How long do the mobs last when new lands open?

crazgurl

crazgurl

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Been a while since I posted! We are casually discussing our next trip to WDW. We are thinking either May 2020 or the anniversary in 2021 (my 35th birthday is October 1st). We definitely want to see the new lands, including Star wars land. I'm assuming the madness seen at Avatar Land will pale in comparison to Toy Story land, which in turn will be nothing compared to the mania that will surround Star Wars Land. Any guesses as to how many months before things run smoothly? I know its a bit vague, but I mean where they dont need overflow lines to get into the land and fastpass bookings arent impossible to get, and arriving for rope drop means being able to do any attraction with a maximum of lets say 45 minutes wait if you go straight to it. I'm having flashbacks to my 2009 trip where Midway Mania was impossible to get near no matter what we did with the old fastpass system selling out in minutes daily.
 
Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

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When I went in Jan/Feb 2018 I was hoping for a slow down to Pandora. Even after 10 months of it being open it was still at 195 min wait for Flight of Passage and 120 for River Journey...It's such a different environment compared to several years ago now that everything is IP Driven it's just making it busier and busier..
 
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LUVofDIS

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crazgurl said:
I'm assuming the madness seen at Avatar Land will pale in comparison to Toy Story land, which in turn will be nothing compared to the mania that will surround Star Wars Land.
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I don't feel that TSL will be as big as Pandora, I think it will slow down a little faster. Though I wont be there until the end of September, I think that both rides in Pandora blow away the two new rides in TSL. Even though Navi River Journey, to me at least, isn't that great. it's cool to see, but, and again this is my feeling, any wait greater than fifteen minutes just isn't worth it. Galaxy's Edge will take much longer to die down than both Pandora and TSL. The Anniversary year I think will be even busier than 2020.
 
crazgurl

crazgurl

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LUVofDIS said:
I don't feel that TSL will be as big as Pandora, I think it will slow down a little faster. Though I wont be there until the end of September, I think that both rides in Pandora blow away the two new rides in TSL. Even though Navi River Journey, to me at least, isn't that great. it's cool to see, but, and again this is my feeling, any wait greater than fifteen minutes just isn't worth it. Galaxy's Edge will take much longer to die down than both Pandora and TSL. The Anniversary year I think will be even busier than 2020.
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That's my fear. We would really love to spend my birthday celebrating with MK. We went for the 45th and really enjoyed the experience despite the heat and rain on the 1st! I'm extremely torn between spending my 35th or doing May the 4th/Cinko de mayo taco tuesday 2020, really not sure which one will be crazier. We are Canadian, so the dollar will also play a role in this, it gets expensive fast when you tack on the exchange rate and we wouldn't want crowd levels to make it impossible to do the things we want to do.
 
JohnyKaz2078

JohnyKaz2078

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crazgurl said:
Been a while since I posted! We are casually discussing our next trip to WDW. We are thinking either May 2020 or the anniversary in 2021 (my 35th birthday is October 1st). We definitely want to see the new lands, including Star wars land. I'm assuming the madness seen at Avatar Land will pale in comparison to Toy Story land, which in turn will be nothing compared to the mania that will surround Star Wars Land. Any guesses as to how many months before things run smoothly? I know its a bit vague, but I mean where they dont need overflow lines to get into the land and fastpass bookings arent impossible to get, and arriving for rope drop means being able to do any attraction with a maximum of lets say 45 minutes wait if you go straight to it. I'm having flashbacks to my 2009 trip where Midway Mania was impossible to get near no matter what we did with the old fastpass system selling out in minutes daily.
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It will take VERY LONG for the hype about Galaxy's Edge to die down. The excitement about Pandora is still here despite being open for more than a year. Flight of Passage in particular is still very very popular with 150min+ waits even on less crowded days. TSL will probably become less popular quicker than Pandora, but, at least until SW:GE opens, is going to be the crowd magnet in DHS. I would recommend May 2020 since the mania about Pandora and TSL will have faded and it will be less difficult (slightly) with SW:GE since some months will have passed from opening. I recommend 2020 because I have a feeling that the anniversary year will be super-super-crowded. But if you want to see Gotg and Tron go in 2021.
 
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LUVofDIS

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From my experience and from what I hear and read, crowd levels have been steadily increasing since 2011. There seems to be no real slow season in WDW anymore. This will probably continue until the next major economic downturn. So I am torn, I want lower crowd levels but I do not want an economic slowing. By the way this is an understatement, I would definitely rather have good economic times than low crowd levels, things like this need to be stated because I know what some posters would say to this.

So even though I think there will be lower crowds in 2020 than in 2019 or 2021, the word "lower" is a stretch of the word. It will probably still be busier than 2018.

Of course, I have been predicting a financial down turn for 2018, that has not happened. My theory got shot with the little adrenaline the tax cuts shot into the US economy. I think that will subside come 2019 or 2020. If it does than crowds could be lower those years or even by 2021 as it takes time to show effect. Also trips will already have been planned.

I am just talking with a lot of hot air. My point is that crowd levels could change because of forces outside of Disney's power. Yes, Disney does not control everything, hard to believe but it is true.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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Just go when it's convenient for you and crowd calendars aren't putting those days 'in the red zone.' There's always something new coming. You either snag FPs for the new thing that's mobbed, or, ignore it and get it your next trip. Coming up are:

By 2022 you will have:
DAK
  • Flight of Passage
  • Excavator rollercoaster replacing DinoRama (rumored, don't hold your breath)
Epcot
  • Guardians
  • New Illuminations
  • Ratatouille
  • Mary Poppins Ride (rumored, but highly likely)
  • Space restaurant
  • in 2022, Epcot's 40th, so, maybe some of the central spine renovation will be done
DHS
  • Star Wars Land (with all the shops and restaurants)
  • Millennium Falcon Ride
  • Battle Escape Ride
  • Mickey & Minnie Runaway Railway
  • Toy Story Land
  • A new show (replacing Belle or Ariel, a somewhat likely rumor)
  • Star Tours new scene from Ep 9
  • New Indy ride (somewhat likely rumor)
  • Cars "show attraction" in Sunset Showcase (lower your expectations, here)
MK
  • New nighttime parade
  • Update Fireworks to celebrate 50 years
  • TRON Lightcycle
  • TRON Speedway
  • Stitch replacement
  • Tomorrowland's exterior finally completely refurbished
 
winstongator

winstongator

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JohnD said:
I think SDD will be the 7DMT of HS. Right now it’s dealikg with the “new” factor but it will never lose its popularity being a family ride. I think you can expect it to always having a long standby wait time. Maybe 70-95 minutes on average.
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Agree. When GE opens, SDD will be my 5th favorite ride there, maybe 6th. 7dmt is probably my 4th fave in the MK, and the reason I either fp or rope drop is because of its lines being longer than Space, big thunder or splash. For younger kids or fast coaster non-riders, it’ll be very popular as 7dmt is. Not everyone wants to do space, big thunder or rock n roller coaster, but a bigger number of people will ride 7dmt & sdd. The fastpass situation is almost self-fulfilling. People get them because they’re hard to get, because people get them...
 
winstongator

winstongator

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MisterPenguin said:
Just go when it's convenient for you and crowd calendars aren't putting those days 'in the red zone.' There's always something new coming. You either snag FPs for the new thing that's mobbed, or, ignore it and get it your next trip. Coming up are:

By 2022 you will have:
DAK
  • Flight of Passage
  • Excavator rollercoaster replacing DinoRama (rumored, don't hold your breath)
Epcot
  • Guardians
  • New Illuminations
  • Ratatouille
  • Mary Poppins Ride (rumored, but highly likely)
  • Space restaurant
  • in 2022, Epcot's 40th, so, maybe some of the central spine renovation will be done
DHS
  • Star Wars Land (with all the shops and restaurants)
  • Millennium Falcon Ride
  • Battle Escape Ride
  • Mickey & Minnie Runaway Railway
  • Toy Story Land
  • A new show (replacing Belle or Ariel, a somewhat likely rumor)
  • Star Tours new scene from Ep 9
  • New Indy ride (somewhat likely rumor)
  • Cars "show attraction" in Sunset Showcase (lower your expectations, here)
MK
  • New nighttime parade
  • Update Fireworks to celebrate 50 years
  • TRON Lightcycle
  • TRON Speedway
  • Stitch replacement
  • Tomorrowland's exterior finally completely refurbished
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There's a lot of 'Disney's not what it used to be talk'. Whenever I hear that, I think of everything new that will have been added from 2012-2022, then think of what was added from 2002-2012, or other 10 year periods. As much as the Guardians coaster might not fit Future World's theme, it will be good to have a new top-line attraction. Will Tron, Guardians, & Galaxy's Edge draw people from Pandora, or just draw more people to WDW? It's possible FoP loses its longest-line status but the length of the line doesn't go down.
 
DarthVader

DarthVader

Sith Lord
I think its going to be well over a year before some things balance out, part of the problem is the quick succession of toy story land and star wars land opening up back to back.
 

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