News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

Maeryk

Maeryk

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Rodan75 said:
The Epcot theme purist is more a general comment that you can't argue with someone who has such a locked viewpoint. As I've mentioned before, I loved the old EPCOT and had a special connection to it when I was a kid. But now after years of neglect I can accept that it needs updating and that the mass majority of folks are okay with seeing the old EPCOT die. I would like to see an updated expression of Theme executed well in the the former Future World. I do not want to see them simply add disparate components absent an overriding theme.

I think USF is a good comparison to what is happening with Epcot, USF was allowed to rot for far too long with Fan Favorite attractions that were great, but didn't receive the care they deserved. Universal fans have generally accepted the changes over the last 5 years and attendance has gone up. Between what Uni is doing and what Disney did with the DCA Tower, they have to see that there path is clear to make major changes to Epcot.
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My hope is that they do something that is rather unique with this.. instead of just making a "look, we are GOTG and in a space thingy!" that since disney owns it, lock stock and barrel, they are going to actually do an immersive, themed to EPCOT, educational, but mildly thrilling ride.

I realize I may well be dissapointed. But if I were in charge, that's what I'd do. Make both sides happy. Keep the "message" but present it with currently popular faces. you know, kinda like they did with Alex Trebek his moustache, Russell, Bill Nye, and Ellen. Use currently hot characters to present the story and impart the information. And do it in an entertaining and memorable way.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Maeryk said:
My hope is that they do something that is rather unique with this.. instead of just making a "look, we are GOTG and in a space thingy!" that since disney owns it, lock stock and barrel, they are going to actually do an immersive, themed to EPCOT, educational, but mildly thrilling ride.

I realize I may well be dissapointed. But if I were in charge, that's what I'd do. Make both sides happy. Keep the "message" but present it with currently popular faces. you know, kinda like they did with Alex Trebek his moustache, Russell, Bill Nye, and Ellen. Use currently hot characters to present the story and impart the information. And do it in an entertaining and memorable way.
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It's not going to be educational at all. Just accept that now. It'll instead be a cool and funny E Ticket with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
21stamps

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Ok, I haven't read all of the pages.. but rumor is this is going to be Flying Dutchman?

Really? That's sounds so far out there to me.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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The_Jobu said:
No I said they're not interchangeable. Which they're not.
Changing goal posts and cheap insults not required.
Are we done here, or are you going to continue arguing the Marvel brand doesn't exist and we should all call them Disney comics?
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When did I ever say that Marvel doesn't exist? My point is that you cannot treat Marvel as 'just some IP' when it is just as much a Disney IP as Tron, Rat, or Frozen.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Mike S said:
It's not going to be educational at all. Just accept that now. It'll instead be a cool and funny E Ticket with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
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We do not know that. It might very well be the case, but it isn't a known quantity currently.

Also, the 20+ year old information on Universe of Energy is hardly educational now anyway. Its not like its been updated to keep with the current energy trends.
 
Tom Morrow

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People getting mad at the use of the term IP and retorting that everything at WDW is "IP": yes, it's true we're using the term a little too loosely, but what we really mean is shoe-horning in franchises, typically ones that are currently hot, into places where they don't thematically fit, in addition to the new idea of creating attractions based on branding rather than original stories and creations.

Bill Nye, Ellen, and Jeopardy are "IP" in a sense, but it's not like the ride was The Jeopardy Ride, it just used Jeopardy as a storytelling device.

You can argue about how The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror is Twilight Zone IP, but it only used it to create a proper tone for the attraction.
Mike S said:
It's not going to be educational at all. Just accept that now. It'll instead be a cool and funny E Ticket with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Yeah, think of how annoyed Guardians fans would be if they came to experience a Guardians ride, only to have Star Lord lecture them about green energy and wind power.

Also, they've already done this at Epcot twice now. Nemo could have still been an educational ride, say, a field trip through tropical reefs with Mr. Ray. Instead they just gave you the cliff notes retelling of the movie, Fantasyland-style. Frozen could have perhaps at least included some nods to Norwegian culture, but it doesn't, other than "but the movie itself was influenced by the culture!"
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Kamikaze said:
We do not know that. It might very well be the case, but it isn't a known quantity currently.

Also, the 20+ year old information on Universe of Energy is hardly educational now anyway. Its not like its been updated to keep with the current energy trends.
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A real shame too not that it matters now.
Tom Morrow said:
Yeah, think of how annoyed Guardians fans would be if they came to experience a Guardians ride, only to have Star Lord lecture them about green energy and wind power.

Also, they've already done this at Epcot twice now. Nemo could have still been an educational ride, say, a field trip through tropical reefs with Mr. Ray. Instead they just gave you the cliff notes retelling of the movie, Fantasyland-style. Frozen could have perhaps at least included some nods to Norwegian culture, but it doesn't, other than "but the movie itself was influenced by the culture!"
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Bingo.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Can someone get me up to speed?

This is a coaster right?
We just don't know what type?
Possible rumors are Flying Dutchman (or similar)?- I'm going to call No Way on that.

Is Vekoma doing it? Any details at all?

Here's my thoughts, without any inside knowledge..
There will be screens.. it won't be too thrilling, but will be a lot of fun.. will be an indoor ride..
the rest- TBD.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Mike S said:
A real shame too not that it matters now.
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Right - but its the main reason why all the complaining is nonsense. UoE, as it stands, is not a good attraction for many reasons. Being dated is just one of them. There is no way they can screw up GotG enough to not make it better than what currently exists.

If they had been doing updates, I could see the argument from the other side.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Kamikaze said:
Right - but its the main reason why all the complaining is nonsense. UoE, as it stands, is not a good attraction for many reasons. Being dated is just one of them. There is no way they can screw up GotG enough to not make it better than what currently exists.

If they had been doing updates, I could see the argument from the other side.
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I think you think I'm against this ride when I'm not.

We lost the battle and the war. All I'm hoping for now is Dreamfinder's return. The rest of the park will never be what it once was.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Dapper Dan said:
Leaving attractions to rot for years just so you can trot out the old, "The place was dated and falling apart, I'm just glad they finally decided to do SOMETHING with it" argument appears to be an effective strategy for Disney to use against that whole pesky thematic integrity thing.
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Nothing else thats been replaced really gets 'dated' however. The problem when you're dealing with technology and science is that you're going to have the information become 'old' and need to be updated. Introducing Nemo into The Living Seas - yes, they swapped out the ride, but the ride itself wasn't outdated. Maelstrom wasn't outdated.
 
networkpro

networkpro

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Yes
The real shame is that the permanent Worlds Fair concept of Epcot has been dead for quite a while and finally the Disney Company has decided to fix it by replacing those aspects that clearly haven't met the test of time. We'll still have cultural representatives from friendly countries with foodstuffs tweaked for the average US palate, but this edutainment for non-cultural items is getting the heave-ho. Technology and how its applied has become either too political or too outdated to spark anything but contempt from the average guest.
 

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