News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

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georgep148

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DCLcruiser said:
I'd much rather VQ than standby (unless I can rope drop). Now you can continue to ride the rest of EPCOT while you wait.
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Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea of the virtual queue, and being able to see more of the park in the meantime, but my point is that as an international guest, I would be more willing to wait hours to get on the guardians ride than a local guest who has been on several times already. They might not have even bothered with a short queue, but could end up with a boarding group instead of us simply because they know how to work the app better. There’s nothing to discourage them trying to get a boarding group, like a long standby queue would. If I was local, I’m sure I would probably prefer this system too.
 
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doctornick

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georgep148 said:
Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea of the virtual queue, and being able to see more of the park in the meantime, but my point is that as an international guest, I would be more willing to wait hours to get on the guardians ride than a local guest who has been on several times already.
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i mean yes and no. I think it's probably locals who can go to the parks more regularly who might have more tolerance for massive lines for a new ride. People who are at WDW for a limited time on vacation might be very hesitant to use up a huge chunk of their vacation time waiting in a line for just one ride. That is especially true for guests who have wait intolerant members of their party (elderly who cannot stand for that long, young children who are impatient, etc).

I get that there is plusses and minuses to any system, but boarding passes for a new attraction seem to me to be the most overall guest friendly solution. Of course like any option, there are some that will benefit and others that are adversely affected by any particular system.
 
DCLcruiser

DCLcruiser

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MickeyLuv'r said:
Unless you lose the lottery.

Then you are - more or less- stuck in Epcot until 2pm with no way to ride.

Or you can forgo using your park ticket, but that isn't a great option either.
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Yes, you need to be strategic. Or pay for the ILL.
georgep148 said:
Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea of the virtual queue, and being able to see more of the park in the meantime, but my point is that as an international guest, I would be more willing to wait hours to get on the guardians ride than a local guest who has been on several times already. They might not have even bothered with a short queue, but could end up with a boarding group instead of us simply because they know how to work the app better. There’s nothing to discourage them trying to get a boarding group, like a long standby queue would. If I was local, I’m sure I would probably prefer this system too.
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Just pay for the ILL. I get your issue, and I am not local (granted not Int'l), but I have one shot to ride as well. Eventually, GotG will get a standby, just like the other new rides.
 
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DCBaker

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Park reservations for the previews have started being added to MDE -

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georgep148

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doctornick said:
i mean yes and no. I think it's probably locals who can go to the parks more regularly who might have more tolerance for massive lines for a new ride. People who are at WDW for a limited time on vacation might be very hesitant to use up a huge chunk of their vacation time waiting in a line for just one ride. That is especially true for guests who have wait intolerant members of their party (elderly who cannot stand for that long, young children who are impatient, etc).

I get that there is plusses and minuses to any system, but boarding passes for a new attraction seem to me to be the most overall guest friendly solution. Of course like any option, there are some that will benefit and others that are adversely affected by any particular system.
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You’re absolutely right, and it’s worth noting I’m particularly looking forward to this guardians ride. I’m tech savvy enough to get my head around the app, but the fact that you’ve either secured or missed your chance to get on the ride before the park even opens doesn’t seem particularly guest friendly to me.
DCLcruiser said:
Yes, you need to be strategic. Or pay for the ILL.

Just pay for the ILL. I get your issue, and I am not local (granted not Int'l), but I have one shot to ride as well. Eventually, GotG will get a standby, just like the other new rides.
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For sure, we will absolutely try to get the ILL as a priority, and being in an on site hotel I’m hoping we should be ok. When you’ve spent so much to get there, it’s a lot easier to justify the ILL, but I’d still ultimately rather just wait in a queue!
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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DCLcruiser said:
Just pay for the ILL. I get your issue, and I am not local (granted not Int'l), but I have one shot to ride as well. Eventually, GotG will get a standby, just like the other new rides.
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I'm guessing it will be difficult to get an ILL when the ride first opens -- they'll likely sell out almost immediately because people want to guarantee a ride.
 
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doctornick

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georgep148 said:
You’re absolutely right, and it’s worth noting I’m particularly looking forward to this guardians ride. I’m tech savvy enough to get my head around the app, but the fact that you’ve either secured or missed your chance to get on the ride before the park even opens doesn’t seem particularly guest friendly to me.
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See to me, at lease knowing for (reasonably) certain at the start of the day whether I can ride it or not would be a lot better in terms of being able to have the proper mindset and plans for the day and is guest friendly. I would find it stressful not knowing what the line would be like and how much time I would potentially lose by having a massive standby and then having the risk of the ride breaking down and having any waiting be in vain.

To each there own, but we were at Uni the week after Hagrid's opened and didn't get to ride because of the (IMHO) horrendous queue situation. There was just no way my family was going to wait in a 3 to 4 or more hour long queue in the midday sun (the ride typically didn't even open until noon by which time a massive line had already formed) for a single ride. But I would have absolutely loved if there was a virtual queue like the boarding passes Disney uses. Or heck even a paid option to avoid the line.

Personally, I think Disney is doing the correct thing here with a virtual queue. It's a great way to manage new rides especially if they are unreliable.
 
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Casper Gutman

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UNCgolf said:
I'm guessing it will be difficult to get an ILL when the ride first opens -- they'll likely sell out almost immediately because people want to guarantee a ride.
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And if you’re not staying on property, you’re probably completely out of luck. And there is absolutely no reason at all to stay on property with the absurd prices they charge and the diminished service they offer.
 
Anteater

Anteater

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doctornick said:
See to me, at lease knowing for (reasonably) certain at the start of the day whether I can ride it or not would be a lot better in terms of being able to have the proper mindset and plans for the day and is guest friendly. I would find it stressful not knowing what the line would be like and how much time I would potentially lose by having a massive standby and then having the risk of the ride breaking down and having any waiting be in vain.

To each there own, but we were at Uni the week after Hagrid's opened and didn't get to ride because of the (IMHO) horrendous queue situation. There was just no way my family was going to wait in a 3 to 4 or more hour long queue in the midday sun (the ride typically didn't even open until noon by which time a massive line had already formed) for a single ride. But I would have absolutely loved if there was a virtual queue like the boarding passes Disney uses. Or heck even a paid option to avoid the line.

Personally, I think Disney is doing the correct thing here with a virtual queue. It's a great way to manage new rides especially if they are unreliable.
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Still seems to me that a vq lottery would work well here. That way, one isn't dependent on Fast Fingers in the morning or a good wifi signal. You'd get your ability to plan your day while not having to be up and clicking refresh at 7am every morning.
 
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celluloid

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It will maybe not be a guarantee but if the ride is operating at least most of its theoretical capacity, guests are only initially permitted one ride per day, the height requirements, rollercoaster thrill that many avoid and the fact that you can only get on a reservation if you started in EPCOT that day should help the odds that a high percentage of people who want to will ride.
 
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doctornick

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Anteater said:
Still seems to me that a vq lottery would work well here. That way, one isn't dependent on Fast Fingers in the morning or a good wifi signal. You'd get your ability to plan your day while not having to be up and clicking refresh at 7am every morning.
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Sure, that's fair. I have no problem with a lottery as opposed to a crapshoot in terms of fastest speed with an app. Probably more fair since it wouldn't benefit repeat uses who are skilled in the process.

I just think a virtual queue is better than standby for a new ride that will have massive demand.
 
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UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Anteater said:
Still seems to me that a vq lottery would work well here. That way, one isn't dependent on Fast Fingers in the morning or a good wifi signal. You'd get your ability to plan your day while not having to be up and clicking refresh at 7am every morning.
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All VQs starting with ROTR should have been handled this way; it's a more equitable solution.

I don't expect them to change the process now, though.
 
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fgmnt

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UNCgolf said:
All VQs starting with ROTR should have been handled this way; it's a more equitable solution.

I don't expect them to change the process now, though.
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VQ opens at 7, closes at 8, boarding group # assigned at random when you scan into the park/by 10 am.

I think the number 1 appeal of the VQ system is easing the transition of these newer and potentially more complex rides from Development to Operations. You will get dissatisfied guests if they can't VQ into the ride they want so bad; you will get enraged guests if they standby for 4 hours, only for the ride to 101 right before they approach the loading area.

(The actual #1 is being able to siphon off the general VQ into a triple-dipping of guest money on ILLs, but I can pretend a bit here for the sake of ride op and guest relations CMs who don't need the undue harassment they're more likely to get targeted with otherwise)
 
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DCBaker

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Emails have begun going out for the AP previews. Here's the included details (it is basically just like the initial confirmation) -
  • At the time of your Registered Preview, head to the World Discovery neighborhood at EPCOT®.
  • Entry to the Annual Passholder Preview of Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind can be found in front of the attraction located to the left of Mission: SPACE. Look for the Cast Members with iPads to check-in.
  • All registered guests must be present and will need to show their valid Annual Pass card and photo ID to enter.
  • One printed copy of your confirmation page
 

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