Hollywood Studios - major issues.

[danyoung56]

Respectfully have to disagree with you --I like Muppet vision and I like Beauty and the Beast.

Another vote in favor of both shows. And I've been known to wait and let the Muppet theater load, just so I can wander around the lobby by myself (and also see the entire pre-show - CAN'T WAIT now that Constantine has been taken out!).

 

[ppete1975]

Hollywood Studios was our first park of our holiday, and while I had a great time regardless it has some major issues.

1) the park layout is a nightmare, you double back on yourself causing just a mess of crowds.

2) Muppet vision is boring and the waiting area is a nightmare.

3) beauty and the beast is not great and is out dated.

4) the merch is all over the place.

5) TSL feels unfinished.

6) the lines for fantasmic are confusing!

you lost all credibility when you said muppet vision is boring....
totally kidding.. I love the muppets and this ride I wouldn't mind it being cleaned up and updated a bit, the reason most of us don't call for that though is we love what it is and the muppet presence, and in todays climate if they closed it for updating it wouldn't reopen it would be torn down or replaced.
for 1 and 4 that's because its a park under construction it really is half done after having half of it ripped apart but when star wars opens and mickey plus I'm sure a little more extras it will be better. Honestly lots of it needs to be replaced such as some of the shows and in my opinion Indiana jones.. but they had to keep some of the park there as it would have been to costly to just close the entire park as it is reimagined. I'm guessing as soon as star wars opens they will work on some of the lower attraction things then when the crowds die down in a few years remove star tours and indy and replace them with other things. Then a retheme of RNR
I look at tsl totally different than most. First ignore the price tag (Disney costs make no sense and they spend 100x what they should) imagine this as b ticket like the carousel or the original teacups. Yes its themed as a land but its more of a few rides to eat up time while you are going to the main rides which will be mickey, tower, rnr, star wars, star tours everything else is just fun extras to spread out the crowd. For this I think it succeeded.

 

[ColdSarsaparilla]

Love Muppet Vision, but I have to admit, it's pretty funny that the tourists featured at the very end of the film are so outdated that those late 80s-early 90s styles they're sporting are actually back in.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Major Issues

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[World_Showcase_Lover007]

Can’t disagree about the layout, as it is dreadful. Eisner’s shortsighteness in opening the park early has hurt it ever since.

 

[Jon81uk]

Can’t disagree about the layout, as it is dreadful. Eisner’s shortsighteness in opening the park early has hurt it ever since.

I don't think the poor layout has that much to do with the early opening and more to do with the attempt to open movie studio in Florida that no-one wanted to film at. Once there was no filming and the studio changed to a theme park they were stuck with the worst of both worlds, a small theme park area and a former movie studio area that is difficult to convert to a decent theme park.

 

[disneygeek90]

I don't care for Muppets but to be fair I was never into the IP growing up. BatB I still enjoy seeing.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

Disney Studios is a theme park study in multiple personality disorder. I support it, I'm here for love. But the poor thing just can't get it together. And it never really will, but maybe that's what keeps it... Disney Studios at the Walt Disney World Resort in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

 

[geekza]

The original Studios were a great place to film game shows... and that's about it. Initially, there were tax breaks for filming in Florida, but those went away. Also, most productions aren't keen on tourists constantly walking by on catwalks all day. Add to that the fact that Florida is a Right to Work state and they couldn't get the skilled technicians and production staff that they could get elsewhere. It was doomed from the start. It wasn't only Disney that made the same mistakes, though. Universal did the same thing. They just got rid of their working studio facade a lot sooner than Disney did. The only reason Disney/MGM Studios was built was as a panicked reaction to Universal moving in next door. It was thrown together in a hurry and, when it opened, had very little that the average guest wanted to experience. Heck, they've been playing catch-up on that ever since. It was a great idea for a park... in California. Unfortunately, Disney didn't have land around their studio in California where they could build a theme park, unlike Universal. Also, most of their live-action stuff isn't even filmed on the Disney Studios property. They got rid of their backlot and only have a couple of soundstages.

TL/DR Eisner had a big ego and generally terrible ideas.

 

[LUVofDIS]

3) beauty and the beast is not great and is out dated.

How dare you call it outdated, it is, wait for it.... Tale as old as time, tune as old as song. See, as old as time. It is never outdated. Shame on you.

Anyway, I love HS, it is getting a makeover currently, an awesome attraction has been removed, but I always have it's memory. I am glad to see it being updated as a whole. There will be things liked, things missed and things, well not so liked. I guess, just a little change, small to say the least, both a little scared, neither one prepared, Disney and it guests.

 

[Goofnut1980]

Can someone explain why HS wasn't built with Hub and Spoke like the other parks. It was always a big V shape.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Can someone explain why HS wasn't built with Hub and Spoke like the other parks. It was always a big V shape.

From Wikipedia, "The park's original layout featured a large Hidden Mickey, which was visible in aerial photographs of the park and on the park's early guide maps".

That may have been a factor.

 

[Goofnut1980]

From Wikipedia, "The park's original layout featured a large Hidden Mickey, which was visible in aerial photographs of the park and on the park's early guide maps".

That may have been a factor.

oh yea.. I forgot about that! lol
Now you just have a half Mickey... or a Mick...

 

[LUVofDIS]

Can someone explain why HS wasn't built with Hub and Spoke like the other parks. It was always a big V shape.

It may have had something to do with the theater being part of the grand entrance, you could still have a hub I guess, just like the castle, but you wouldn't be as forced to walk to the theater.

I know you could still walk down the side streets, dam it, I don't know, I am just guessing.

 

[Jon81uk]

Can someone explain why HS wasn't built with Hub and Spoke like the other parks. It was always a big V shape.

Beacause it wasn't built as a theme park. It was a movie studios with the great movie ride at the front.

As the park was then changed from a working studio tour to a theme park, they adapted what they had.

 

[danyoung56]

Beacause it wasn't built as a theme park. It was a movie studios with the great movie ride at the front.

As the park was then changed from a working studio tour to a theme park, they adapted what they had.

Sorry, but I disagree. It was ALWAYS touted as a theme park with a movie/tv show making aspect. That aspect didn't work out and eventually closed, leaving the theme park element without a theme.

 

[Jon81uk]

Sorry, but I disagree. It was ALWAYS touted as a theme park with a movie/tv show making aspect. That aspect didn't work out and eventually closed, leaving the theme park element without a theme.

Yes but the layout of the park and the reason why it has dead ends and doesn't work right now is because the original tram tour loaded outside what is now animation courtyard and the little mermaid show. If it had been designed as a theme park first then we may have got a more workable hub/spoke layout.

 

[danyoung56]

I will go this far - there were things they could have done to make the design and crowd flow better.

 

[yaksplat]

My biggest gripe is that the the largest hidden mickey is no longer.

 

[UpAllNight]

They’ve done nothing in nearly 20 years in this park. Toy Story Mania is literally the only major e-ticket attraction since 2000 in one of the top 10 visited theme parks in the world. Is it really any surprise it’s in the shape it’s in?

Atleast they’re trying to fix things but I don’t think they’ve gone far enough.

The show situation is beyond ridiculous and actually makes me not want to spend the money to get in as it feels like a bad joke (on us...the fools that keep paying 3 decades later)

They don’t seem to be prepping this park for the influx of crowds, in either attractions or infrastructure.