DisneyHead123
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It’s been awhile since I rode coasters - I’m not understanding why a ride like this has no shoulder harnesses.
Most/many new inverted coasted don't. VelociCoaster is another, holds you in at the waist. Safety restraints have come a long way, and are seen as better than the over the shoulder predecessors.It’s been awhile since I rode coasters - I’m not understanding why a ride like this has no shoulder harnesses.
I don't see it happening. It would costs millions to do that. Adding over the shoulder restraints wouldn't change much. Instead of hitting his head on the head rest, he would hit the restraints instead.If this is true, then this will be closed for quite some time until they redesign the trains.
Where is this taken from?There has been an update from the death at Epic Universe
ORLANDO, Fla. —
Multiple blunt impact injuries have been ruled the cause of death for the man found unresponsive on an Epic Universe ride on Wednesday.
Zavala did not fall from the ride. Instead, an autopsy performed on Thursday morning shows that the cause of death is “multiple blunt impact injuries,” according to Chief Medical Examiner Joshua Stephany.
The manner of death is accident per the Medical Examiner.
The man, 32-year-old Kevin Rodriguez Zavala, was found unresponsive after riding on the Stardust Racers roller coaster, according to Universal Orlando officials. It appears he went unconscious during the ride and his head struck the head rest and other areas that could be hit while in the restraints.
The Orange County Sheriff's Office said off-duty deputies responded to a "man down" call at the theme park.
The man was then transported to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Statement from Universal:
“Universal is cooperating with the Orange County Sheriff’s Office following a tragic event involving a guest at Epic Universe on Wednesday night. The guest became unresponsive after riding Stardust Racers and was transported to the hospital, where the guest later died. We are devastated by this event and extend our sincerest sympathies to the guest's loved ones. We are fully committed to cooperating with this ongoing investigation. The attraction remains closed.”
Our thoughts are with the family, friends and loved ones of Mr. Zavala. We’ll keep this post updated as soon as confirmed updates occur. Please be cautious about unverified reports circulating elsewhere.
Correct. Blue Fire has been open since 2009 and the same restraint design has been used on many coasters around the world since then.The ride restraint utilized has been in use for quite a while now. I think Mack first used it on Blue Fire at Europa
I searched and could only find the article reproduced exactly on Facebook without any attribution...Where is this taken from?
Possibly without fatal force though?Adding over the shoulder restraints wouldn't change much. Instead of hitting his head on the head rest, he would hit the restraints instead.
Kind of surprised Universal didn’t offer to cover these expenses. But, maybe they have? If not, perhaps they suspect wrongdoing on the part of the rider. Loss prevention teams are usually rather generous when there are violent accidents.I feel bad for his family...but am the only one who doesn't like these pages? Just in general?
You're not alone in your complete sentiment.I feel bad for his family...but am the only one who doesn't like these pages? Just in general?
If it's like Disney's historical responses, accepting coverage for those expenses usually comes with signing away a lot of rights.Kind of surprised Universal didn’t offer to cover these expenses. But, maybe they have? If not, perhaps they suspect wrongdoing on the part of the rider. Loss prevention teams are usually rather generous when there are violent accidents.
It’s absolutely this, if they cover it that can be used as an example of them admitting culpability, so they would have to get them to sign something that clears them, and obviously the family would not be doing anything of the sortIf it's like Disney's historical responses, accepting coverage for those expenses usually comes with signing away a lot of rights.
I had an incident with a major travel company. They offered to cover all medical expenses and didn’t make me sign anything. So this certainly isn’t always the case. Probably depends on overall negligence. If there was no failure and the rider technically shouldn’t have ridden based upon posted warnings, this would be an interesting court case should that come to pass.It’s absolutely this, if they cover it that can be used as an example of them admitting culpability, so they would have to get them to sign something that clears them, and obviously the family would not be doing anything of the sort
I'm not a HUGE coaster person. The most intense I have ridden was Rockin' Rollercoaster, Hagrid's, Mummy.For those who have been on - is it particularly rough or intense? What coaster would you compare it to?
I'm not a HUGE coaster person. The most intense I have ridden was Rockin' Rollercoaster, Hagrid's, Mummy.
I was riding my high of conquering my fear of Incredicoaster the month before we went to Epic, and my FOMO took over. I had intended on riding the yellow track since I had read it was less intense, but accidentally ended up on the green track.
It was the most intense ride I've ever done. It was smooth, and even the inversion was super seamless. But the near constant up and down motion going over hills is what I remember being really rough. For me, at least. And I've done several launches, but these seemed more intense to me. I personally have nothing else to compare it to, but I know a lot of people tend to compare it to Velocicoaster.
I could absolutely see how someone would be thrown around if unconscious. And if they rode toward the back it would be even worse. It'll be interesting to see what other information comes out about this. Like, there must be others who have passed out on this ride.
So you think they will just keep it as is? Add a warning that says, "If there's a chance you could pass out, don't ride this coaster!" ?I don't see it happening. It would costs millions to do that. Adding over the shoulder restraints wouldn't change much. Instead of hitting his head on the head rest, he would hit the restraints instead.
IMO, I find it to be a bigger and smoother take on VelocicoasterFor those who have been on - is it particularly rough or intense? What coaster would you compare it to?
Ngl thats an absolute insane warning and should be laughed off and hold absolutely no weight. Most people don't even know if they're going to pass out. These coasters should be designed so that the rag dolls/mannequins they tested it with should be under NO danger. Coasters like this should be exceedingly safe and passing out is not an acceptance reason for safety to be ignored. The coaster needs to undergo changes. This should not happen, at all.So you think they will just keep it as is? Add a warning that says, "If there's a chance you could pass out, don't ride this coaster!" ?
Too much risk in all honest. They'd redesign restraints or something to prevent it before adding that warning (it'd scare too many people from riding and is pretty vague in its language legally speaking).So you think they will just keep it as is? Add a warning that says, "If there's a chance you could pass out, don't ride this coaster!" ?
yeah that wouldn’t even be a bandaid fix. Not to mention this is already a death in less than half a year? How many more people could be claimed by this coaster before that warning is deemed “insufficient”Too much risk in all honest. They'd redesign restraints or something to prevent it before adding that warning (it'd scare too many people from riding and is pretty vague in its language legally speaking).
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