Help out a newbie (please)

Baldy

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Until recently, I was one of those people who thought going to Universal was treason for a Disney fan.
My last trip to Disney was good but not the same as in previous years, so this summer I'm hoping to (Gasp! :jawdrop::eek::cautious:) go to Universal for the first time. I will be travelling with my almost 15 year old son and my mom (in her late 60s who will still be recovering from a bad fall) for 2-3 days before Disney trip (our flight is scheduled to arrive at MCO around 2pm on Mon Aug 17).

We are looking at staying at a Universal partner hotel and then taking a cab to our Disney hotel at the end of our trip. As this was not something in our original budget I would appreciate any cost saving measures :greedy: (we do not have a car).
Also suggestions on where you would recommend that we eat :hungry: (unique, cheap or just really yummy - pics would be great).
How would you suggest we tour the parks :happy: (assume one full day at each park - without park to park and maybe a few hours the day we arrive if necessary to see everything)? How do the rides compare with those at Disney? Harry Potter is our main draw but we would like to see as much s possible. We do need to avoid really intense rides - specifically big drops or rough turns.

Sorry about the long post. I just don't know where to begin and I find Universal's site confusing to navigate.
I look forward to your feedback and advice.
 

DisneyDaver

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Overall, the rides at Universal are more intense than WDW, but there is still a wide variety.

There are a handful of Universal rides you will want to avoid if you don't like intense rides:

Islands of Adventure - Hulk, Dragon Challenge, Doctor Doom Fearfall
Universal Studios - Rip Ride Rocket

Other may be questionable depending on your definition of intense:

Islands of Adventure - Dudley Do Right Ripsaw Falls, Jurrasic Park River Adventure (both Splash Mountain type rides but with longer drops)
Universal Studios - Mummy (indoor dark ride/coaster that is less intense than Expedition Everest, but more intense than Space Mountain)

One thing to note in particular is that if you do not purchase park-to-park tickets, you will not be able to ride Hogwart's Express between Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade either direction.
 

Baldy

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...if you do not purchase park-to-park tickets, you will not be able to ride Hogwart's Express between Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade.
Thanks for all the info. I did not know that the Hogwarts express required a park-to-park ticket - we would have been very disappointed if we had not been able to ride.
 

fugawe09

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I will be travelling with my almost 15 year old son and my mom (in her late 60s who will still be recovering from a bad fall)

I got a chuckle out of this because the grammar makes it sound like your mom hasn't fallen... yet. You planning something for her at the top of a flight of stairs? In all seriousness, I hope she heals up. Sounds like you've got a fair amount of walking and standing planned.
 

Baldy

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I got a chuckle out of this because the grammar makes it sound like your mom hasn't fallen... yet. You planning something for her at the top of a flight of stairs? In all seriousness, I hope she heals up. Sounds like you've got a fair amount of walking and standing planned.
Your post made me laugh out loud (and earned me a weird look from my son). My mom and I are very close I would never push her down the stairs, although I can think of another family member that...:angelic::cautious: (just kidding)

Actually she fell while on vacation a few months ago. Her legs are okay, so standing shouldn't be too much of a problem, but she dislocated her shoulder quite badly and tore up a bunch of muscles in her back :(. I'm worried about her getting bounced around on rides. Luckily we still have 9 months to go.
 

danpam1024

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how long are you staying? and by "partner hotel" do you mean one of the Uni hotels or something nearby? AP's are a good way to go to save some $- the offer great discounts on food, merch, rooms etc. More so than Disney.
 

JillC LI

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I would add that Forbidden Journey is very intense. I HAD to ride it as a serious HP fan, and I'm glad I got to experience it, but it was pretty wild, and I could not have ridden it a second time. I am a big chicken who cannot handle drops or loop-de-loops so there are many more rides at Uni that I skip than at Disney. But I still think Uni is great.

I recommend that you do early entry each day, and start each day in the HP section of each park. If you want to see the show at Ollivanders Wand Shop in IoA, go there first because it is a very small venue with a very slow moving line. Hit FJ after that. Try a frozen butterbeer. Mythos gets top reviews by many for dining although I have never eaten any sit down meals at Uni.
 

Baldy

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Thanks for your help everyone. How many days would you say we would need to see everything without too much rushing around? On our 1st day we will arrive at the airport around 2:00pm and we will have to take a cab to the hotel, check-in, drop off our luggage and then get another cab or shuttle to the park. There won't be much time to see anything. Do you think one additional day would be enough? My teenager doesn't do early mornings (I might be able to manage to roll him out of bed for one morning. Maybe.). My mom will need to take breaks and 9:00pm - 10:00pm is probably he latest we will be able to manage.
Universal is probably a once in a lifetime trip for us, so we really want to enjoy everything as much as possible.
 

Baldy

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how long are you staying? and by "partner hotel" do you mean one of the Uni hotels or something nearby? AP's are a good way to go to save some $- the offer great discounts on food, merch, rooms etc. More so than Disney.
We will only be staying a few days. Not worth getting an annual pass. As far as the hotels, we haven't quite decided. We would like one of the Uni hotels (we looked at Cabana Bay Beach) or another nearby hotel that has shuttle service to the parks and is reasonably priced.
 

BrerJon

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You definitely need two days, one for each of the parks, and I'd get a park to park as it's not much extra but lets you do the Hogwarts Express and also you may find you want to go back on the second day and do something again. The rides are bigger and brasher than at Disney, but the lines are usually shorter.

If Cabana Bay is within your budget I'd definitely go with that as it's the easiest for the parks, the transport is more regular and starts earlier. You said you're on a budget so you probably won't get Express but if you are worried about seeing everything you can always purchase it as an extra, no need to buy in advance.

Another option may be to just get Express on the second day if you feel like you need it; combined with a park-to-park you'd be guaranteed to see the main things, but you should be OK without it, especially if you're not planning on doing some of the higher thrill rides, and/or have a few hours on arrival day to ride a few of the big hitters.

If not doing Express, then a good touring plan is wise, but Universal is easier to navigate than Disney, and you should be able to take in almost every attraction with a bit of planning. An early start really helps - if you can beat everyone else to the park you can get several things done before most guests even arrive. The parks should be open until about 9pm at night in August.

Both parks are best worked by working your way around the lagoon, there's no need to criss-cross like in Disney parks. There shouldn't be any huge long lines - the longest will be for The Hulk and Forbidden Journey in IoA, and Despicable Me, Rip-Ride-Rockit and Gringotts in USO.

My big main tip is to use Single Rider lines for many things, you will save so much time and you still wait in line together, you just don't get to sit next to each other. If your son wants to do the high thrills rides while you and your mom want to sit things out, this is another great way, as most of the big rides - The Hulk, the Mummy, Transformers etc., all have single rider lines. If in doubt ask an attendant if there is a single rider line.

The first time you do the two main Harry Potter rides, Forbidden Journey and Escape From Gringotts, take the full line as the queues are amazingly well themed and part of the attraction, but if you want to do repeat Potters take the single rider line as you will zip past everyone else and this can be quicker than an Express pass.

There are a couple of 'secret' single rider lines too that not many people know about. Doctor Doom's Fearfall is a drop tower your son may like but probably not worth the long line, however it has a secret single rider - if you go inside the arcade next door, you can go up the stairs at the back and walk on to Dr Doom any time you like with no wait, so he could ride that while you guys were taking a bathroom break even!

The Mummy is another great ride that may be a bit too intense, but has a fast single rider line. Rip Ride Rockit has a single rider but it moves very, very slowly, and isn't that great so only worth doing if you or your son really, really want to give it a try.

Finally another great thing with single rider is you can send your son in as a 'canary' and he can ride and see if it's tame enough or too dramatic for you and your mom to enjoy, then you can always go again if he thinks you'd be OK with it.

Here are my recommendations for 'must-dos'.

IoA: Spider-Man and Cat in the Hat are the only one's everyone could do for sure. Hulk and Dragon Challenge are great, but not if you don't like drops and twists. Harry Potter Forbidden Journey should be OK, even for your Mom, but you might want your son to check it out first to make sure. Jurassic Park is great, and a little wetter and steeper than Splash Mountain, but not by too much. Dudley Do Right and Popeye however are great water rides but you will get SOAKED, DRENCHED, and be as wet as if you've been out in the rain for a day, so be warned (or wear a poncho). Cat in the Hat is a fun dark ride worth doing, and I'd see Poseidon's Adventure too as that's very clever.

USO: E.T. is my number one choice for a family ride, if you've never done it before Terminator 2:3D is great, Men In Black is good fun, as is The Simpsons.

Transformers is good but probably do as a single rider to save time, and Disaster and Twister are worth doing if you've never done them before. Despicable Me is pretty neat but not essential, and Shrek is basically a 4D movie and not much more.

Diagon Alley can consume hours of time, make sure to check out creepy Knockturn Alley, which many people miss. The Hogwarts Express is incredible, I'd pay the extra for park hopping just for that ride, so it might be worth heading straight there on arrival day. Make sure to ride it both ways, but the lines are lower late in the day so don't wait more than 25 minutes for it.

Food to try:
Butterbeer, butterbeer, butterbeer! Try it in three forms, regular soda, frozen slushee (my fave) and ice-cream. But you will see long lines for it in some places, as most people don't know that you can buy it in many locations, and if you are getting a meal at a Potter restaurant you can always get a butterbeer to go with it there.

Now on the butterbeer ice cream, here's a tip most people miss:

The ice cream shop in Diagon Alley always has long, long lines, and it does have lots of lovely flavors but most of them aren't that special and similar to what you'd find in a Coldstone or gelateria. The big reason for the lines though, is the Butterbeer ice cream, which you can only get in Universal. However most people don't realise you don't need to buy it there, as the Hopping Pot, on the far right of the courtyard as you enter Diagon Alley, is a little bar that sells all three Butterbeers, including the ice cream, and rarely has a line.

As far as eating meals, there's really no contest - The Leaky Cauldron in Diagon Alley, and the Three Broomsticks in Hogsmeade. Both reasonably priced, good food, great theming, and part of the whole Potter experience.

Finally make sure you post a trip report here when you get back!
 
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danpam1024

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You definitely need two days, one for each of the parks, and I'd get a park to park as it's not much extra but lets you do the Hogwarts Express and also you may find you want to go back on the second day and do something again. The rides are bigger and brasher than at Disney, but the lines are usually shorter.

If Cabana Bay is within your budget I'd definitely go with that as it's the easiest for the parks, the transport is more regular and starts earlier. You said you're on a budget so you probably won't get Express but if you are worried about seeing everything you can always purchase it as an extra, no need to buy in advance.

Another option may be to just get Express on the second day if you feel like you need it; combined with a park-to-park you'd be guaranteed to see the main things, but you should be OK without it, especially if you're not planning on doing some of the higher thrill rides, and/or have a few hours on arrival day to ride a few of the big hitters.

If not doing Express, then a good touring plan is wise, but Universal is easier to navigate than Disney, and you should be able to take in almost every attraction with a bit of planning. An early start really helps - if you can beat everyone else to the park you can get several things done before most guests even arrive. The parks should be open until about 9pm at night in August.

Both parks are best worked by working your way around the lagoon, there's no need to criss-cross like in Disney parks. There shouldn't be any huge long lines - the longest will be for The Hulk and Forbidden Journey in IoA, and Despicable Me, Rip-Ride-Rockit and Gringotts in USO.

My big main tip is to use Single Rider lines for many things, you will save so much time and you still wait in line together, you just don't get to sit next to each other. If your son wants to do the high thrills rides while you and your mom want to sit things out, this is another great way, as all the big coasters - Dragon Challenge, The Hulk, the Mummy, Transformers etc., all have single rider lines. If in doubt ask an attendant if there is a single rider line.

The first time you do the two main Harry Potter rides, Forbidden Journey and Escape From Gringotts, take the full line as the queues are amazingly well themed and part of the attraction, but if you want to do repeat Potters take the single rider line as you will zip past everyone else and this can be quicker than an Express pass.

There are a couple of 'secret' single rider lines too that not many people know about. Doctor Doom's Fearfall is a drop tower your son may like but probably not worth the long line, however it has a secret single rider - if you go inside the arcade next door, you can go up the stairs at the back and walk on to Dr Doom any time you like with no wait, so he could ride that while you guys were taking a bathroom break even!

The Mummy is another great ride that may be a bit too intense, but has a fast single rider line. Rip Ride Rockit has a single rider but it moves very, very slowly, and isn't that great so only worth doing if you or your son really, really want to give it a try.

Finally another great thing with single rider is you can send your son in as a 'canary' and he can ride and see if it's tame enough or too dramatic for you and your mom to enjoy, then you can always go again if he thinks you'd be OK with it.

Here are my recommendations for 'must-dos'.

IoA: Spider-Man and Cat in the Hat are the only one's everyone could do for sure. Hulk and Dragon Challenge are great, but not if you don't like drops and twists. Harry Potter Forbidden Journey should be OK, even for your Mom, but you might want your son to check it out first to make sure. Jurassic Park is great, and a little wetter and steeper than Splash Mountain, but not by too much. Dudley Do Right and Popeye however are great water rides but you will get SOAKED, DRENCHED, and be as wet as if you've been out in the rain for a day, so be warned (or wear a poncho). Cat in the Hat is a fun dark ride worth doing, and I'd see Poseidon's Adventure too as that's very clever.

USO: E.T. is my number one choice for a family ride, if you've never done it before Terminator 2:3D is great, Men In Black is good fun, as is The Simpsons.

Transformers is good but probably do as a single rider to save time, and Disaster and Twister are worth doing if you've never done them before. Despicable Me is pretty neat but not essential, and Shrek is basically a 4D movie and not much more.

Diagon Alley can consume hours of time, make sure to check out creepy Knockturn Alley, which many people miss. The Hogwarts Express is incredible, I'd pay the extra for park hopping just for that ride, so it might be worth heading straight there on arrival day. Make sure to ride it both ways, but the lines are lower late in the day so don't wait more than 25 minutes for it.

Food to try:
Butterbeer, butterbeer, butterbeer! Try it in three forms, regular soda, frozen slushee (my fave) and ice-cream. But you will see long lines for it in some places, as most people don't know that you can buy it in many locations, and if you are getting a meal at a Potter restaurant you can always get a butterbeer to go with it there.

Now on the butterbeer ice cream, here's a tip most people miss:

The ice cream shop in Diagon Alley always has long, long lines, and it does have lots of lovely flavors but most of them aren't that special and similar to what you'd find in a Coldstone or gelateria. The big reason for the lines though, is the Butterbeer ice cream, which you can only get in Universal. However most people don't realise you don't need to buy it there, as the Hopping Pot, on the far right of the courtyard as you enter Diagon Alley, is a little bar that sells all three Butterbeers, including the ice cream, and rarely has a line.

As far as eating meals, there's really no contest - The Leaky Cauldron in Diagon Alley, and the Three Broomsticks in Hogsmeade. Both reasonably priced, good food, great theming, and part of the whole Potter experience.

Finally make sure you post a trip report here when you get back!
Not that you ever put any thought into it :p:D
 

BrerJon

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If you're going for 3 days it's cheaper to get an AP. Discounts on food and beverage also, room rates as well. Big discounts.

Yup I second that, an Annual Pass gives a 10% discount on food and merchandise so when you factor that in it's often cheaper than buying tickets.
 

Baldy

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Okay, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what I can tell, the basic power pass does not include a food or merchandise discount. What am I missing?
 

WondersOfLife

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How would you suggest we tour the parks :happy: (assume one full day at each park - without park to park and maybe a few hours the day we arrive if necessary to see everything)? How do the rides compare with those at Disney? Harry Potter is our main draw but we would like to see as much s possible. We do need to avoid really intense rides - specifically big drops or rough turns.

Sorry about the long post. I just don't know where to begin and I find Universal's site confusing to navigate.
I look forward to your feedback and advice.

I'd choose Universal Studios over Islands of Adventure. There's a butt load of brand new rides there! And all of them are just flat out amazing compared to Disney's current state (sadly. I don't like admitting that.)

Both the Studios AND Islands of Adventure has a harry potter themed land. I personally liked Diagon Alley in Universal Studios better than Islands of Adventure's version.

My personal favorite rides at Univeral's main park are...

The Mummy
E.T. Adventure
Escape from Gringotts
The Simpsons Ride
Twister
Disaster
 

Baldy

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Okay, so here's what I've got so far:
We will extend our trip by two days. We will stay at a Disney Resort the whole time, but we will take a taxi to Universal on two separate occasions. I have purchased "buy two get the third day" park-to-park tickets so if we really love it we have the option of going again a third time.
On the first day we plan on doing the Harry Potter Rides and have dinner (with Butterbeer) at The Three Broomsticks. If we have time we will go to some of the other rides (my son really wants to do MIB) in one of the two parks. On our second day we will do the second park and anything we missed from the first park. *Now that everything is booked I can look more closely at the rides we might like to try.

I still haven't figure out food, but we will probably grab stuff here and there along the way. I have many dietary restrictions. I feel pretty safe eating at Disney, but I'm not sure what to do at Universal. Luckily they are medical restrictions but not allergies so I don't have to worry about anaphylaxis or anything like that.

Now for the questions:
Should we ask the concierge desk to call a taxi for us? How far in advance? Is there a cab company that you would suggest? Where will a taxi pick us up (at All-Star Sports) and where to we get a cab at Universal?

We are hoping to take advantage of the single rider lines. Are there any regular lines that we should do for the theming (esp. Harry Potter stuff)?

Thanks for all the advice. I can't wait to read more.
 

BrerJon

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Now for the questions:
Should we ask the concierge desk to call a taxi for us? How far in advance? Is there a cab company that you would suggest? Where will a taxi pick us up (at All-Star Sports) and where to we get a cab at Universal?

We are hoping to take advantage of the single rider lines. Are there any regular lines that we should do for the theming (esp. Harry Potter stuff)?

Thanks for all the advice. I can't wait to read more.

Your concierge desk will be able to call a taxi no problem, whatever Disney resort you're staying at, no need for advance booking as one should be there in minutes. As you leave Citywalk at Universal, you go down an escalator to the taxi pick-up zone, it's very clearly signposted and there will be lots available, so no need to book anything. I would advise getting up nice and early in the morning though, as you should allow about about an hour to get from your hotel and into a park at Universal (the trip is 30 minutes or so driving, plus time getting through bag check and CityWalk takes a while longer). With only two days, you really should try to get there for park opening.

Wise choice to use single rider lines - The only ones where you *must* do regular standby once to see the full queue, are the two main Harry Potter rides, Gringotts and Forbidden Journey, as the full queues are great, but with single rider you just go straight onto the ride and miss all that (great for repeat rides though!). Some rides like Spider-Man, MiB and The Mummy have some good theming in the queues, but nothing worth the extra wait time and you get the idea from the single rider lines anyway, as they pass through some of the same area.
 

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