad 2055, Hollywoodland, "Big City USA," World Holiday Land, Edison Square, Liberty Street, the African Pavilion, the Iranian Pavilion, the Israeli Pavilion, the Soviet Union Pavilion, the Spanish Pavilion, the Swiss Pavilion, the UAE Pavilion, the Venezuelan Pavilion, Atlantis, Geyser Mountain, Museum of the Wierd, The Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride, The Rogues Gallery, the Pirate Wax Museum, Plectu's Fantastic Intergalatic Revue, The UFO Show, Nostromo, the Space Port, The Island at the Top of the World, the Fireworks Factory, the Gallery of Illusions, the Voyage Thru Time, the Spark Gap Electric Loop Coaster, The Enchanted Snow Palace, Lightkeepers, Rock Candy Mountain, Indiana Jones Lost Expedition, Adventures In Science, Duck Bumps, the Windmill Ride, the Circus Hot Air Balloons, Mickey's Madhouse, the Mary Poppins Ride, Dick Tracy's Crime Stoppers, the Toontown Trolley, Baby Herman's Runaway Baby Buggy, the Rainbow Road to Oz, The Great Animation Machine, the No Doubt version of Rock N' Roller Coaster, the Circle of Hands, Grizzle Railroad, the Chocolate Factor Tour, the Incredibles Ride, the Water Flume, the Green Army Men Parachute Drop, Surfing Lessons into Paradise Bay, Odyssea, Lights Camera Animation!, Drag Tower, Quest for the Unicorn, Fantasia Gardens, the Rainforest Roller Coaster, The Excavator, the Dinorama Meteor Dark Ride,The Tree of Life Carousel, The Great Disney Movie Villains Ride, Benny the Cab's Wild Ride, the Tron Gaming Center, the Mount Fuji Roller Coaster, the Simulated Bullet Train Ride, the Godzilla Bullet Train Ride, Meet the World, the Rhine River Cruise, Junior Autopia, Journey into Space, the Movie Pavilions, the Thames River Ride, the UK audio-animatronics stage show, the WEDway PeopleMover, Thunder Mesa, the Western River Expedition, the Lewis and Clark River Expedition, the Duck Tales Ride, Pixie Hollow, Cinderella's Chateau, Aurora's Cottage, the Pirates of the Caribbean Shooting Gallery, the Tarzan Coaster, Jungle Exploration, Discovery Mountain, the Jungle Book Animatronics show, Glacier Peak, The Enchanted Tiki Room sit down dining restaurant, the Copperfield Magic Underground, Gonzo's Pandemonium Pizza Parlor, the Discoveryland Restaurant, the Nautilus Restaurant, and the Vulcania Restaurant
beforehand. That okay?
See a pattern?
Just a question @DisneyGuyNYC.. Since I am not up on all the Disney Plans from the past. Were any of the above ever mentioned formally by Disney that they were moving forward with it and it was coming to the parks? And if so can you please provide links to them?
DisneyGuyNYC
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Yes some were formally announced and quietly dropped and others were leaked plans that were either in the later stages of development and couldn't find funding/the Imagineers lost interest or were leaked because of Disney's inquiries into land and capital/resources.
Beastly Kingdom is probably everyone's favorite.
More information can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_attractions_that_were_never_built
Wikipedia isn't a great source but if you scroll to the bottom and click the links in the footnotes it will take you to the more reliable sources with even more information on each attraction.
This site has some great photos:
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/05/wikipedia-list-of-never-built-disney.html
Alternatively you can simply Google each attraction for information and concept art for each. It's pretty depressing to say the least.
Avatar has followed the pattern pretty spectacularly.
They're starting full construction on Disney Springs a month after the announcement. It's been two years since any discussion of Avatar since being announced and three years since that movie came out. I think that speaks for itself.
If anything gets built it will be a single ride.