How much do CMs make? ($$$$)

raven

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by blackride
Its not like these are highly skilled or technical jobs here people. I dont understand why people think that they should get paid so much money for sitting people on rides and so forth.....

Tell me this: Would you drive a bus full of screaming tourists all day for $6.70/hour? Or answer dumb tourist questions all day on the phone for $6.70/hour? Or how about being in an extreamly heavy costume in the hot Florida sun where you can barely breath and have to sign 2,500 autographs a day for $6.70/hour?

You would if you are a true Disney nut. :D Even so, its very low pay compared to similar jobs.
 

cherrynegra

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by blackride
Its not like these are highly skilled or technical jobs here people. I dont understand why people think that they should get paid so much money for sitting people on rides and so forth.....

Oh, I see. So according to your argument there is no skill or technical knowledge needed when loading or unloading cars and preventing people from getting injured and so forth? And I'm sorry, but $6.75 an hour is NOT a lot of money and I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for a working wage. You know. The kind of wage that you're able to live on and support a family with.

Lord knows I spend enough money at the parks and I'd rather see some of it go to maintain the parks and hire quality people rather than putting it in the pockets of those soulless buzzards in suits like Eisner.

CMs of all stripes are grossly underpaid and undervalued and it shouldn't be that way. These are the people that make Disney run and they are the ambassadors of the company to the general public. It's high time that they were treated with more respect and certainly paid with a little more respect.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by cherrynegra
CMs of all stripes are grossly underpaid and undervalued and it shouldn't be that way. These are the people that make Disney run and they are the ambassadors of the company to the general public. It's high time that they were treated with more respect and certainly paid with a little more respect.

Hear hear! :sohappy:
 

Dayma

Well-Known Member
CMs of all stripes are grossly underpaid and undervalued and it shouldn't be that way. These are the people that make Disney run and they are the ambassadors of the company to the general public. It's high time that they were treated with more respect and certainly paid with a little more respect.

Its also dangerous for a person at Burger King to use hot oils. Should they get hazard pay and make $20.00 per hour? This is how the market works. If there are people willing to work for that pay then it is not too low. If they are paying too low then there will be nobody to work. Take a look at this subject from a analytical perspective and take out the emotion that everyone has in the subject and this is how I look at it. Also I am NOT saying I dont appreciate the CM's or think they are doing a bad job, in fact I think they do a great job!

This topic always makes me out to be a "villian" but this is how the free economy works and I am just stating it.

So according to your argument there is no skill or technical knowledge needed when loading or unloading cars and preventing people from getting injured and so forth?

I said "highly skilled" and no I dont think you need to be "highly" skilled to do this. This is NO attack on CM's here people.
 

ltbeach

Member
when i retire from the military (6 years 6 months and counting) i am going to move to orlando to work at disney. I want to drive the busses, but i also want to be a character in the parade. will they let me do both?
 

Dayma

Well-Known Member
when i retire from the military (6 years 6 months and counting) i am going to move to orlando to work at disney.

Sounds like that would be a nice calm way to come back to civilian life.

PS - Thanks for defending our country...
 

lamarvenoy

New Member
Welcome to corporate America! I'm a cog in a wheel in a lubricated world and I wanna marry an office girl I've got my tie on.....:lol: I love that song.(see my avatar) I think I'm just gonna quote old punk songs from now on.
 

Defend10

Member
Originally posted by blackride
Its also dangerous for a person at Burger King to use hot oils. Should they get hazard pay and make $20.00 per hour? This is how the market works. If there are people willing to work for that pay then it is not too low. If they are paying too low then there will be nobody to work. Take a look at this subject from a analytical perspective and take out the emotion that everyone has in the subject and this is how I look at it. Also I am NOT saying I dont appreciate the CM's or think they are doing a bad job, in fact I think they do a great job!

This topic always makes me out to be a "villian" but this is how the free economy works and I am just stating it.

I said "highly skilled" and no I dont think you need to be "highly" skilled to do this. This is NO attack on CM's here people.

Nobody is concerned about the dangers to CMs, they're worried about the guests. We move hundreds of thousands of guests a day on attractions, most of the time without incident. Safety plays the upmost concern in attractions, and a CM who's worried about how to make ends meet may not be as concientious as a CM who's satisfied with his/her job. We sure could put a bunch of slobs in charge of the ride you're riding, how would you like to be greeted by a snort, watching the CM play with a yo-yo while rockets are in motion on Space Mountain? Your safety would be in danger if it weren't for these "unskilled" workers.

You want to take the emotional factor out of the equation? We're talking Disney here, taking the emotion out of Disney is taking the heart from an animal and expecting it to live. For someone who's such a big WDW fan, you shouldn't really talk badly of the heart and soul of the company, without the CMs, WDW wouldn't run, simple as that. Without good CMs, we'd get to see injuries daily at every attraction, tigger just standing there looking bored, and you'd be getting burnt fries and soggy burgers at F&B locations. What kind of happy world is that?
 

STGRhost

Member
CMs of all stripes are grossly underpaid and undervalued and it shouldn't be that way.

MOST people don't get paid what they're worth (CMs, teachers, firemen, etc.), and even fewer get paid what they ~think~ they're worth. :lookaroun

We can all argue whether it's fair or not fair, but it's the way or system works.

And what raven said is right - CMs, in general, are looked at as expendable because for every good CM, there are probably 10 other potentially good CMs dying to work for the company. It's the nature of the beast (or mouse, in this case).

Nobody is concerned about the dangers to CMs, they're worried about the guests. We move hundreds of thousands of guests a day on attractions, most of the time without incident. Safety plays the upmost concern in attractions, and a CM who's worried about how to make ends meet may not be as concientious as a CM who's satisfied with his/her job. We sure could put a bunch of slobs in charge of the ride you're riding, how would you like to be greeted by a snort, watching the CM play with a yo-yo while rockets are in motion on Space Mountain? Your safety would be in danger if it weren't for these "unskilled" workers.
Again, Blackride said "Highly skilled" and "technical". It wasn't a slam against CMs. The truth is, you don't ~need~ a college degree or large ammounts of training to run a ride, pick up trash, or serve food. (And, yes, before anyone yells at me, you need SOME training. But we're not brain surgeons or engineers here, folks. It's not the same thing...)

Something else to consider - while Disney doesn't pay it's workers a lot, it stays competitive with other companies like it (Universal, Sea World, etc.) AND it offers excellent benefits to FT, and reasonable perks to all employees (discounts, free stuff, admission to parks, etc.) Sure, they're only perks if you like the company, but that goes back to my point about all the people who just want to work for Disney because it's Disney.

You want to take the emotional factor out of the equation? We're talking Disney here, taking the emotion out of Disney is taking the heart from an animal and expecting it to live. For someone who's such a big WDW fan, you shouldn't really talk badly of the heart and soul of the company, without the CMs, WDW wouldn't run, simple as that. Without good CMs, we'd get to see injuries daily at every attraction, tigger just standing there looking bored, and you'd be getting burnt fries and soggy burgers at F&B locations. What kind of happy world is that?
I don't think anyone said (or implied) that CMs aren't valuable. But they get paid a competitive salary. 50,000 people work for WDW. If we assume that HALF of them are making minimum wage, it's still hard to argue that Disney is losing it's good CMS because they don't pay enough.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Originally posted by ltbeach
will they let me do both?

not at the same time... one or the other. Union contract strongly prohibits that
 

Becky

Active Member
Originally posted by STGRhost
MOST people don't get paid what they're worth (

Pay is based upon what the employer feels the JOB is worth (and how easy or hard it is to fill it) not what the PERSON is worth.

The greatest brain surgeon in the world working at McDonalds would make about $15-20k a year because that is what buger flipping is worth to McDonalds.

That being said CM's are grossly underpaid at WDW. The jobs are worth much more but the problem is they are to easy to fill.

If I took a job at WDW for fun I would do research or custodial so I could be all over the parks. If I did it for money I would choose to be a server at an expensive sit down restaurant.
 

cherrynegra

Well-Known Member
My argument for better paid CMs is based on the idea that if you pay a wage that is not only competitive, but also attractive, it stands to reason that you will attract quality employees. For instance, here in SF what we pay our court reporters is sooo attractive that we were able to raid the Federal courts and take all their top people out of their courts. Why?? Because we paid more for the same kind of work.

I mean really, is simply filling the positions with lower paid employees all they care about? Just some warm body to put in the costume and sit there sulking at guests all day?? I'm sorry, but that is not my idea of paying good money for a "Disney Experience."

Would it not stand to reason then that well paid CMs would then be a lot more happy about dealing with all the rigors involved where the public is concerned? Wouldn't higher paid CMs stamp out that negative feeling of, "Disney Magic? F#%k that!! They don't pay me enough." And if the company showed that it cared about its employees to not only pay them well, but back them up when it comes to disputes with CMs and guests where the guests are so OBVIOUSLY in the wrong, would you not foster a sense of loyalty and respect to the company by your employees?
Something that I'm sure is sorely lacking in most CMs currently.
 

disneyisbest

New Member
Originally posted by blackride
Its not like these are highly skilled or technical jobs here people. I dont understand why people think that they should get paid so much money for sitting people on rides and so forth.....
IMHO dealing with the general public is at least worth ten dollars an hour. And yes knowing how to deal with people is a skill. Especially dealing with Disney Guests. I don't envy CM's at all when it comes to this.
 

stitch131313

New Member
Originally posted by blackride
Its also dangerous for a person at Burger King to use hot oils. Should they get hazard pay and make $20.00 per hour?

That would be nice. I work at a Chick-Fil-A and I wouldn't mind some hazard pay.:lol: :lol:
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
While the CMs are worth a lot more than they get paid, I don't really sense that the small amount they are paid has greatly decreased the quality of the CMs. I would say 80% of them were fantastic during my trip, which is not bad for a company of 50,000+ CMs. The jobs do not require any level of education, not even a high school diploma (that I know of). That is why the pay is so low. If you go to college and get a degree, you can still work for Disney at the professional level and make much more money. While non-professional CMs are underpaid, you aren't going to find many jobs, in general, that pay a fortune without requiring some level of education. I work as a teaching assistant at my university, which does require a certain level of college education, and am only now, heading into my 2nd year teaching, getting a $0.35 raise to $6.10/hour. I would gladly work at Disney for $6.70/hour. Regardless, it seems like the sit-down restaurants are the places to work--A/C, $2.50/hour plus those massive tips that people leave behind...I didn't realize they got to keep their own tips--good deal. We would all love to see the CMs get paid more, but it's a bit more complicated, I would guess, when you have 50,000 employees to give any substantial raise, as that would cause a subsequent raise in park ticket prices and Resort rates, which guests complain about. You have to find a balance between not making guests feel ripped off and being able to keep a stable work force, which they do a pretty good job of.
 

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