Harry Potter Attractions?

awallaceunc

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STR8FAN2005 said:
There was an article on ComingSoon.net, a very credible movie site! Bill was definitely right about your attitude.

Harry Potter is more than the crappy movies most people on these boards associate it with (except grizz), it is an awesome book series that is fantasy. I believe that Harry would fit in fantasyland (It all depends on what they do with it), but I'm in the minority.

It's not fair to say that just because one doesn't want HP in Fantasyland that they aren't Potter fans. As I said earlier, I'm a huge Potter fan. But Fantasyland is more than just a name, it's a theme. It's for DISNEY fantasy-- not for outside fantasy. Therefore, it is categorically false to say that it fits the theme. I really don't even think it's a matter of opinion. Should there be an HP attraction? Yes! Should it be at WDW? I hope so! In Fantasyland? No. Magic Kingdom? No. What's wrong with MGM?? Nothing.

-Aaron
 

ButtClown44

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Again, thats what I meant. WB has a partnership with Six Flags I thought. I don't see how its at all possible for Disney to build an attraction of something they have no rights to. Granted they can show the movies on ABC, but that has nothing to do with an attraction. It really seems to me that someone thought it would be cool if it happened and somehow it got blown way out of proportion and as always rumors start to fly. Is there any evidence that Disney has any partership or anything with the series other than the right to show it on ABC?
 

Bill

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awallaceunc said:
It's not fair to say that just because one doesn't want HP in Fantasyland that they aren't Potter fans. As I said earlier, I'm a huge Potter fan. But Fantasyland is more than just a name, it's a theme. It's for DISNEY fantasy-- not for outside fantasy. Therefore, it is categorically false to say that it fits the theme. I really don't even think it's a matter of opinion. Should there be an HP attraction? Yes! Should it be at WDW? I hope so! In Fantasyland? No. Magic Kingdom? No. What's wrong with MGM?? Nothing.

-Aaron
Why not Magic Kingdom? Indiana Jones is in Adventureland in Disneyland. Star Tours is in Tomorrowland. Why doesn't Harry fit in Fantasyland? After all, Harry is an amazing Fantasy.
 

imagineer99

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General Grizz said:
I read the books, saw the movie. Loved them.

But it already has a feel to it that I do not think fits in with Walt Disney World. If Disney built a ride based on the the BOOKS, versus the film (and this would be the film, I'm quite sure, if Disney is indeed looking at it), then I'd be pretty interested.

Again. . . Bugs Bunny in Toontown?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Frankly, the movies are such poor and unimaginative representations of the books...
 

awallaceunc

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Bill said:
Why not Magic Kingdom? Indiana Jones is in Adventureland in Disneyland. Star Tours is in Tomorrowland. Why doesn't Harry fit in Fantasyland? After all, Harry is an amazing Fantasy.

For the exact reason that I stated earlier. None of these lands are themed exclusively to Disney- there's no such precedence. With WDW's Fantasy Land, all the attractions are lifts from Disney characters or Disney movies (with the exception of IASW, which is still a Disney creation). There's never been an 'outsider' in Fantasyland, and it would be breaking the established theme. You're getting too hung up on the word 'Fantasy,' that's not an invitation for anything fantastical. It practice, it's DisneyFantasyland, and Harry Potter doesn't fit that bill.

-Aaron
 

Bill

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Well, I have to say, I agree with your point there. :)

But rememer, Fantasyland was never built just for Disney themed things.

Case in Point is the Castle in Disneyland... it was built without a movie.

20k was a pretty un-Disney ride... Sure 20k was a Disney Movie... but the feel that Harry Potter has is just as Disney as 20k was.

Fantasyland is themed to be a medieval fair... and I think Harry Potter fits that theme pretty well. Honestly, if I had my way, I'd theme an entire area to Potter behind Fantasyland... kind of set back so it wouldn't stick out as much. I don't know, maybe that wouldn't work. But I think Harry could fit into Fantasyland. And to make it clear, we wouldn't get anything like my fake construction photo I posted a while back. We'd get something like any other Fantasyland ride on the outside... but it would be a huge ride on the inside. Something on the same scale as Peter Pan meets Indiana Jones Adventure.
 

ToTBellHop

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A couple issues. First, talking about Star Tours and the Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland does not really prove anything. Both of these parks were built when Disneyland was the only Disney park in California, so they didn't particularly have a choice on where to build them. They wanted thrill rides, they had good ideas, and they made them fit. That does not mean they necessarily belong where they are. Moving to Disney World, since there are 4 parks, with one park devoted entirely to entertainment, certainly any attraction featuring a non-Disney movie belongs there (just like the Indiana Jones Adventure belongs more in Hollywood Pictures Backlot at California Adventure than in Adventureland--but it opened in 1995, so that wasn't an option). However, Harry is not going to MGM because there is already a new E-Ride going to MGM, the Indiana Jones Adventure, and they are not building two E-Rides in one park at one time.

Sleeping Beauty Castle was not built without a movie. It was built a bit before the movie came out, and final animation changes in the film caused some changes in the now-closed walkthrough tour, but the Castle was meant as a preview for Sleeping Beauty, the movie (which, unfortunately, didn't do all that astonishingly in the theatres). It was a gutsy move to build the Castle before the movie came out, but Walt was gutsy. The movie was, however, already in production when Disneyland opened. And that doesn't matter anyway--it wasn't a non-Disney story anyway. It is fine to build attractions in the Magic Kingdom that aren't based on a movie that another company released. Something like Space Mountain was a new concept, not based on a movie, and it works. Even as Grizz said, basing a ride on the Harry Potter books would be fine (Disney didn't write the fairy tales, of course, they adapted them with their own Disney Magic), as long as it had that Disney twist, but by showing Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone on ABC, we know that we would not see such a ride. Any ride would be based on the movie, and that simply does not belong. One overheard conversation is hardly enough to prove that a ride is coming. WDI makes countless ride concepts, and 99% of them never reach fruition. Furthermore, we already know this area will sit for a couple years as a meet 'n' greet, so let's think about this. They finish clearing the area by late this year, and it opens as a meet 'n' greet. If we wait another two years to begin construction of any ride, that is early 2007, at the earliest, breaking ground (the same year Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is released), then we assume two years of construction, at least (probably more), and any new ride opens in 2009. That is FAR too long to wait to build such a ride. The final book will be out, everyone will know the ending to the series, and the 7th movie will be close to its 2010 release, the buzz will be leaving very quickly--they would get maybe two years of popularity and then it would start fizzing away. Any series consisting of 7 movies in 10 years will grow VERY tiresome by 2010, and while I like the Harry Potter movies a lot, they simply are not as timeless as a lot of the Disney movies-turned-rides. I'm sure some of you disagree, but it seems to me that if Disney were ever going to build a Harry Potter ride, it would already be under construction. The overabundance of Disney characters on the 20K site the past few years and the rumors of a meet 'n' greet after demolition has completed should serves as the best predictor of what will follow in this site: more kid-friendly Disney characters, not Lord Voldemort, Death Eaters, and Dementors.
 

TnkrBelPixiDust

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I really like the HP books & movies however I really dont want to see a HP ride @ WDW. It's just my personal opinion and everyone who is saying that they should... you all have good points... everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.. just wish people could respect that on the boards. :)
 

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