Help me Plan my First WDW trip... I think its really happening this time...three's a charm.

PiratesMansion

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Honestly booking a WDW trip is a huge pain in the ***. I just feel like I’m forking over a boat load of money for the honor of being stressed out. Seems impossible to get everything to align. I can’t even get the hotels I want on the days I want paying full price 8 months out. I wouldn’t be shocked if they release more inventory later in the year so I’ll keep checking. With that said I’m getting close to feeling like it’s an omen that it’s not the right time for my family and I to go.

Is it more that you think it’s kind of a buzz kill to move from a Deluxe to a Mod or is it more that you don’t think a hotel move is wise? I see where you and others are coming from but on a 9 day stay to move one time on a down day doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to me. Maybe I’m underestimating how exhausted we’ll be?

And thank you! I appreciate the advice. I’d rather be stressed out now and not while I’m there.
Yep. The needless complexity of WDW is one of the reasons I strongly prefer DLR even though WDW is much closer to me. SO many hoops to jump through, and the need to not just plan, but plan with contingencies. It can feel endless.

In terms of now or later, I am of two minds on that. On one hand, I do think the trip will be less stressful if you wait until your kids are older. But it's also clear that you have been marinating on the prospect of WDW for some time, are in some way ready to go, and finances don't appear to be an issue, so from that perspective you may as well pull the trigger. This doesn't have to be a one-and-done trip and you can always treat this like a trial run and come back another time (though admittedly the ever-rising cost of WDW sure doesn't help with this prospect). Certainly there's something to be said for waiting for circumstances to be more optimal, but there may not be a time when everything aligns perfectly. I'd say that your desire to go is clear, and so if you want to go, I would do it.

One way to try and combat the overwhelming feeling of it all (it won't curb the feeling completely, but it'll help) is to try to plan and play things fairly conservatively. Focus on what you MUST do and not what would be nice to do, because inevitably there will be things you won't get to, or unexpected situations that will come up. It will be busy, lines will be long, children will be children, and everything will be bigger and take more time than you anticipate (Animal Kingdom is perhaps the ONLY possible exception to that depending on how you tour). For that reason, trust me when I say that the moving of the hotels is something that sounds great now, but it will be the last thing you'll want to do mid-trip. The deluxe to mod transfer is part of it, but the bigger thing for me personally is that I just wouldn't move hotels at all within WDW on the same trip unless I had to. It's an unnecessary hassle (at a place that will inevitably throw you several hassles free of charge both in the planning process and in person) for what is likely to be a negligible at best benefit. WDW takes a lot more out of you than DL does, and sooner or later, even with rest days, that will probably catch up to somebody in your group. Thus, anything that might make your trip more stressful is something to be eliminated. As much as pre-planning will help reduce your stress during the trip, it probably won't eliminate it entirely, so playing everything slowly and deliberately even at this point in the planning will help.

It's not just you. It's a big and stressful place, and many of the choices Disney has made have only exacerbated that stress.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Honestly booking a WDW trip is a huge pain in the ***. I just feel like I’m forking over a boat load of money for the honor of being stressed out. Seems impossible to get everything to align. I can’t even get the hotels I want on the days I want paying full price 8 months out. I wouldn’t be shocked if they release more inventory later in the year so I’ll keep checking. With that said I’m getting close to feeling like it’s an omen that it’s not the right time for my family and I to go.

basically... 8 months out isn't that far in WDW terms. That's the sucky part. It gets worse when dealing with trying to align park reservations, dining ADRs, etc. That's what made FP+ even worse.. was yet another scheduled piece to try to fit in all the constraints.

As big as WDW... when it's been busy and constrained, availability is still very tight.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Yep. The needless complexity of WDW is one of the reasons I strongly prefer DLR even though WDW is much closer to me. SO many hoops to jump through, and the need to not just plan, but plan with contingencies. It can feel endless.

In terms of now or later, I am of two minds on that. On one hand, I do think the trip will be less stressful if you wait until your kids are older. But it's also clear that you have been marinating on the prospect of WDW for some time, are in some way ready to go, and finances don't appear to be an issue, so from that perspective you may as well pull the trigger. This doesn't have to be a one-and-done trip and you can always treat this like a trial run and come back another time (though admittedly the ever-rising cost of WDW sure doesn't help with this prospect). Certainly there's something to be said for waiting for circumstances to be more optimal, but there may not be a time when everything aligns perfectly. I'd say that your desire to go is clear, and so if you want to go, I would do it.

One way to try and combat the overwhelming feeling of it all (it won't curb the feeling completely, but it'll help) is to try to plan and play things fairly conservatively. Focus on what you MUST do and not what would be nice to do, because inevitably there will be things you won't get to, or unexpected situations that will come up. It will be busy, lines will be long, children will be children, and everything will be bigger and take more time than you anticipate (Animal Kingdom is perhaps the ONLY possible exception to that depending on how you tour). For that reason, trust me when I say that the moving of the hotels is something that sounds great now, but it will be the last thing you'll want to do mid-trip. The deluxe to mod transfer is part of it, but the bigger thing for me personally is that I just wouldn't move hotels at all within WDW on the same trip unless I had to. It's an unnecessary hassle (at a place that will inevitably throw you several hassles free of charge both in the planning process and in person) for what is likely to be a negligible at best benefit. WDW takes a lot more out of you than DL does, and sooner or later, even with rest days, that will probably catch up to somebody in your group. Thus, anything that might make your trip more stressful is something to be eliminated. As much as pre-planning will help reduce your stress during the trip, it probably won't eliminate it entirely, so playing everything slowly and deliberately even at this point in the planning will help.

It's not just you. It's a big and stressful place, and many of the choices Disney has made have only exacerbated that stress.

Yeah it’s a doozy. This is where I start feeling stressed out by the planning, look at the price tag, think of my kids ages and say “is this really how I want to spend this much money?” Our family goes to Disneyland 25x a year.

Honestly the booking process today was ridiculous. And that had nothing to do with any of the planning obstacles I had been already dealing with.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
basically... 8 months out isn't that far in WDW terms. That's the sucky part. It gets worse when dealing with trying to align park reservations, dining ADRs, etc. That's what made FP+ even worse.. was yet another scheduled piece to try to fit in all the constraints.

As big as WDW... when it's been busy and constrained, availability is still very tight.

They only released the inventory in early/ mid June I believe for 2023. Hotels got booked up in the last few weeks? I have feeling they're holding onto a good chunk of inventory for a later date? Not sure why.
 
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mickEblu

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Original Poster
I just checked out some well done YouTube videos highlighting Port Orleans Riverside and French Quarter and I gotta say I really dig the ambiance at both of those hotels and if we're talking surface value alone they appeal to me more than Beach Club does on the videos due to the theming, peace and quiet, river and all the trees. All to say that I'm feeling a bit better than I was earlier and really don't think I'll have a problem going "backwards" from Beach Club to Port Orleans.

Couple questions...

1. From what I understand buses only go from hotels to parks and not from hotel to hotel. On the day I transfer hotels (if I proceed with this plan) is getting an uber or Minnie van my best option? Are car seats available?

2. Do French Quarter and Riverside share the same bus line? I've heard different things. Would bus transportation be a lot easier at French Quarter. Asking because I think that would put French Q over the top even though I prefer the atmosphere at Riverside.

3. Is there a specific building or part of the hotel I should request at either hotel to be centrally located and not too far from transportation? If I go with Riverside I want to stay where the Mansion themed rooms are. Would those be really out of the way?

Thanks again for taking the time!
 

mlayton144

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Ugh! I know I don’t want to go backwards ideally. I was hoping to stay at Port Orleans first but there’s no availability for the end of the week at Beach or Yacht. I called too. And there were ZERO discounts applied to the trip I just booked so I can’t imagine why it would be booked 8 months out. Pent up traveling demand?

Honestly booking a WDW trip is a huge pain in the ***. I just feel like I’m forking over a boat load of money for the honor of being stressed out. Seems impossible to get everything to align. I can’t even get the hotels I want on the days I want paying full price 8 months out. I wouldn’t be shocked if they release more inventory later in the year so I’ll keep checking. With that said I’m getting close to feeling like it’s an omen that it’s not the right time for my family and I to go.

Is it more that you think it’s kind of a buzz kill to move from a Deluxe to a Mod or is it more that you don’t think a hotel move is wise? I see where you and others are coming from but on a 9 day stay to move one time on a down day doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to me. Maybe I’m underestimating how exhausted we’ll be?

And thank you! I appreciate the advice. I’d rather be stressed out now and not while I’m there.

For many planning is a big part of the fun , you have a lot of time to get what you want - agree with previous poster than something weird happening with resort bookings - I would expect yacht and beach availability to open up in the future- something just sounds amiss that it’s completely sold out

- way too early for any discounts to be released

- easy to change reservations until 60 days out when dining choices might drive decisions

- I generally prefer riverside with its bayou southern charm and landscaping over POFQ , but each has advantages. Caribbean Beach has the extra convenience of skyliner so I would pick that if staying 9 nights. Grounds are very nice as well

- What kind of places are you used to staying at when going other places - hotel resort properties or more modest places ?
 

mlayton144

Well-Known Member
I just checked out some well done YouTube videos highlighting Port Orleans Riverside and French Quarter and I gotta say I really dig the ambiance at both of those hotels and if we're talking surface value alone they appeal to me more than Beach Club does on the videos due to the theming, peace and quiet, river and all the trees. All to say that I'm feeling a bit better than I was earlier and really don't think I'll have a problem going "backwards" from Beach Club to Port Orleans.

Couple questions...

1. From what I understand buses only go from hotels to parks and not from hotel to hotel. On the day I transfer hotels (if I proceed with this plan) is getting an uber or Minnie van my best option? Are car seats available?

2. Do French Quarter and Riverside share the same bus line? I've heard different things. Would bus transportation be a lot easier at French Quarter. Asking because I think that would put French Q over the top even though I prefer the atmosphere at Riverside.

3. Is there a specific building or part of the hotel I should request at either hotel to be centrally located and not too far from transportation? If I go with Riverside I want to stay where the Mansion themed rooms are. Would those be really out of the way?

Thanks again for taking the time!

Personally IMO the bayou section have more of an escape vibe and charm than the mansions - a preferred room in either will get you close to the main areas

On day you transfer you can either drop your bags at bell services who will transfer them to new hotel later in day , or Minnie van with bags directly (don’t think rideshare has car seats).

I will be at POR riverside on Thursday if you want me to find anything out. I’m a hypocrite because I’m doing split stay moving to Poly for 8 nights after. Just doing this because the extra night was a wash with cheaper airfare on a weeknight - plus the boat to Disney springs is a great way to start vacation.
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
Yeah it’s a doozy. This is where I start feeling stressed out by the planning, look at the price tag, think of my kids ages and say “is this really how I want to spend this much money?” Our family goes to Disneyland 25x a year.

Honestly the booking process today was ridiculous. And that had nothing to do with any of the planning obstacles I had been already dealing with.
I do think visiting Disney as a kid is the most magical feeling, and all my memories come from WDW as I hadn’t visited DL until I was a teenager. There’s lots for kids and lots of happy memories to be made at WDW, just don’t rush and know you can come back if you miss anything. Yes planning can be a pain, but I do think it’s worth it to try Atleast once. WDW is a very different beast and offers lots of stuff outside the parks to do. I say it’s a good idea to go now and see how you like it.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
For many planning is a big part of the fun , you have a lot of time to get what you want - agree with previous poster than something weird happening with resort bookings - I would expect yacht and beach availability to open up in the future- something just sounds amiss that it’s completely sold out

- way too early for any discounts to be released

- easy to change reservations until 60 days out when dining choices might drive decisions

- I generally prefer riverside with its bayou southern charm and landscaping over POFQ , but each has advantages. Caribbean Beach has the extra convenience of skyliner so I would pick that if staying 9 nights. Grounds are very nice as well

- What kind of places are you used to staying at when going other places - hotel resort properties or more modest places ?

Riverside looks more like my scene but I’m going to be changing it to French Q since it’s more compact and has the better pool. Also easier to get to buses and shorter waits if I’m not mistaken? I figure I can stroll to Riverside for a nice walk to take the boats to Disney Springs if so choose.

We don’t travel (big trips) that often so when we do we usually try to stay at nicer resort.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
Personally IMO the bayou section have more of an escape vibe and charm than the mansions - a preferred room in either will get you close to the main areas

On day you transfer you can either drop your bags at bell services who will transfer them to new hotel later in day , or Minnie van with bags directly (don’t think rideshare has car seats).

I will be at POR riverside on Thursday if you want me to find anything out. I’m a hypocrite because I’m doing split stay moving to Poly for 8 nights after. Just doing this because the extra night was a wash with cheaper airfare on a weeknight - plus the boat to Disney springs is a great way to start vacation.

Hahah @ being a hypocrite. Your situation is a little different though. The boats to Disney Springs sound really nice.

Oh wow didn’t realize they provided that service. Our first hotel will transfer our bags to our new hotel? That sounds a lot more convenient than taking the whole fam to the new hotel just to drop off our bags and then leave again.

Do Minnie Vans have car seats? If so I’m guessing that’s something you have to request somehow? No worries if you don’t know off the top if your head - I can look it up.
 

mlayton144

Well-Known Member
Hahah @ being a hypocrite. Your situation is a little different though. The boats to Disney Springs sound really nice.

Oh wow didn’t realize they provided that service. Our first hotel will transfer our bags to our new hotel? That sounds a lot more convenient than taking the whole fam to the new hotel just to drop off our bags and then leave again.

Do Minnie Vans have car seats? If so I’m guessing that’s something you have to request somehow? No worries if you don’t know off the top if your head - I can look it up.

Yes just drop luggage at bell services and tell them to ship to new resort (typically arrives later in day) - no charge other than a tip.

Never taken a Minnie van , but I’m pretty sure they have car seats - pretty sure that’s an expensive ride though compared to rideshare
 

SaucyBoy

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In the Parks
No
pretty sure that’s an expensive ride though compared to rideshare
We were going to use a Minnie Van leaving the Poly after 4th of July fireworks and even on a holiday night, the prices were comparable to Uber and Lyft. It was going to be about $40 (still steep but not unbearable). Unfortunately, it was going to take them about 30 minutes to pick us up, whereas an Uber was ready to go in less than 10.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
What do you guys think of my Must Do Ride list for MK? Keep in my mind I go to Disneyland 25x a year.

MUST DO
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Pirates of the Caribbean
  • Astro Orbiter
  • Haunted Mansion
  • Space Mountain
  • Splash Mountain (if its still open)
  • Thunder Mountain
  • Jungle Cruise
  • Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
  • PeopleMover
  • Tron (if its open)
  • Country Bear Jamboree

WOULD LIKE TO IF I HAVE TIME

  • Mickeys Philharmagic
  • Pooh
  • Peter Pan
  • Swiss Family Treehouse
  • Walt Disney World Railroad (if its open)
  • Tom Sawyer Island
  • Hall of Presidents
  • It's a Small World


NOT NECESSARY BUT MIGHT HAVE TO THROW THE KIDS A BONE

  • Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
  • Dumbo
  • Mad Tea Party
  • Barnstormer
  • Magic Carpets


NOT NECESSARY

  • Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
  • Buzz
  • Tommorowland Speedway
  • Little Mermaid
  • Liberty Square Riverboat
  • Enchanted Tiki Room
 

SaucyBoy

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
What do you guys think of my Must Do Ride list for MK? Keep in my mind I go to Disneyland 25x a year.

MUST DO
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Pirates of the Caribbean
  • Astro Orbiter
  • Haunted Mansion
  • Space Mountain
  • Splash Mountain (if its still open)
  • Thunder Mountain
  • Jungle Cruise
  • Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
  • PeopleMover
  • Tron (if its open)
  • Country Bear Jamboree

WOULD LIKE TO IF I HAVE TIME

  • Mickeys Philharmagic
  • Pooh
  • Peter Pan
  • Swiss Family Treehouse
  • Walt Disney World Railroad (if its open)
  • Tom Sawyer Island
  • Hall of Presidents
  • It's a Small World


NOT NECESSARY BUT MIGHT HAVE TO THROW THE KIDS A BONE

  • Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
  • Dumbo
  • Mad Tea Party
  • Barnstormer
  • Magic Carpets


NOT NECESSARY

  • Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
  • Buzz
  • Tommorowland Speedway
  • Little Mermaid
  • Liberty Square Riverboat
  • Enchanted Tiki Room
I would personally swap Astro Orbiter with Hall of Presidents, otherwise your must do list is solid and doable for a day at the MK.
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
I think Monsters inc is a better version of turtle talk, your kids can send in jokes and they may tell them. If they like TT they would love laugh floor. Swiss treehouse, hall of Presidents, Phillarmagic and pooh are way better than their DL counterparts
 
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flynnibus

Premium Member
What do you guys think of my Must Do Ride list for MK? Keep in my mind I go to Disneyland 25x a year.

MUST DO
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Pirates of the Caribbean
  • Astro Orbiter
  • Haunted Mansion
  • Space Mountain
  • Splash Mountain (if its still open)
  • Thunder Mountain
  • Jungle Cruise
  • Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
  • PeopleMover
  • Tron (if its open)
  • Country Bear Jamboree

WOULD LIKE TO IF I HAVE TIME

  • Mickeys Philharmagic
  • Pooh
  • Peter Pan
  • Swiss Family Treehouse
  • Walt Disney World Railroad (if its open)
  • Tom Sawyer Island
  • Hall of Presidents
  • It's a Small World


NOT NECESSARY BUT MIGHT HAVE TO THROW THE KIDS A BONE

  • Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
  • Dumbo
  • Mad Tea Party
  • Barnstormer
  • Magic Carpets


NOT NECESSARY

  • Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
  • Buzz
  • Tommorowland Speedway
  • Little Mermaid
  • Liberty Square Riverboat
  • Enchanted Tiki Room
knock Jungle Cruise down
Elevate Hall of Presidents, Philharmagic, Peter Pan
Knock pooh down

Kids will like Philharmagic too
 

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