How many people can fit in Oga’s Cantina? How much is the Disneyland bar raking in? Let’s look at the math - OCR/SCNG

Disney Irish

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For sure it’ll be packed for a while. Alcohol+ Star Wars cantina (one of the few things they’re for right in the land minus the seating issue) = packed.

Yeah many (not saying you) predicted Tropical Hideaway was going to be this huge AP hangout. Don’t get wrong, it’s well done but cafeteria baos, dole whips and Rosita aren’t going to keep anyone over there for more than 20 minutes. AP or not. Not sure why anyone thought it would be a draw outside of a 20 minute rest stop when there is so much else to do at DL. Like you said alcohol is the big difference maker.
I think people saw Tropical Hideaway as the next potential Blue (Purple or whatever color it is this week) Wall. Basically that the younger APs would use it as their blogging and instagram HQ.
 

Touchdown

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The cantina is the part of SWGE that most feels like Star Wars. I’m not a drinker, but the non alcoholic drinks are really good (carbon freeze is my favorite although hyperdrive is good too) and the blue bantha, besides not being a slushee is infinitely better because the cookie is delicious. I also really like Ogas obsession, having Bolba balls in jello makes for a great and refreshing treat and the pop rocks provide an extra kick. I expect it to be packed for a long time.
 

mickEblu

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The Cantina needs food and soft drinks that are reasonably priced.

What’s not to love about an overly sweet alcoholic beverage? I’m pretty sure it will be a one and done for me unless they introduce some decent snacks/ food. Can you sit there and not buy anything?
 
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Darkbeer1

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>>Savi’s Workshop could be raking in more than $100,000 per day and stands to make more than $20 million in its first year of operation, according to theme park experts. But more on those mind-boggling numbers in a bit.

The popular lightsaber-building experience has been doing bang-up business in the the new themed land at the Anaheim theme park.

Merchandise sales from Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge are exceeding expectations, Disneyland officials said.

“Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has set a new standard for the theme park experience,” Disneyland spokesperson Liz Jaeger said.<<
 

TP2000

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>>A little sign over the door just inside Oga’s Cantina tells us a lot about how many people can fit in the new Disneyland bar and how much money the Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge watering hole is raking in every day.

The posted maximum occupancy for the wretched hive of scum and villainy in new Star Wars land at the Anaheim theme park is 276 people.

That means Oga’s Cantina could be raking in nearly $200,000 per day and stands to haul in as much as $70 million in its first year of operation, according to theme park experts. But more on those mind-blowing numbers in a bit.

The Star Wars cantina slinging pricey space cocktails has been doing gangbusters business in the new themed land at Disneyland.

Food and beverage sales from Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge are exceeding expectations, Disneyland officials said.

“Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has set a new standard for the theme park experience,” Disneyland spokesperson Liz Jaeger said.<<

I think this is dramatically overstating the daily visitation and potential sales of this bar. Sure the fire department occupancy sign is 276, but I can't see how they'd get more than 100 customers in there at a time.

There's six banquettes that seat six people. 36 Seats.
There's six tall table tops that could host six people each. 36 Standing.
There's the actual circular bar that has no barstools but could accomodate about two dozen shoulder-to-shoulder. 24 Standing.

That's 96 people, but let's just round up to 100.

In this panoramic photo of the crowded Cantina, we can see 46 customers standing, plus six CM's working behind the bar. Let's assume all the banquettes are full and there's 36 people sitting who are blocked from view by all the people standing. That gets you 82 people. Let's also assume there's 18 additional customers standing in back corners and off camera, or maybe they're just short or are bent over tying their shoes, and you get to 100 customers in this crowded bar.

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(And yes, I counted the small child learning about cocktail science in the lower right hand corner)

But let's just inflate that number even further and say you could cram 138 customers in here at any one time, which would get you half of the maximum fire capacity of 276. That would net you exactly one half of the financial figures based on the fire capacity, so you're really looking at $100,000 per day and only $35 Million in sales per year.

So no wonder Mr. Chapek is in such a panic and is cutting the budgets on everything; after he pays the $15 an hour bartenders and the supplier of all that cheap grain alcohol and fructose syrup, he's probably only netting $25 Million per year from his Cantina! Mr. Chapek should set up a gofundme just to keep his 401K topped off, as he's no spring chicken.
 
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Curious Constance

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>>Savi’s Workshop could be raking in more than $100,000 per day and stands to make more than $20 million in its first year of operation, according to theme park experts. But more on those mind-boggling numbers in a bit.

The popular lightsaber-building experience has been doing bang-up business in the the new themed land at the Anaheim theme park.

Merchandise sales from Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge are exceeding expectations, Disneyland officials said.

“Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has set a new standard for the theme park experience,” Disneyland spokesperson Liz Jaeger said.<<
I guess we can just safety assume from now on only bars and stores will be added to the parks.

Although, I wouldn’t count on Star Wars droid and lightsaber building to always be as popular as it is now. I’m sure once they’ve met initial demand it’ll start evening out.
 

Old Mouseketeer

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For now they are, with a packed bar, once its not so packed, what's the return rate? 1/2 for $35mm? 1/3, 1/4? just like any resturant/ bar they will have to figure out where the real long term profit point is going to be. Assuming adding a themed bar to someplace as an automatic 'cash cow' is lazy thinking and for whatever fault Disney leadership may have lazy profit thinking isn't one of them.

But they already have the metrics for this. And I guarantee you they know to the penny how much revenue they will add for every category of food service. I think the trickiest calculation is how expanding alcohol in DL, but how it will impact DCA and DTD. But I think it's a net gain. It certainly won't double alcohol sales--that's ridiculous. But do they see an increase of 10% or 20% or more? OTOH, they can compare to the numbers from WDW when Magic Kingdom added and then expanded alcohol sales.
 

mandelbrot

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Yeah that’s what everyone said about Tropical hideaway and it didn’t happen. Which I predicted correctly.

The whole park is an AP hangout. If a particular spot is packed it’s because they re doing something right... or selling alcohol. And lobster nachos.
If Tropical Hideaway had booze it would be packed at all times and there would be a long line to get in. AP's love booze.
 

Mickeyboof

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I think this is dramatically overstating the daily visitation and potential sales of this bar. Sure the fire department occupancy sign is 276, but I can't see how they'd get more than 100 customers in there at a time.

There's six banquettes that seat six people. 36 Seats.
There's six tall table tops that could host six people each. 36 Standing.
There's the actual circular bar that has no barstools but could accomodate about two dozen shoulder-to-shoulder. 24 Standing.

That's 96 people, but let's just round up to 100.

In this panoramic photo of the crowded Cantina, we can see 46 customers standing, plus six CM's working behind the bar. Let's assume all the banquettes are full and there's 36 people sitting who are blocked from view by all the people standing. That gets you 82 people. Let's also assume there's 18 additional customers standing in back corners and off camera, or maybe they're just short or are bent over tying their shoes, and you get to 100 customers in this crowded bar.

ogas-cantina-galaxys-edge-5-800x533.jpg


(And yes, I counted the small child learning about cocktail science in the lower right hand corner)

But let's just inflate that number even further and say you could cram 138 customers in here at any one time, which would get you half of the maximum fire capacity of 276. That would net you exactly one half of the financial figures based on the fire capacity, so you're really looking at $100,000 per day and only $35 Million in sales per year.

So no wonder Mr. Chapek is in such a panic and is cutting the budgets on everything; after he pays the $15 an hour bartenders and the supplier of all that cheap grain alcohol and fructose syrup, he's probably only netting $25 Million per year from his Cantina! Mr. Chapek should set up a gofundme just to keep his 401K topped off, as he's no spring chicken.

And let’s not forget, not everyone in there is buying two drinks. Or even one.

Our waiter was way to disinterested (and vocally told us he was “over the whole thing”) to maintain the drink minimums declared at the door.

Bright suns, or whatever.
 

mickEblu

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If Tropical Hideaway had booze it would be packed at all times and there would be a long line to get in. AP's love booze.

Most everyone loves booze.

APs love Disneyland. That’s why the have an AP. Disneyland is full of APs on any given day. Everything after that is redundant to say. It’s like saying the Catholic Church had a bunch of Catholics going up to the altar to take Communion.
 

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