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[Tha Realest]

You’re probably 3-4 bags too many there. This wouldn’t be as big as payday as many think it is. My guess is she probably got as much as she would have gotten for that Ranger series plus legal fees, max $10M is my guess.

Probably Ranger series (as a lead, mind you) plus maybe whatever she would’ve made for half a season of S3 of Mando…

 

[Phroobar]

Bad acting is sort of a Star Wars thing.

Boo!

 

[Disney Irish]

Probably Ranger series (as a lead, mind you) plus maybe whatever she would’ve made for half a season of S3 of Mando…

As I’ve said before there was no guarantee she was to be in Season 3, so don’t know why some of you bring that up.

Anyways the overall point was this probably isn’t some huge payday, it’s minor in the large scheme of things.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

You’re probably 3-4 bags too many there. This wouldn’t be as big as payday as many think it is. My guess is she probably got as much as she would have gotten for that Ranger series plus legal fees, max $10M is my guess.

I would be shocked and appalled if she got that much. Any future employment for her was theoretical. She wasn't removed as a series regular nor offered a lead role in any other series.

If Disney paid that much and it leaks, it sets a bad precedent for them.

Of course, the money was more about avoiding the publicity of a trial so I don't really know what that was worth to Disney.

 

[Dranth]

Funny, if you had read anything I posted, you'd see I am not supporting either person. Both should have just kept their mouth shut. I'm not supporting Gina, I'm going against Disney and how they handle these type of things.

I have no issues with either of them speaking their mind. People just can't expect to not get called out on it by those that disagree which is where she ran into a problem.

 

[Disney Irish]

I would be shocked and appalled if she got that much. Any future employment for her was theoretical. She wasn't removed as a series regular nor offered a lead role in any other series.

If Disney paid that much and it leaks, it sets a bad precedent for them.

Of course, the money was more about avoiding the publicity of a trial so I don't really know what that was worth to Disney.

I mean sure, but what is $10M to Disney? Its chump change, a rounding error. So if that makes this go away, or at least out of the headlines once the initial 24 hour news cycle ends (I'm sure we'll be talking about it for months as we always do around here), it was probably worth it.

Also when you think about how much Pedro got paid for Last of Us (Mando salary isn't know) it was about $600K per episode, so about $5.4M total, add in some legal fees and you can see where I got the figure of $10M. But yeah maybe its less, maybe closer to $5M, still probably worth it in the end.

 

[Phroobar]

I'll give you $0.99 for it...

 

[Disney Irish]

99 cents seems like a fair offer, just don't ask what I'll do with it once I receive it.

Just to give you a hint....

 

[erasure fan1]

She LITTERALLY made that comparison herself, not me, so how am I classifying an entire group?

I know what Gina said and I spoke against it. Pedro posted what I said, and I've brought it up MANY times now. You said get back to you, so I did. Maybe you didn't see the post? Or you don't think it's that bad. I don't know, that's what I'm finding out.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I know what Gina said and I spoke against it. Pedro posted what I said, and I've brought it up MANY times now. You said get back to you, so I did. Maybe you didn't see the post? Or you don't think it's that bad. I don't know, that's what I'm finding out.

Are you referring to this comment? "Answer me this. Is calling someone a Nazi slave owner because of their political stance a bad thing? As bad as what Gina said? I would like an answer."

If so, I think it's easy to miss, as your comment didn't mention Pascal and it was quoted in response to another user. If it's something else, I think I missed it too.

 

[Disney Irish]

Are you referring to this comment? "Answer me this. Is calling someone a Nazi slave owner because of their political stance a bad thing? As bad as what Gina said? I would like an answer."

If so, I think it's easy to miss, as your comment didn't mention Pascal and it was quoted in response to another user. If it's something else, I think I missed it too.

I believe they are talking about Pedro's posts (from 2018 mind you) that is trying to be compared as "equally bad" as Gina's.

To me, and I've said it a bunch of times now, the posts themselves are irrelevant. Its the actions of both "offenders" involved that is important, as both didn't react "equally". And so that is really where this "equal treatment" thing should be directed. If both reacted "equal" then both deserve "equal treatment". Since they didn't both react "equally" the treatment should be different based on the reaction of both. In this case, one complied, and the other didn't which resulted in the one that didn't not getting a renewed contract. Plain and simple.

 

[Tha Realest]

As I’ve said before there was no guarantee she was to be in Season 3, so don’t know why some of you bring that up.

Anyways the overall point was this probably isn’t some huge payday, it’s minor in the large scheme of things.

The filings in the proceedings are public. I’m not sure if you’ve looked them up, but you might want to do so. The last big thing that happened in this case appears to be an order compelling Disney to turn over to Carano the pay arrangements with Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, and Rosario Dawson. Those are the comparables they were looking at. Not Bill Burr or Amy Sedaris, but the top billed cast and the recurring cast. One would have to figure they negotiated out a settlement keyed off of those salaries/payments.

 

[Disney Irish]

The filings in the proceedings are public. I’m not sure if you’ve looked them up, but you might want to do so. The last big thing that happened in this case appears to be an order compelling Disney to turn over to Carano the pay arrangements with Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, and Rosario Dawson. Those are the comparables they were looking at. Not Bill Burr or Amy Sedaris, but the top billed cast and the recurring cast. One would have to figure they negotiated out a settlement keyed off of those salaries/payments.

And? If you look at what I figured the payout would be its based on Pedro's $600K per episode for Last of Us (since Mando isn't public information), which totaled $5.4M, and then added in some legal fees for a total of a what I guess to be a max $10M payout. That isn't a huge payout for these type of things, and certainly isn't huge for Disney.

I would honestly be surprised if it was more than that.

 

[Dranth]

I know what Gina said and I spoke against it. Pedro posted what I said, and I've brought it up MANY times now. You said get back to you, so I did. Maybe you didn't see the post? Or you don't think it's that bad. I don't know, that's what I'm finding out.

They both posted less than friendly opinions to put it kindly, but Pedro REMOVED his while Gina kept posting and doubling down repeatedly. I can understand someone saying something stupid and then taking it down after realizing they went too far, but that isn't what she did so I don't find their situations very comparable. Had she done what he did and then was still let go, I could see why people would be upset.

 

[erasure fan1]

Well I hope that is true, because if you're really for equality then maybe Gina isn't the person you should be putting up as some poster child for that even in this instance. Her stance on many things goes against this idea of equality that you seem to strive for. So I wouldn't be backing her if I were you.

I Won't respond to the rest because we'll be just going back and forth forever. I whole heartedly believe "it's just the way the world is" is not a great excuse. But to what I quoted. That's where your whole argument falls apart. I'm not making Gina a poster child of anything. And I surely "haven't backed her". Because I condemn both comments, I'm backing her. Got it. It shows you aren't listening or just don't want to.

Sorry I lied, one last thing. Of course you wouldn't answer the question. I figured you wouldn't but oh well, par for the course.

 

[Disney Irish]

I Won't respond to the rest because we'll be just going back and forth forever. I whole heartedly believe "it's just the way the world is" is not a great excuse. But to what I quoted. That's where your whole argument falls apart. I'm not making Gina a poster child of anything. And I surely "haven't backed her". Because I condemn both comments, I'm backing her. Got it. It shows you aren't listening or just don't want to.

Sorry I lied, one last thing. Of course you wouldn't answer the question. I figured you wouldn't but oh well, par for the course.

And I applaud and agree with you condemning both, as both made stupid posts. But that isn't the point, you're backing her "play" here which is putting her up as the poster child for "equality", even if not intentionally. I've always said the content of the posts are irrelevant, its the actions of both after the posts that should be looked at, as both are not "equal".

You are about "equality" (and I can sort of get behind that) but you can't get past the posts themselves and look at the real "equality" of the situation. And I think its because of the disdain you have for Disney and in this context their handling of Star Wars. As you've always framed this has "you're against Disney's handling", but yet aren't actually looking at the actual situation as it shouldn't be looked at as Pedro and Gina are "equally at fault here because both posted bad stuff". It should again be look at "What happened after the posts, did both react equally?".

 

[Tha Realest]

And? If you look at what I figured the payout would be its based on Pedro's $600K per episode for Last of Us (since Mando isn't public information), which totaled $5.4M, and then added in some legal fees for a total of a what I guess to be a max $10M payout. That isn't a huge payout for these type of things, and certainly isn't huge for Disney.

I would honestly be surprised if it was more than that.

1) I don’t think she is getting/got $10M.

2) Even if she “only” gets $5-8M, that is still a huge win. Many were dismissing her lawsuit as frivolous when she filed. The fact it progressed this far and was resolved in her favor* says this is a victory.

3) “It’s worth it to Disney to have made this go away.” It would’ve been worth it to settle pre-lawsuit, or a year ago. The headlines do not look great for Disney. Making this “go away” hasn’t been great for them.

*LFL’s statement last week was is an about face from where they were when they made their first statement distancing themselves from her in Feb. 2021.

 

[Disney Irish]

1) I don’t think she is getting/got $10M.

2) Even if she “only” gets $5-8M, that is still a huge win. Many were dismissing her lawsuit as frivolous when she filed. The fact it progressed this far and was resolved in her favor* says this is a victory.

3) “It’s worth it to Disney to have made this go away.” It would’ve been worth it to settle pre-lawsuit, or a year ago. The headlines do not look great for Disney. Making this “go away” hasn’t been great for them.

*LFL’s statement last week was is an about face from where they were when they made their first statement distancing themselves from her in Feb. 2021.

"Huge" is relative here. Also I still don't call it a "win" no matter how you want to frame it, its a settlement there is no "win", both sides walk away without a "win". Now you can say its a "win" for her "side" in the court of public opinion, maybe I'll agree. But as I said before both "sides" will take away whatever they want from this and call it a "win", so not really saying much there.

In the end it remains to be seen what if anything this will do to her career. Casting directors will still likely be less than willing to hire her because of the optics and the potential for future tweets that will blow back on them. And I'd be surprised if she'll ever play Cara Dune again even after this.

So in the end not sure what the "win" is if all she got was some money, end result is still the same.

 

[Willmark]

2) Even if she “only” gets $5-8M, that is still a huge win. Many were dismissing her lawsuit as frivolous when she filed. The fact it progressed this far and was resolved in her favor* says this is a victory.

This is the part that I think both “sides” are missing, or at least one is. On this site it was dismissed as “nothing burger”, if 5-8 million is nothing, please send it my way.

All kidding aside, Disney is used to being the bully in the legal sense. Prior Disney would have been able to and did use massive amounts of $ for near unlimited fights. The longer it dragged out, the better it was for them in that sense.

Enter Elon Musk.

Whether one likes Musk or not is relevant, he only matters in the story in that he could tell Disney to go pound sand (as he did in far different language).

That set up a showdown that suddenly wasn’t solely on Disney’s terms like it would have been prior. Hence my comment on how hard they fought (“tooth and nail”) to avoid discovery. We’ve only heard her side prior to the settlement so we can’t say for sure but it sure didn’t pain LF in a very positive light.

Disney loses that and suddenly discovery becomes far more damaging. Not a lawyer but logic says Gina’s lawyers tell Disney we want “all comms from X time period to X time period regarding our client” and they balk.

Add to this - we do know that Disney dragged their feet a fair amount in this case.

To all- will we ever know? Obviously not, due to the settlement but from what we’ve seen once discovery was opened up Disney did of want what went on “behind the scenes” as it were to come to light.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is the part that I think both “sides” are missing, or at least one is. On this site it was dismissed as “nothing burger”, if 5-8 million is nothing, please send it my way.

All kidding aside, Disney is used to being the bully in the legal sense. Prior Disney would have been able to and did use massive amounts of $ for near unlimited fights. The longer it dragged out, the better it was for them in that sense.

Enter Elon Musk.

Whether one likes Musk or not is relevant, he only matters in the story in that he could tell Disney to go pound sand (as he did in far different language).

That set up a showdown that suddenly wasn’t solely on Disney’s terms like it would have been prior. Hence my comment on how hard they fought (“tooth and nail”) to avoid discovery. We’ve only heard her side prior to the settlement so we can’t say for sure but it sure didn’t pain LF in a very positive light.

Disney loses that and suddenly discovery becomes far more damaging. Not a lawyer but logic says Gina’s lawyers tell Disney we want “all comms from X time period to X time period regarding our client” and they balk.

Add to this - we do know that Disney dragged their feet a fair amount in this case.

To all- will we ever know? Obviously not, due to the settlement but from what we’ve seen once discovery was opened up Disney did of want what went on “behind the scenes” as it were to come to light.

I don't think its surprising that a studio, any studio, doesn't want their "dirty laundry" aired out in court. Heck no company does which is why most of these type of "he said/she said" cases (which Gina's side was trying to make this case) end up settled. So again not surprising the outcome here.

If some want to draw some conclusions out of these results, they are more than welcome to do so. It however doesn't make it true, as there is nothing we can really conclude from this outcome other than both sides agreed to just drop it, no fault was found.