Has Anyone noticed something odd on the Turrents?

flynnibus

Premium Member
Yeah but those spires aren't made of metal so no ground would be needed. :)

Uhh.. don't need to be metal to be struck :) In fact, this means when you get hit, it likely burns :) And why you put lightning rods on houses.. tied to ground wire stuck into the ground. So your wood house doesn't burn down ;)

There are many reasons to have conduit or drains in the tower. It's not even notable.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The white PCV pipe will not be used for electrical, grounding or speaker cabling. Gray electrical PVC must be used for those purposes. The white pipe could only be used as a sleeve for something non-electrical, or as a drain pipe of some sort. Perhaps there will be a mini-gutter system around the turrets (that's TURRET, without an "n") that feeds into the internal drain pipe.

The framed opening will either be for an area speaker, or that's where the access panel will be for them to get inside the turret later. Might be filled with a faux window, speaker, or other decorative panel that removes.

thank you for typing what I was too lazy to do :)
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
It actually looked to me as though they were framed with aluminum, but even if they weren't, that would just be MORE reason to add a ground.
Well yeah they were metal inside but the outside isn't is all I meant.

Uhh.. don't need to be metal to be struck :) In fact, this means when you get hit, it likely burns :) And why you put lightning rods on houses.. tied to ground wire stuck into the ground. So your wood house doesn't burn down ;)
Ok I know metal isn't required for it to be hit by lightning but I believe that for there to be a ground it has to be attached in some way to the top and in this case, the PVC pipe is in the column below the topper and doesn't go all the way up.

Please everyone forgive my obviously misguided comment about why a PVC pipe isn't a lightning rod. LOL! :D
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
You can actually see in the pictures of the turrets that there is a space between the blue "tile" roof, and the "stone work", water will inevitably flow down into this, and probably down into the white pvc which is mostly used as drainage. Makes sense given how many people will walk under the turrets, and how it can really rain in Orlando, everthing they can do to keep water from pooling will help.

The top of the turrets looks like metal, it is most likely connected to grounding rods that are concealed in the foundation of the turrets somewhere.

There are lights/chandeliers hanging from the court yard entrance/exit, so obviously, they have installed electrical, probably using the grey conduit, which is UL listed for electrical work. I would figure that while they are doing that, they probably will hide dozens of outlets in the small area protected from the elements, so that during the holidays they can easily be decorated the whole thing with christmas lights.

If parades will go past this area, they might as well install some speakers which could be easily hidden in the top of the turrets.

I would also install plumbing hook-ups and electrical at certain spots along the wall just in case somebody decides to put in an ODV cart, or something else, in the future, seems to be a natural place for the masses to stop and pull out maps, and maybe grab a bite.
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
Well yeah they were metal inside but the outside isn't is all I meant.


Ok I know metal isn't required for it to be hit by lightning but I believe that for there to be a ground it has to be attached in some way to the top and in this case, the PVC pipe is in the column below the topper and doesn't go all the way up.

Please everyone forgive my obviously misguided comment about why a PVC pipe isn't a lightning rod. LOL! :D

See my post above, there are very skillfully concealed "gutters" below the blue roofs of the turrets disguised as stonework, the white PVC is almost certainly used to drain the gutters as they sure will fill up with water when it rains (probably already have).

The actually grounding wire wouldn't be nearly as visible as PVC drainage pipe, since it is much smaller diameter, and also is not white. Its in there for sure. The tops of the turrets are conveniently made of metal, and hence are bonded to the grounding wire.

Interestingly, if all that was going in the turrets was drainage pipe, and already installed grounding wire, no need to have a square section of dry wall cut out/or not dry walled over yet. IMHO, they are going to put in something like Speakers, or security cameras, here. Probably speakers hidden by foam spray painted to look like stone work, or hidden behind a "window" or stonework or something.
 

Tom

Beta Return
See my post above, there are very skillfully concealed "gutters" below the blue roofs of the turrets disguised as stonework, the white PVC is almost certainly used to drain the gutters as they sure will fill up with water when it rains (probably already have).

The actually grounding wire wouldn't be nearly as visible as PVC drainage pipe, since it is much smaller diameter, and also is not white. Its in there for sure. The tops of the turrets are conveniently made of metal, and hence are bonded to the grounding wire.

Interestingly, if all that was going in the turrets was drainage pipe, and already installed grounding wire, no need to have a square section of dry wall cut out/or not dry walled over yet. IMHO, they are going to put in something like Speakers, or security cameras, here. Probably speakers hidden by foam spray painted to look like stone work, or hidden behind a "window" or stonework or something.

100% correct continuation of what I was getting at. The photos weren't showing up when I went back to look at them again, but if you say there's a mini gutter, then the white PVC is most definitely for water drainage.

The turret roofs are most likely grounded by something as simple as a #8 copper wire, so it would be almost impossible to see in these photos. It's there. Even if there were no metals, lightning protection would be there.

The opening will ultimately be for access, since they can't completely enclose these things. But it's extremely likely that the openings will be "plugged" with themed speakers. The castle walls provide a great location to add speakers for area music....not to mention parade music if they ever run a mini daytime parade through FL.
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
100% correct continuation of what I was getting at. The photos weren't showing up when I went back to look at them again, but if you say there's a mini gutter, then the white PVC is most definitely for water drainage.

The turret roofs are most likely grounded by something as simple as a #8 copper wire, so it would be almost impossible to see in these photos. It's there. Even if there were no metals, lightning protection would be there.

The opening will ultimately be for access, since they can't completely enclose these things. But it's extremely likely that the openings will be "plugged" with themed speakers. The castle walls provide a great location to add speakers for area music....not to mention parade music if they ever run a mini daytime parade through FL.

If you look at the top of the turrets, there is a golden metal-ish looking cap, and then a different color piece of what looks like metal protruding from the top, most probably this is the lightning rod cleverly built into the structure.

FYU, you can see other lightning rods built into other metal, uh, tower tops, or whatever they're called, inside of FLE.

#4 gauge copper wire would be much better, of course, and I'm sure Disney can afford it, worth it if there is other electrical equipment up there. Even that wouldn't be very visible when compared to a PVC pipe.

Be interesting to see the final product.
 

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