Fountain View Ice Cream closing in early April for Starbucks conversion

flFigment

Member
Outside companies and labels have had a presence inside the parks since the beginning, the opening day of Disneyland. This isn't anything new. The Starbucks will be themed accordingly. You have nothing to worry about.

Yes they have the big difference that I have discussed with other people is the way that it is brought in and used. Why would stop Disney from working with Starbucks to make their own coffee and market it that way. The Disney of old would have been there is a chance for us to make something good lets do it right and then we partner with a company in industry X that is well known this way we get them to make it so you can only get it here.

Have something that you can only get there. I think it is more that Disney would actually have to spend money in the research and bringing out their own coffee line and have it be good enough to sell and compete with the other well liked coffees. I don't drink the stuff ( I think it is a huge waste of water) but I have heard Starbucks is good, Dunkin Doughnuts and there are many others.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
Yes they have the big difference that I have discussed with other people is the way that it is brought in and used. Why would stop Disney from working with Starbucks to make their own coffee and market it that way. The Disney of old would have been there is a chance for us to make something good lets do it right and then we partner with a company in industry X that is well known this way we get them to make it so you can only get it here.

Have something that you can only get there. I think it is more that Disney would actually have to spend money in the research and bringing out their own coffee line and have it be good enough to sell and compete with the other well liked coffees. I don't drink the stuff ( I think it is a huge waste of water) but I have heard Starbucks is good, Dunkin Doughnuts and there are many others.

I see what you're saying, but prior to Starbucks, Disney still wasn't preparing their own brand of coffee. Nescafe is a brand, too. Why are people complaining about Starbucks, but not Nescafe? Besides the quick service and table restaurants, Disney sometimes lends on others for their products. The ice cream sold in the parks is Dreyer's ice cream (at least the California parks), the Nescafe coffee... Disneyland sold Aunt Jemima pancakes way back, almost sixty years ago.
 

flFigment

Member
I see what you're saying, but prior to Starbucks, Disney still wasn't preparing their own brand of coffee. Nescafe is a brand, too. Why are people complaining about Starbucks, but not Nescafe? Besides the quick service and table restaurants, Disney sometimes lends on others for their products. The ice cream sold in the parks is Dreyer's ice cream (at least the California parks), the Nescafe coffee... Disneyland sold Aunt Jemima pancakes way back, almost sixty years ago.


Its not just Starbucks it is the general over all concept that I am not getting. It seems that you can go a corner with out seeing Starbucks what makes it different at Disney nothing it is just something else that I can get elsewhere but now have to pay Disney prices for it that is all. If I am going to pay Disney prices then make it unique if not then it is the same thing as every where else and the extra that people will pay is the profit to Disney. TDO could at least try and make it look like you are not getting the same thing as you can get everywhere.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
Its not just Starbucks it is the general over all concept that I am not getting. It seems that you can go a corner with out seeing Starbucks what makes it different at Disney nothing it is just something else that I can get elsewhere but now have to pay Disney prices for it that is all. If I am going to pay Disney prices then make it unique if not then it is the same thing as every where else and the extra that people will pay is the profit to Disney. TDO could at least try and make it look like you are not getting the same thing as you can get everywhere.

The prices will be the same as any other Starbucks you can walk into on the street. There's really nothing to worry about. You can even use Starbucks gift cards.
 

dupac

Well-Known Member
I may be wrong, but I don't think this is going to be like any old Starbucks you see on the street back home. It is unique in that aspect.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Its not just Starbucks it is the general over all concept that I am not getting. It seems that you can go a corner with out seeing Starbucks what makes it different at Disney nothing it is just something else that I can get elsewhere but now have to pay Disney prices for it that is all. If I am going to pay Disney prices then make it unique if not then it is the same thing as every where else and the extra that people will pay is the profit to Disney. TDO could at least try and make it look like you are not getting the same thing as you can get everywhere.

What, like coffee? Which they already sold before through Nescafe; not exactly a mom and pop outfit.....

And considering how well the Starbucks in DCA was designed and integrated, I'm sure they'll do the same with the other parks....
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
I may be wrong, but I don't think this is going to be like any old Starbucks you see on the street back home. It is unique in that aspect.

You're right. The Starbucks won't look like this:

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flFigment

Member
What, like coffee? Which they already sold before through Nescafe; not exactly a mom and pop outfit.....

And considering how well the Starbucks in DCA was designed and integrated, I'm sure they'll do the same with the other parks....
Im hoping that is the case that it is integrated and done properly. I did not see them in DCA when I was there so I cant tell you. They did try to sell it through Nescafe but what happened to it?
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Im hoping that is the case that it is integrated and done properly. I did not see them in DCA when I was there so I cant tell you. They did try to sell it through Nescafe but what happened to it?

They sold coffee-flavored syrup through Nescafe. Pretty much sums it up........
 

BoarderPhreak

Well-Known Member
Outside companies are nothing new at WDW. Nestle, AT&T, IBM, HP, this that and the other thing... I suppose I can live with Starbucks - were it not for the fact that a) their coffee stinks, b) it's way overpriced on a good day, and c) they're already on every street corner in the world.

Well the crap they've been serving for years is certainly unique to WDW. Can't get a worse cup of coffee anywhere else. Seriously, whether or not someone hates Starbucks, ANYTHING is better than Nescafe (to be more specific, the way WDW prepares Nescafe)
I've heard on several occasions about how bad the coffee is in the parks... Surprisingly, as much of a coffee guzzler (err, connoisseur) as I am - I don't drink it in the parks that often. But when I do (as recently as December last year) I didn't find it bad. It might not have been good either, necessarily... But I wasn't expecting a gourmet cup, either. I know one thing is certain... I will NEVER drink that Starbucks swill. For one, I can't stand dark roast and two - they're way overpriced outside of the parks... Can you imagine how much a cup would cost in the parks? Oh yay! A $10 cup of coffee that tastes like )(#%!

Sorry, rant over. :D
 

dannyboyindc

Well-Known Member
Outside companies are nothing new at WDW. Nestle, AT&T, IBM, HP, this that and the other thing... I suppose I can live with Starbucks - were it not for the fact that a) their coffee stinks, b) it's way overpriced on a good day, and c) they're already on every street corner in the world.


I've heard on several occasions about how bad the coffee is in the parks... Surprisingly, as much of a coffee guzzler (err, connoisseur) as I am - I don't drink it in the parks that often. But when I do (as recently as December last year) I didn't find it bad. It might not have been good either, necessarily... But I wasn't expecting a gourmet cup, either. I know one thing is certain... I will NEVER drink that Starbucks swill. For one, I can't stand dark roast and two - they're way overpriced outside of the parks... Can you imagine how much a cup would cost in the parks? Oh yay! A $10 cup of coffee that tastes like )(#%!

Sorry, rant over. :D

I'm hearing ya, but you know, coffee at starbucks is about the same as it is everywhere else. I've never understood the perception of it being so much more money than your local coffee shop. It's right around $2 for a 16 ounce cup in most starbucks. Even their specialty drinks are on par with other coffee shop pricing.

Also, you WILL have other choices. In fact Starbucks isn't even the coffee that's replacing Nescafe...it's Joffreys.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Outside companies are nothing new at WDW. Nestle, AT&T, IBM, HP, this that and the other thing... I suppose I can live with Starbucks - were it not for the fact that a) their coffee stinks, b) it's way overpriced on a good day, and c) they're already on every street corner in the world.


I've heard on several occasions about how bad the coffee is in the parks... Surprisingly, as much of a coffee guzzler (err, connoisseur) as I am - I don't drink it in the parks that often. But when I do (as recently as December last year) I didn't find it bad. It might not have been good either, necessarily... But I wasn't expecting a gourmet cup, either. I know one thing is certain... I will NEVER drink that Starbucks swill. For one, I can't stand dark roast and two - they're way overpriced outside of the parks... Can you imagine how much a cup would cost in the parks? Oh yay! A $10 cup of coffee that tastes like )(#%!

Sorry, rant over. :D

No markup for Starbucks coffee in the parks....
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I see what you're saying, but prior to Starbucks, Disney still wasn't preparing their own brand of coffee. Nescafe is a brand, too. Why are people complaining about Starbucks, but not Nescafe? Besides the quick service and table restaurants, Disney sometimes lends on others for their products. The ice cream sold in the parks is Dreyer's ice cream (at least the California parks), the Nescafe coffee... Disneyland sold Aunt Jemima pancakes way back, almost sixty years ago.

Good points raven24, but you are fighting against a revisionist history where young people in the 21st century think that Disneyland and WDW in the 20th century somehow made everything in-house and never let the outside world in. The reality is the exact opposite.

In fact, Walt Disney tried to get as much of the outside world into Disneyland through corporate sponsors as he could. It was cheaper for him that way, and he just made sure his Imagineers dressed the corporate locations up nicely and made sure their sales pitches were graciously presented by good looking young hostesses, with corporate logos prominently sewed onto their Disneyland uniforms. When WDW opened in 1971 that practice continued, and reached its zenith with Epcot Center in 1982 where nearly EVERYTHING in the park was sponsored by corporate America.

In the 1960's Walt didn't even need big corporate names to sponsor stuff. He let his good friend and Hollywood actor Don Defore open up the Silver Banjo Barbeque restaurant in Frontierland, right next to the Aunt Jemima Pancake House. Don Defore's Silver Banjo Barbeque was leased out to the Defore family to run inside Disneyland for years.

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http://www.yesterland.com/images-frontierland/silverbanjo2.jpg

Can you imagine that type setup today? Today's equivalent of that Walt business arrangement would be...Bob Iger lets his golfing buddy Bob Costas own and operate a Bob Costas Café in Disney Hollywood Studios? o_O But Walt did it, and Disneyland continued to thrive. To suggest Disney theme parks have operated differently in the past is simply revisionist history at worst, or uniformed chatter at best.
 

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