News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[Movielover]

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How many rings does GotG represent. I count only one. If it doesn’t meet at least two, does it belong in Epcot?

Technology because there is quite a bit of Technology used throughout this attraction, including what has been noted as pretty impressive projection Technology.
Entertainment, because all the reviews I have seen have indicated its a really fun ride. So there, it meets 2 so it belongs in Epcot!

 

[James Alucobond]

Technology because there is quite a bit of Technology used throughout this attraction, including what has been noted as pretty impressive projection Technology.
Entertainment, because all the reviews I have seen have indicated its a really fun ride. So there, it meets 2 so it belongs in Epcot!

I mean, I'm pretty sure "technology" means that it's supposed to showcase how modern technology and innovation are impacting our lives and building a better tomorrow, not that it's supposed to just be a technically impressive ride. The pavilion actually kind of alludes to this by ostensibly being an opportunity for Earthlings to experience Xandarian hyperjump technology, but it's really pushing the theme when you veer into science fantasy. I guess it's ultimately not that much worse than Space 220's fake orbital elevator, which would probably just get shredded by space debris in reality.

 

[doctornick]

I mean, I'm pretty sure "technology" means that it's supposed to showcase how modern technology and innovation are impacting our lives and building a better tomorrow, not that it's supposed to just be a technically impressive ride. The pavilion actually kind of alludes to this by ostensibly being an opportunity for Earthlings to experience Xandarian hyperjump technology, but it's really pushing the theme when you veer into science fantasy. I guess it's ultimately not that much worse than Space 220's fake orbital elevator, which would probably just get shredded by space debris in reality.

It would be interesting to me if the queue (and I like the idea of a non queue area that people could visit without doing the ride) had the Xandarians discussing items of MCU technology in terms of how they might actually be able to exist in reality. Like a real world spin on what might be possible in the future. Stuff like nanotechnology or hyperspace jumps or or even the bionic supports Rhodes uses to walk, etc.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The Spaceship Earth lighting really throws some lumens at the gravity building unfortunately.

What are the Xandarians hiding in there? Are they conducting research on humans?!!11/1?

 

[mysto]

My money is on no permanent sign and a short while after opening a temporary mobile sign will be near the entrance.

I predict it will be marked by one of those round "line starts here" signs.
Mr. Mysto has spoken.

 

[montyz81]

Technology because there is quite a bit of Technology used throughout this attraction, including what has been noted as pretty impressive projection Technology.
Entertainment, because all the reviews I have seen have indicated its a really fun ride. So there, it meets 2 so it belongs in Epcot!

It’s not about tech knowledge though. Nobody is going to learn about any of the tech on the ride.

 

[Incomudro]

It’s not about tech knowledge though. Nobody is going to learn about any of the tech on the ride.

Nobody is visiting these parks to learn about tech.
People really need to get over that.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Nobody is visiting these parks to learn about tech.
People really need to get over that.

You are right. The original focus was much more of a technology evolution showcase.

The piece that is the most disappointing is the loss of inspiration. While it's possible that someone could be inspired by this, the focus is entertainment. "People go on vacation to be in a fantasy, distracted from the real world" (And now a highly branded fantasy that hopefully drives merch sales.) The issue is that is the mantra of virtually every theme park, succeeding to various degrees. Epcot was different. Even as the edutainment idea waned, it was still about hopeful inspiration at its core. That there were things to discover in our actual world that were, down to it, pretty cool. And I think the majority of people who considered themselves Epcot fans, casual and dedicated, felt that - maybe if only subconsciously.

The reason I think the reaction is so strong for many of us is that there is no alternative. If I'm annoyed by what Disney is doing with their Star Wars franchises, I can go to their other parks - or Universal. If their hotels are now too pricey with little benefits, I can literally go to Bonnet Creek or Hotel Plaza Blvd. and be on property but not. If I miss the backlot tour at Studios, Universal Hollywood's is alive and well (and likely better in many ways). Plus, this isn't a movie. When you remake the live action Lion King, the original still exists as something to experience. In the physical world of a theme park, it doesn't work that way.

I by no means want Epcot to be a museum. It's needed significant investment since I worked there in 2002. But, I wanted the central theme and mission to remain. There isn't an alternative to the original idea of Epcot Center. When it is mortally wounded like this, you can't go down the street to the competitor. It's gone. And, that is pretty sad.

 

[Incomudro]

You are right. The original focus was much more of a technology evolution showcase.

The piece that is the most disappointing is the loss of inspiration. While it's possible that someone could be inspired by this, the focus is entertainment. "People go on vacation to be in a fantasy, distracted from the real world" (And now a highly branded fantasy that hopefully drives merch sales.) The issue is that is the mantra of virtually every theme park, succeeding to various degrees. Epcot was different. Even as the edutainment idea waned, it was still about hopeful inspiration at its core. That there were things to discover in our actual world that were, down to it, pretty cool. And I think the majority of people who considered themselves Epcot fans, casual and dedicated, felt that - maybe if only subconsciously.

The reason I think the reaction is so strong for many of us is that there is no alternative. If I'm annoyed by what Disney is doing with their Star Wars franchises, I can go to their other parks - or Universal. If their hotels are now too pricey with little benefits, I can literally go to Bonnet Creek or Hotel Plaza Blvd. and be on property but not. If I miss the backlot tour at Studios, Universal Hollywood's is alive and well (and likely better in many ways). Plus, this isn't a movie. When you remake the live action Lion King, the original still exists as something to experience. In the physical world of a theme park, it doesn't work that way.

I by no means want Epcot to be a museum. It's needed significant investment since I worked there in 2002. But, I wanted the central theme and mission to remain. There isn't an alternative to the original idea of Epcot Center. When it is mortally wounded like this, you can't go down the street to the competitor. It's gone. And, that is pretty sad.

I get that.
I myself loved what it was, and loved that hopeful inspiration message - and "things to discover in our actual world" - I like that line.
I've always been the kind of person who is fascinated with the world around me, and I've tried to teach that to my son's.
I suppose that I just don't care about finding that stuff in Epcot anymore.
Maybe the parks are just to busy, and too crowded for that to matter to me anymore?
Couple that with how much of a project just doing a WDW vacation has become. (Different for a day guest, I suppose.)
I just want beauty, and fun.
I don't like everything going on in Epcot, as I hate the barges in the lagoon.
But the lack of a message or cohesion of the park? Yes, I suppose I'm one of the guilty one's who it just doesn't matter too much to anymore.

 

[Tjaden]

Nobody is visiting these parks to learn about tech.
People really need to get over that.

Never. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they don't and that it's never coming back. However, I'm not going to "get over" it and be fine with the death of edutainment. I'll promote it and remember it because it's what I like even if I realize that others don't and that it doesn't make fiscal sense.

 

[OG Runner]

The custom $100,000,000 screws have arrived!!

I thought Disney built the ride, not the U.S. Government.

 

[Incomudro]

Never. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they don't and that it's never coming back. However, I'm not going to "get over" it and be fine with the death of edutainment. I'll promote it and remember it because it's what I like even if I realize that others don't and that it doesn't make fiscal sense.

You'll need to look for it elsewhere, because it's not coming to Epcot.

 

[Tjaden]

You'll need to look for it elsewhere, because it's not coming to Epcot.

I wouldn't imagine it does in the near future or intermediate future, but that doesn't mean we need to quit the idea because we aren't getting what we want as a vocal minority. Maybe one day the tide will turn or maybe not, but just sitting back and say "Yay Frozen!" does nothing for us either. Let's be honest we aren't wasting time picketing Chapek's office, but a couple posts on a message board takes a few seconds a month of people remembering what we loved about EPCOT is worth the time.

 

[Incomudro]

I wouldn't imagine it does in the near future or intermediate future, but that doesn't mean we need to quit the idea because we aren't getting what we want as a vocal minority. Maybe one day the tide will turn or maybe not, but just sitting back and say "Yay Frozen!" does nothing for us either. Let's be honest we aren't wasting time picketing Chapek's office, but a couple posts on a message board takes a few seconds a month of people remembering what we loved about EPCOT is worth the time.

That future were it to happen, is decades away.
All of this new stuff would have to age out.
At 58 years old, I'll age out before I see that happen.

 

[Tjaden]

That future were it to happen, is decades away.
All of this new stuff would have to age out.
At 58 years old, I'll age out before I see that happen.

Well as being someone half your age I guess I'm an optimist still

Realistically though I highly doubt we see it in my lifetime either, but I still will "fight" (post on the internet) for it.

 

[celluloid]

I think this will depend largely on the content of the 30-minute Galaxarium loop, yes? I also really wish the Galaxarium had a sunken lower level that was accessible even to non-riders with additional exhibits. Would make me feel much better about the whole thing.

Almost like..a Pavilion. Imagine that. Totally agree.

 

[Incomudro]

Well as being someone half your age I guess I'm an optimist still

Realistically though I highly doubt we see it in my lifetime either, but I still will "fight" (post on the internet) for it.

You've got a chance!
Seriously, the course may change and things may come around by then.

 

[celluloid]

I wouldn't imagine it does in the near future or intermediate future, but that doesn't mean we need to quit the idea because we aren't getting what we want as a vocal minority. Maybe one day the tide will turn or maybe not, but just sitting back and say "Yay Frozen!" does nothing for us either. Let's be honest we aren't wasting time picketing Chapek's office, but a couple posts on a message board takes a few seconds a month of people remembering what we loved about EPCOT is worth the time.

That is fair.
Thank goodness for The Living Seas' conservation efforts(although they need more educators or narrations back in the area and Living With The Land. Even if by default left over things are still there.

And Awesome Planet proves that there was a somewhat recent attempt.

 

[Tjaden]

That is fair.
Thank goodness for The Living Seas' conservation efforts(although they need more educators or narrations back in the area and Living With The Land. Even if by default left over things are still there.

And Awesome Planet proves that there was a somewhat recent attempt.

I was going to mention that and I don't think Journey of Water will be completely void of "EPCOTness" even with an IP attachment. We'll see...

 

[fgmnt]

My money is on no permanent sign and a short while after opening a temporary mobile sign will be near the entrance.

I think they are missing an opportunity to do a sign in the vein of Tower of Terror: A Wonders of Xandar sign where under certain conditions, a Guardians logo becomes the primarily visible signage on the same board.