How does Space 220 work these days?

[nickys]

It sounds like this is another one where I wish Disney would have a maximum number of visits per month threshold so the same resort guests aren't eating up all the reservations (multiple times per week), totally blocking out non resort guests.

I doubt people are doing that, not at those prices. We’re not interested in the prix fixe menu, so just want the Lounge so we can see it. I suspect that’s true for a lot of people.
It’s new and novel, it’s bound to be popular.
The walk-up queue is also an option for everyone.

 

[donsullivan]

I doubt people are doing that, not at those prices. We’re not interested in the prix fixe menu, so just want the Lounge so we can see it. I suspect that’s true for a lot of people.
It’s new and novel, it’s bound to be popular.
The walk-up queue is also an option for everyone.

A poster just above mine appeared to say they had successfully gotten 3 reservations during a week. especially now that the restaurant has been open for over a year.

That approach reduces the number of unique guests who have the opportunity to experience the restaurant.

I fully understand that Disney has no incentive to change anything since they appear to be 100% booked so while making a change might allow new guests to experience Space 220, it will not add any new capacity so the revenue impact is likely $0.00

 

[Tuvalu]

A poster just above mine appeared to say they had successfully gotten 3 reservations during a week. especially now that the restaurant has been open for over a year.

That approach reduces the number of unique guests who have the opportunity to experience the restaurant.

I fully understand that Disney has no incentive to change anything since they appear to be 100% booked so while making a change might allow new guests to experience Space 220, it will not add any new capacity so the revenue impact is likely $0.00

It’s unlikely that poster intends to eat/drink at Space 220 all three times. It is common for some people to make multiple ADRs in order to have “options” during their vacation (not me, I think this is a very selfish practice.) Then they will cancel the ADRs they don’t use so not to incur the $10/pp charge.

That’s why it can be easier to obtain a Space 220 ADR the day before or same day rather than 60+ days out. Thank the cancellations.

 

[donsullivan]

It’s unlikely that poster intends to eat/drink at Space 220 all three times. It is common for some people to make multiple ADRs in order to have “options” during their vacation (not me, I think this is a very selfish practice.) Then they will cancel the ADRs they don’t use so not to incur the $10/pp charge.

That’s why it can be easier to obtain a Space 220 ADR the day before or same day rather than 60+ days out. Thank the cancellations.

Booking multiple reservations 'in case' you might want it has always struck me as selfish behavior since you are 'holding' reservations that others might have actually used for your own personal convenience without regard to the fact you are preventing another guest from experiencing it.

I know I will not change the mind of anyone here as 'most' care only about their experience, but all of these sorts of behaviors are what trigger things like cancellation fees, and will likely trigger even more penalties over time.

 

[nickys]

How recently were you able to get a walk-up? Do you know if it was after they announced that they would take reservations for the lounge?

Just seen this.

They have a physical queue for virtual walk-ups! It opens at about 10:30 / 10:45 and you get put on a wait list and texted when there’s a table. Could be at the bar or a table from what I hear.

Return times vary but around 2 hours seems to be typical.

 

[nickys]

A poster just above mine appeared to say they had successfully gotten 3 reservations during a week. especially now that the restaurant has been open for over a year.

That approach reduces the number of unique guests who have the opportunity to experience the restaurant.

I fully understand that Disney has no incentive to change anything since they appear to be 100% booked so while making a change might allow new guests to experience Space 220, it will not add any new capacity so the revenue impact is likely $0.00

I didn’t read it like that, unless the post has been deleted?

Edit: seems I was focussing on the wrong post!

 

[networkpro]

It’s unlikely that poster intends to eat/drink at Space 220 all three times. It is common for some people to make multiple ADRs in order to have “options” during their vacation (not me, I think this is a very selfish practice.) Then they will cancel the ADRs they don’t use so not to incur the $10/pp charge.

That’s why it can be easier to obtain a Space 220 ADR the day before or same day rather than 60+ days out. Thank the cancellations.

As the poster, yes we will eat there three times. Currently, the quality of the food outshines any other location in Epcot. It's cool and dark but the screens are so cheesy. Don't fall for your waiter/waitress's recommendation to watch the lightsaber fight, you will be sadly disappointed.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I have given up that as a local I'll ever have the chance to experience Space 220. Since they do not hold any reservations back from the 60+10 window for resort guests, the place is always 100% booked thus excluding all but Disney Resort guests from a normal planned in-advance reservation to experience it. While I get that most here believe that resort guests should get 'privilege' and all others are second-class citizens, I've never been a fan of that resulting in completely excluding all other guests from experiencing something like this. And since the restaurant is clearly at 100% occupancy, Disney doesn't really care. /End Whine

You can usually get in if you go first thing and put your name in

 

[DCLcruiser]

I have given up that as a local I'll ever have the chance to experience Space 220. Since they do not hold any reservations back from the 60+10 window for resort guests, the place is always 100% booked thus excluding all but Disney Resort guests from a normal planned in-advance reservation to experience it. While I get that most here believe that resort guests should get 'privilege' and all others are second-class citizens, I've never been a fan of that resulting in completely excluding all other guests from experiencing something like this. And since the restaurant is clearly at 100% occupancy, Disney doesn't really care. /End Whine

I was able to get a Space 220 Lounge reservation for 8:30 PM (end of November) using MouseWatcher. We are off-site guests. It took about a week or so, but then I got the text and quickly clicked the link to book it.

 

[Bairstow]

I was able to get a Space 220 Lounge reservation for 8:30 PM (end of November) using MouseWatcher. We are off-site guests. It took about a week or so, but then I got the text and quickly clicked the link to book it.

If you're willing to eat during Harmonious availability shouldn't be that much of a problem. We walked right in one evening last month and the place looked half-empty.

 

[networkpro]

Dont forget there was a recent menu change. A few items have vanished like the seafood bolognese and the tuna items have changed.

The video walls remain the same.

 

[Minthorne]

That’s why it can be easier to obtain a Space 220 ADR the day before or same day rather than 60+ days out. Thank the cancellations.

Did anyone else automatically say "They invented it!" ?

 

[DCLcruiser]

If you're willing to eat during Harmonious availability shouldn't be that much of a problem. We walked right in one evening last month and the place looked half-empty.

Since it is our only day at EPCOT we will want to see Harmonious for the first (and I guess last) time. 8:30 at the lounge should let us out to see it by 9:30.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Does anyone know if they're going to make me order a meal for my two year old? My three kids (8, 5, 2) will have no problem sharing two kids' meals between them, but I know sometimes prix fixe places are strict that every person must order a meal. I'm hoping it won't apply to a toddler.

 

[Chi84]

Does anyone know if they're going to make me order a meal for my two year old? My three kids (8, 5, 2) will have no problem sharing two kids' meals between them, but I know sometimes prix fixe places are strict that every person must order a meal. I'm hoping it won't apply to a toddler.

I wonder when Disney completely removed child pricing from their website - both at the individual restaurants and in their general help section. The prix fixe restaurants used to state the adult price and then a price for children along with the age range. Now they just state adult pricing. The actual children's menu has a price, but no age range for the child.

I can tell you that we went to Storybook Dining in April and I clarified with both the hostess who asked for the children's ages and the server that our 2-year-old would be eating off of our plates. He was fine with it. But we booked at a time when the website clearly stated the child's age range as 3 through 9.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I wonder when Disney completely removed child pricing from their website - both at the individual restaurants and in their general help section. The prix fixe restaurants used to state the adult price and then a price for children along with the age range. Now they just state adult pricing. The actual children's menu has a price, but no age range for the child.

I think the age range is more at buffets than at prix fixe where you order off a menu. When I go to Boma, me and my kids eat the same food, I just eat more of it. At Space 220, it's a totally different list of entrees. I think they'd be okay with a 13 year old ordering off the kids menu because they're going to have spaghetti and a meatball, not tuna nicoise and steak.

 

[Chi84]

I think the age range is more at buffets than at prix fixe where you order off a menu. When I go to Boma, me and my kids eat the same food, I just eat more of it. At Space 220, it's a totally different list of entrees. I think they'd be okay with a 13 year old ordering off the kids menu because they're going to have spaghetti and a meatball, not tuna nicoise and steak.

But the website has eliminated the age ranges/definition of child from character buffets (Chef Mickey's, Tusker House). Do you think they'll start charging 1 and 2 year olds the child's price? Are parents of 10-year-olds going to be able to choose the child's pricing because their kid doesn't eat much. People at least knew who was going to be charged and what price when it was stated clearly on the website. If that information is there, it's not anywhere I could find it easily. Don't have time to do an in-depth search now, but this is not a change I heard about - it's possible I just missed it.

They’re making updates now. Possibly just a glitch about child’s pricing not showing.

 

[nickys]

Does anyone know if they're going to make me order a meal for my two year old? My three kids (8, 5, 2) will have no problem sharing two kids' meals between them, but I know sometimes prix fixe places are strict that every person must order a meal. I'm hoping it won't apply to a toddler.

Under 3s don’t pay for meals. They can share your meal.

Unless you choose to order them something separately of course, then you’d probably have to pay (although I have heard some people say they got say Mac and cheese or chicken strips free.

 

[LittleMerman]

Still no luck with Space 220 =(