Hmmm...wonder if this story is totally factual or not? if it is, must be a wonderful time to visit Disney World with shorter wait times right now!

[Disstevefan1]

I believe attendance is down but I also think your standby wait times may vary and may not reflect the lower attendance.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Well people try to splain it away with “it was always expensive…”

I disagree…it was never “cheap”…those are distinctly different assessments

It’s been death by a thousand cuts.

And even if you subscribe (to make yourself feel special) to the “it’s luxury now…” that’s not what it looks like…

There is a distinct flavor when you have cuts…or at a minimum “expense rationing” combined with increases. It looks like a store/product that is fighting off bankruptcy…

Doesn’t instill the “Rolex” kinda feel…

With the way AA’s are breaking down, more like a Swatch watch…

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Ha! Throw in a "free" dining plan and I'm in!

How about some Kohl’s cash? Maybe I can use it to buy a Disney shirt or two…

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

How about some Kohl’s cash? Maybe I can use it to buy a Disney shirt or two…

 

[Disstevefan1]

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Looks like the Tiger King.

 

[Stripes]

A $200 concert doesn't usually require air, hotel and $$$ food.

This simply speaks to the total cost of a vacation, not the value of Disney’s product.

You have to eat food as a human being and you are even allowed to bring outside food and drinks into the parks unlike most concerts, where food and drinks must be purchased at their concessions.

When you go out of town, you usually have to pay for hotel and flights, including an out-of-town concert. I’ve been on several out-of-town vacations where we went to some pretty expensive concerts. From Vegas to New York. And yes, flights and hotel were added expenses.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

None of this negates the value comparison from a guest’s perspective. Consumers don’t evaluate experiences based on how often the business is open—they evaluate what they get for what they spend. A $200 concert ticket for a two-hour show delivers just a few hours of entertainment. A $180 Disney ticket, on the other hand, provides 10–12 hours of world-class attractions, live performances, and immersive environments.

The fact that Disney runs 365 days a year actually strengthens its value proposition: despite the constant operation and immense upkeep required, it continues to offer a consistently high-quality experience for roughly the same price range as a single evening event. Limited-time events like concerts or games can charge more because they’re scarce, but scarcity doesn’t translate to a better value from a consumer perspective—it simply justifies a higher price point.

Ultimately, the comparison isn’t about how often something runs—it’s about what a guest receives in return for their time and money. By that measure, Disney delivers substantially more entertainment, variety, and emotional impact per dollar than concerts or sporting events. And while Disney is more expensive than some other vacation options, I would argue that the value received per dollar remains greater at Disney than most other vacation offerings. Although an imperfect comparison of guest value, Royal Caribbean’s cruise business has a significantly higher operating margin than Disney’s domestic Experiences business, as just one example.

Obviously people find value in Disney vacations, otherwise revenue wouldn’t be setting new all-time records at Walt Disney World. I was at the resorts yesterday, and I’m hearing every accent known to man. These people have paid quite a bit to fly around the world to be here. I had a chat with a few of them. All of them were having a great time. For a British couple, it was their first visit. They were already dreading leaving and will be planning another trip soon! They said it was the best vacation they’d ever had.

I’m not gonna bother reading this essay…

Concerts and sports are not comparable to Disney trips

Everytime someone tries it…it gets blown to pieces.

Try cruise ships next time…might have a shot there

 

[Stripes]

Everytime someone tries it…it gets blown to pieces.

Does it? I wish you were able to do so yourself. Because I’d love to hear how someone finds more value in a $200 concert ticket in Vegas than a $180 Disney ticket.

Try cruise ships next time…might have a shot there

You’re in luck! See below.

And while Disney is more expensive than some other vacation options, I would argue that the value received per dollar remains greater at Disney than most other vacation offerings. Although an imperfect comparison of guest value, Royal Caribbean’s cruise business has a higher operating margin than Disney’s domestic Experiences business, as just one example.

Obviously people find value in Disney vacations, otherwise revenue wouldn’t be setting new all-time records at Walt Disney World. I was at the resorts yesterday, and I’m hearing every accent known to man. These people have paid quite a bit to fly around the world to be here. I had a chat with a few of them. All of them were having a great time. For a British couple, it was their first visit. They were already dreading leaving and will be planning another trip soon! They said it was the best vacation they’d ever had.

 

[Tom P.]

That was Data’s day…I do believe

It was indeed! And I actually really like that particular red alert moment.

Don’t bother with this…sporting events and concerts are not comparisons

Lay off the dust and do better

I hate to disagree with a fellow Trekkie, but yes, they are valid comparisons no matter how many times the anti-pixie dust crowd tries to go "no they aren't; mic drop; conversation over."

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hate to disagree with a fellow Trekkie, but yes, they are valid comparisons no matter how many times the anti-pixie dust crowd tries to go "no they aren't; mic drop; conversation over."

When people travel on average for 7 days with food and lodging for a jets vs titans game…then we’ll talk

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Does it? I wish you were able to do so yourself. Because I’d love to hear how someone finds more value in a $200 concert ticket in Vegas than a $180 Disney ticket.

Yeah…it really does. But you have to understand that the market is based on the total outlay…not “VEGAS SHOWS ARE EXPENSIVE!!”

You’re in luck! See below.

Yeah…that’s an interesting Grok take on it…for sure

 

[Stripes]

Yeah…it really does. But you have to understand that the market is based on the total outlay…not “VEGAS SHOWS ARE EXPENSIVE!!”

You could make the exact same argument about Disney and Universal’s parks, but you choose not to. Why?

Yeah…that’s an interesting Grok take on it…for sure

I wish I could give Grok the credit, but I must admit the credit is all mine. Once again though, I see you are deflecting from providing substantive responses.

 

[lewisc]

When people travel on average for 7 days with food and lodging for a jets vs titans game…then we’ll talk

By the end of the season you'll be able to buy Jet tickets for pocket change

 

[Stripes]

When people travel on average for 7 days with food and lodging for a jets vs titans game…then we’ll talk

When people travel to New York, they never spend 7 days in the city going to sports games, concerts, broadway shows, observation decks, etc. while paying high prices for food and lodging? Might want to rethink that.

I believe the ESB is charging $80/person for access to the observation deck now. Great value, don’t you think?

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Ok, I had season tickets for the Jets for 33 years…so I’m going to compare 1 year of season charges to one week of a Disney vacation for a family of 4…
I’m going to use AVERAGE prices

Tickets: 123.31 x 10 games x 4 seats = 4932.40
2 beers for 2 adults @ 14.00 ea. x 2 = 28.00 x 10 = 280.00
1 hot dog for each child @ 8.00 ea. = 16.00 x 10 games x 2 children = 160.00
1 chicken fingers w/FF for each adult @ 13.00 x 2= 26.00 x 10 games = 260.00
2 sodas @ 7.00 ea. = 14.00 x 10 games = 140.00
2 waters @ 5.00 ea. = 10.00 x10 games = 100.00
Parking @ 25.00 x 10 games = 250.00
Tolls 12.00 x 10 games = 120.00
Gas ( I’m using my Suburban for reference) 50.00 round trip x 10 games = 500.00

TOTALS:
Tix: 4932.40
Food & drink: 940.00
Parking: 250.00
Fuel: 500.00
TOTAL FOR SEASON = 6622.40
I didn’t include extras i.e. ice cream or pretzels…(nor did I include the pain relievers I had to take being a Jets season ticket holder for those 33 years)…

I think the comparison is VERY EQUAL to a week @ WDW

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

By the end of the season you'll be able to buy Jet tickets for pocket change

…bridge year/quarter/half century

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ok, I had season tickets for the Jets for 33 years…so I’m going to compare 1 year of season charges to one week of a Disney vacation for a family of 4…
I’m going to use AVERAGE prices

Tickets: 123.31 x 10 games x 4 seats = 4932.20
2 beers for 2 adults @ 14.00 ea. x 2 = 28.00 x 10 = 280.00
1 hot dog for each child @ 8.00 ea. = 16.00 x 10 games x 2 children = 160.00
1 chicken fingers w/FF for each adult @ 13.00 x 2= 26.00 x 10 games = 260.00
2 sodas @ 7.00 ea. = 14.00 x 10 games = 140.00
2 waters @ 5.00 ea. = 10.00 x10 games = 100.00
Parking @ 25.00 x 10 games = 250.00
Tolls 12.00 x 10 games = 120.00
Gas ( I’m using my Suburban for reference) 50.00 round trip x 10 games = 500.00

TOTALS:
Tix: 4932.20
Food & drink: 940.00
Parking: 250.00
Fuel: 500.00
TOTAL FOR SEASON = 6622.20
I didn’t include extras i.e. ice cream or pretzels…

I think the comparison is VERY EQUAL to a week @ WDW

That’s one day a week for 4 months…

You don’t have to stay ontop of the east Rutherford dump and buy food the other six days a week.

I don’t get why this is such a huge issue?…weeklong destinations have to price based on the duration of the trip…which is what they WANT. This isn’t a new concept…it’s Been 40+ years…

What happened is they look bad with these price increases…its tone def…it doesn’t help them financially…

And the Swiss guard rushes to the defense. It’s not “better than…” anything…they jacked the prices and people are rightfully upset. No sense in trying to spin it as “lucky”

They don’t care that you love them and defend them…they’re just gonna raise your prices more.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

By the end of the season you'll be able to buy Jet tickets for pocket change

Unfortunately when you buy season tickets, you can’t get a refund…TRUST ME, I’ve tried lol …when the people you’ve never met sitting next to you paid 15.00 for the same ticket you paid 120.00 for, yup it sucks…

 

[Smiley/OCD]

That’s one day a week for 4 months…

You don’t have to stay ontop of the east Rutherford dump and buy food the other six days a week.

I don’t get why this is such a huge issue?…weeklong destinations have to price based on the duration of the trip…which is what they WANT. This isn’t a new concept…it’s Been 40+ years…

What happened is they look bad with these price increases…its tone def…it doesn’t help them financially…

And the Swiss guard rushes to the defense. It’s not “better than…” anything…they jacked the prices and people are rightfully upset. No sense in trying to spin it as “lucky”

They don’t care that you love them and defend them…they’re just gonna raise your prices more.

We’ll just agree to disagree

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When people travel to New York, they never spend 7 days in the city going to sports games, concerts, broadway shows, observation decks, etc. while paying high prices for food and lodging? Might want to rethink that.

I believe the ESB is charging $80/person for access to the observation deck now. Great value, don’t you think?

Do you ever go to New York? I feel like your “expertise” on this comes from you youtube videos. Did the Trakkers go there? No way…nobody would have comped them to shill