EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[Incomudro]

Why couldn’t they move the building back? There’s a whole bunch of land to the north that was cleared.

A berm large enough to obscure a building this size would be a huge expense. Why build a giant mound and still have a mass of trees looming over your buildings when you could do something else like change the massing of the building and/or sink it down?

Sink it down was what I believe should have been done from the start.
Many poster here have said that couldn't be done due to various reasons.
They built a tub for the World Trade Center, I wish they had done the same for this.

 

[Missing20K]

They didn't have the space to move the building further back, which would have allowed for a berm.

When in conceptual phase and they did eyeline studies, someone should have had the courage to say it was unacceptable and something should have changed.

I’m also unsure what a berm would have done for views from WS unless it was 100 feet tall. Not to mention the entry procession on the monorail.

 

[Tha Realest]

What’s everyone’s estimate on completion? I thought it was much farther along than what it looks like from the latest pictures. If I had to venture a guess I’d say TRON by Memorial Day next year, and this maybe spring 2023?

 

[J4546]

im guessing itll be done in 2022

 

[rle4lunch]

Just think, in the last 5 years they could've planted some aggressively fast growing trees and taken care of a lot this issue. (Like what they do with bamboo)

I know they probably can't plant anything while needing to have construction going on around the building tho. So if they do opt to mask the building somehow, it'll be another half decade before we'll see it.

 

[TikibirdLand]

Just think, in the last 5 years they could've planted some aggressively fast growing trees and taken care of a lot this issue. (Like what they do with bamboo)

I know they probably can't plant anything while needing to have construction going on around the building tho. So if they do opt to mask the building somehow, it'll be another half decade before we'll see it.

Of course, they could have planted Kudzu. I hear it spreads pretty fast. It'll even climb buildings!

 

[Incomudro]

When in conceptual phase and they did eyeline studies, someone should have had the courage to say it was unacceptable and something should have changed.

I’m also unsure what a berm would have done for views from WS unless it was 100 feet tall. Not to mention the entry procession on the monorail.

A berm with trees on it could have at least partially obscured the building.
Just breaking up it's silhouette would have helped.

 

[Disstevefan1]

A berm with trees on it could have at least partially obscured the building.
Just breaking up it's silhouette would have helped.

It’s interesting to discuss sight lines and berms but we are way past that, I just want them to get this peice of cr@p done and take the walls down. I just want the walls down.

 

[MisterPenguin]

A berm with trees on it could have at least partially obscured the building.
Just breaking up it's silhouette would have helped.

That's what the grey and pale blue vertical stripes are for!!

 

[lazyboy97o]

A berm with trees on it could have at least partially obscured the building.
Just breaking up it's silhouette would have helped.

I don’t think you really appreciate the massive amount of earth you would need make a berm tall enough to obscure such a large building. Unless retaining walls were built, the slop of a berm is going to be less than 45 degrees. Just 50’ of height would require over 100’ of depth. And even after all that you’d have a bunch of trees randomly sticking up over the rooflines of the other buildings.

 

[Chupaca Bruh]

They just need to go back to past lessons. I remember seeing photos of the Magic Kingdom when it was being built and was first open. They built high retaining walls to build up a berm against and then plant trees and shrubs to hide the backs of the buildings. It would have been an easy way to assist in hiding this large building.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They just need to go back to past lessons. I remember seeing photos of the Magic Kingdom when it was being built and was first open. They built high retaining walls to build up a berm against and then plant trees and shrubs to hide the backs of the buildings. It would have been an easy way to assist in hiding this large building. View attachment 574194

No, a berm would not have been an easy way to hide the building. There’s a huge different in scale between the Fantasyland East show building and the Sausalito box. A 30’ tall building can be obscured by regular trees on flat ground. A building well over 100’ tall is a completely different order of magnitude.

 

[FigmentFan82]

I don’t think you really appreciate the massive amount of earth you would need make a berm tall enough to obscure such a large building. Unless retaining walls were built, the slop of a berm is going to be less than 45 degrees. Just 50’ of height would require over 100’ of depth. And even after all that you’d have a bunch of trees randomly sticking up over the rooflines of the other buildings.

hey! this is no place for logic and well thought reasoning!

 

[rle4lunch]

No, a berm would not have been an easy way to hide the building. There’s a huge different in scale between the Fantasyland East show building and the Sausalito box. A 30’ tall building can be obscured by regular trees on flat ground. A building well over 100’ tall is a completely different order of magnitude.

Sorry, wrong franchise, but you get the point.

 

[Incomudro]

That's what the grey and pale blue vertical stripes are for!!

Like the dazzle camouflage that navy ships used!

 

[Missing20K]

A berm with trees on it could have at least partially obscured the building.
Just breaking up it's silhouette would have helped.

Suppose those ideas would work (I don’t believe the would), neither of those fixes would do anything about the change in the procession when entering the park on the monorail.

 

[Missing20K]

I don’t think you really appreciate the massive amount of earth you would need make a berm tall enough to obscure such a large building. Unless retaining walls were built, the slop of a berm is going to be less than 45 degrees. Just 50’ of height would require over 100’ of depth. And even after all that you’d have a bunch of trees randomly sticking up over the rooflines of the other buildings.

A retaining wall that tall would prob need steppes in it anyway unless you’d use very, very thick precast.

Although, at least then they could have themed it “Peter Quill really likes béton brut” or some such instead of “what’s that big box? Oh it’s the building for GotG”

 

[Incomudro]

Suppose those ideas would work (I don’t believe the would), neither of those fixes would do anything about the change in the procession when entering the park on the monorail.

No, they wouldn't - but they would have solved some in park views.

 

[Bocabear]

a berm would work, if they could sink the building 60 feet into the ground and only 40' was above...But no, it would never work in this situation.

 

[DisneyDean97]

What’s everyone’s estimate on completion? I thought it was much farther along than what it looks like from the latest pictures. If I had to venture a guess I’d say TRON by Memorial Day next year, and this maybe spring 2023?

I think the common consensus is Tron will open early next year, and GOTG won't be too far behind, either summer 2022, or save it for Epcot's 40th, in October.