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[speck76]

Great post.

But wouldn't you also say that the small 1% could be the reason that a decent number of guests go to WDW, from word of mouth? I don't know figures at all, so don't think I'm trying to make some super smart statement, I'm just asking.

And if Disney doesn't consider that 1% (Just a little bit) when making some decisions, then it could potentially hurt them in the long run? Again I'm just posing the question.

Word of mouth typically does more bad than good.

Being a manager in the tourism industry for over 10 years, one of the first things I was every told was about "word of mouth marketing". When people have a good experience, they tell on average 2-5 people. When the experience is bad, they tell 15-18 people.

The internet has changed this entire model. Now, anyone has the ability to tell countless numbers of people....BUT, this has almost backfired.

The attitude in the Us has really changed over the last 5 years......more and more people now "don't want to hear it". A great deal of people have developed a strong sense of entitlement....almost a "don't tell ME what I wont like, don't tell ME what to do" thing......it is evident in the attitudes of the guests that we see coming down to Orlando......and it is sad, and very challenging.

As for the 1%......they will never be lost. People who are most passionate about something will never leave it. Think of it as the "He beats me because he loves me" syndrome. You might not like what WDW is doing, or has been doing the past few years, but you still visit, and you will continue to visit.

The other 99%, they are not so dedicated. If they do not enjoy a new attraction, or if something new does not appeal to them, they may not be back, they do not have that emotional connection.

Unfortunately, the 99% group is easily entertained, likes cheap thrills, and does not pay attention to details.

 

[dxwwf3]

Thanks for answering!

At least after seeing Remember...Dreams Come True vidoes, it seems that Disney does still care about the fans sometimes.

 

[speck76]

Lots and lots of classics go out of business. Classisity does ensure business tenure.

I never spent a dime in that shop! However, it was a classic. All the CM's that worked that shop were magicians and they performed their feats of legerdemain every day. It was far too costly for WDW to keep this venue in business.

Isn't it now on DTD's West Side, or is that just something similar?

 

[speck76]

Not all the park has to become an E-Ticket celebration. It's ok to keep a few slow paced rides.

An all E-ticket park is bad news........but the "filler" attractions should be both popular enough to encourage ridership (therefore actually doing the job of filling the gaps between major attractions) and they should get positive guest reaction.

 

[Woody13]

Because Disney World really lacks any other place for expansion, right?
Not all the park has to become an E-Ticket celebration. It's ok to keep a few slow paced rides.

No. It's because both CoP and CBJ are way too dated and need to be removed and/or replaced. I "attempted" to see CoP back in April. The attraction stopped dead in its tracks! I sat there for 3 introductions, while a technician tried to get the thing working. Instead, we had to leave and they closed it down!

In CBJ I took a sound meter with me into the attraction. I measured and recorded the levels. The sound is terrible and the show is worse! It was good for its time, but its time has long passed. They might be able to upgrade CBJ similar to the Tiki Room. That would be a very welcome change. After all, both Tex Ritter and his son John Ritter are dead! So is White Flash! Let's progress.

 

[Woody13]

Isn't it now on DTD's West Side, or is that just something similar?

Well, it's Magic Masters.
http://www.magicmasters.com/

 

[darthdarrel]

Yep, the only thing that will kill Disney is if they keep attractions like CoP and CBJ too much longer.

I beg to differ!
Cedar point has kept it's Roller coaster The blue Streak and it is one of the most ridden on coasters in the park.
And in Disney terms, They have kept the Haunted Mansion , Pirates of the caribean and it's a small world and those are the most beloved rides and Most ridden on rides. Why do you think that Disney constantly refurbishes these rides instead of just demolishing them? HMMM Woody?
It is because Disney realizes that to tear them down would be a disaster.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

An all E-ticket park is bad news........but the "filler" attractions should be both popular enough to encourage ridership (therefore actually doing the job of filling the gaps between major attractions) and they should get positive guest reaction.

No arguing about that.

No. It's because both CoP and CBJ are way too dated and need to be removed and/or replaced. I "attempted" to see CoP back in April. The attraction stopped dead in its tracks! I sat there for 3 introductions, while a technician tried to get the thing working. Instead, we had to leave and they closed it down!

In CBJ I took a sound meter with me into the attraction. I measured and recorded the levels. The sound is terrible and the show is worse! It was good for its time, but its time has long passed. They might be able to upgrade CBJ similar to the Tiki Room. That would be a very welcome change. After all, both Tex Ritter and his son John Ritter are dead! So is White Flash! Let's progress.

In that case, all that's needed is a refurb. If it's a small world got one, I see no reason why these ones need to be replaced instead of "freshened up" a bit!

 

[Shaman]

Greater Miami
Claim to fame: Sun, sizzle and celebrities
Bottom line: City changes image to attract a new generation of tourists

Once a sanctuary for middle-class snowbirds, Miami was a paradise lost by the 1980s. It was overwhelmed with Cuban and Haitian refugees, high unemployment and hopelessness.

Thats an interesting comment....

 

[Shaman]

Yep, the only thing that will kill Disney is if they keep attractions like CoP and CBJ too much longer.

No. The only thing that will kill Disney is the mentality that replacing those attractions with meet and greets is okay.

If you're going to replace something, replace it with something better.

Change is not always good, SGE is the best example of bad change....The Land is a great example of good change.

 

[speck76]

I beg to differ!
Cedar point has kept it's Roller coaster The blue Streak and it is one of the most ridden on coasters in the park.

WRONG!

Even back in 1995, when I worked at Cedar Point, the Blue Streak was not in the top 10 of most ridden attractions in the park.