Here it goes... Family sues Disney over April accident

trr1

Well-Known Member
To interject, McDonalds was aware of a design defect with the way the coffee was served and ignored it/refused to fix it. This defect was directly responsible for the injury the woman suffered.
found here
There is a lot of hype about the McDonalds' scalding coffee case. No one is in favor of frivolous cases of outlandish results; however, it is important to understand some points that were not reported in most of the stories about the case. McDonalds coffee was not only hot, it was scalding -- capable of almost instantaneous destruction of skin, flesh and muscle. Here's the whole story.
Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds.
After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.) Liebeck placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled into her lap.
The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body, including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds refused.
 

mrbghd

Member
found here
There is a lot of hype about the McDonalds' scalding coffee case. No one is in favor of frivolous cases of outlandish results; however, it is important to understand some points that were not reported in most of the stories about the case. McDonalds coffee was not only hot, it was scalding -- capable of almost instantaneous destruction of skin, flesh and muscle. Here's the whole story.
Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds.
After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.) Liebeck placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled into her lap.
The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body, including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds refused.

McDonalds was aware that the coffee was being served at the dangerously hot level after having been made aware of the problem and continued the practice.
 

mrbghd

Member
would you put hot coffee between your knees?

I do it all the time. BUT, where I buy my coffee does not serve it above the temperature that they know will cause serious injury. That was the problem. McD's knew that they were serving the coffee at such a high temp that the likelihood for injury was high. They ignored that fact and continued to do it. While we can disagree about whether it is prudent to put hot coffee between your knees (and you are probably right but I am stubborn about my coffee),there can be no disagreement that if the coffee was served at the appropriate temp, the extent of the injuries would not have been so severe and in fact would have been mild at worst. Also, if the coffee was served at the correct temp, then this case would have been decided differently. That being said I would never let my kid ride a bike unsupervised at WDW.
 

Kobe!!

Well-Known Member
Next thing you know, Disney will not allow the use of personal bicycles on property along with roller skates, roller blades and Heelies.
Probably shouldn't wear heals on Main Street, The Boardwalk, or at DtD.:shrug:

Can't have any fun now at Disney!
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Goofygirl07

Active Member
This just shows us that it is true that people will sue over anything and thats even when they know the truth. I've been in a similar situation once where the police report said I was in no wrong but the other party decided to sue me 2 years later...in the end the case was dismissed. And Im positive the same thing will happen to this one.

Of course there would be no issue with the sidewalk at Disney if the accident didn't happen. The parents would think it's just a normal sidewalk (which it is)
 

mrbghd

Member
. And Im positive the same thing will happen to this one.
How do you know this? Where you there? Are you an expert in accident reconstruction? Are you an expert on civil law in FL? The fact is none of us know all the details here. The FHP report was released but that is not completely relevant to this suit. It's one thing to disagree, it is another to spew opinion as fact. The fact is you have no clue whether this suit will be dimissed-nobody does.
 

mrbghd

Member
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Of course there would be no issue with the sidewalk at Disney if the accident didn't happen.
The parents would think it's just a normal sidewalk (which it is)

But this did happen so maybe there is an issue with the sidewalk????? Are you an urban engineer or an expert on traffic flow? The issue is not whether or not the it is a normal sidewalk; the issue is whether it was reasonble for Disney to foresee an incident like this happening and they failed to take reasonable efforts to keep it from happening.
 

TimNRA757

Member
Original Poster
But this did happen so maybe there is an issue with the sidewalk????? Are you an urban engineer or an expert on traffic flow? The issue is not whether or not the it is a normal sidewalk; the issue is whether it was reasonble for Disney to foresee an incident like this happening and they failed to take reasonable efforts to keep it from happening.
IMO, this is far more dangerous than just having bikes/pedestrians stay on the sidewalk:
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TimNRA757

Member
Original Poster
Absolutely! We have a few of those and I hate them!
Yeah, in Florida if they don't have that and a bike is on the road you have to give them 3 feet which to me is nonsense. They made the choice to bike and cars should have the right of way on the roads. Just stick to the sidewalks please.
 

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