Florida resident AP holder: Moving out of state

[thomas998]

Supporting this is in essence , stealing and if many do this the Florida resident pass will go away. Next they will be asking what areas are unguarded so they can climb over the fences.

I'm always baffled that they give the greatest discount to the Florida residents. I've seen some parks where they look at zip codes on your drivers license and people that live further from the park get the greater discounts as it entices them to come back when they are less likely to than someone that lives in the same area as the park... Never have understood the logic in Disney making it cheapest for the people most likely to use it.

 

[flynnibus]

I'm always baffled that they give the greatest discount to the Florida residents. I've seen some parks where they look at zip codes on your drivers license and people that live further from the park get the greater discounts as it entices them to come back when they are less likely to than someone that lives in the same area as the park... Never have understood the logic in Disney making it cheapest for the people most likely to use it.

Because they want the locals to come more often... and make the place more than their "big vacation for the year". Make it into the getaway spot... not just the vacation spot. Make it into the dinner spot not just the vacation spot, etc

 

[larryz]

If someone meets the Florida definition as a state resident and thus is elegible for a Florida drivers license, I don't have an issue. If that includes snowbirds (winter residents who own a home in Florida and pay property taxes), that's good.

As Disney's policy requires a passholder to provide a state issued ID to get the discount, how the State of Florida determines who is a resident is the driving force for me. As I said earlier, to be in possession of a government issued ID that one is no longer entitled to based upon residency and then using that ID to prove residency is fraud.

Since you're not looking at the link I posted above, I'll quote it for your convenience... (underlining mine for emphasis)

Florida Resident Tickets:
Proof of a Florida residential address is required. For each ticket purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida Drivers License (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida State-issued ID Card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following, dated within the past two (2) months evidencing a Florida residential address together with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
Monthly mortgage statement not older than two (2) months old
Deeds, Mortgage Contracts, Mortgage Payment Booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration
Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
Current Utility bill (Power / Phone / Cable / Water)
Bills can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency).

Mail
Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings or investment account statements
Mail from Federal, State, County or City government agencies
Mail can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

One form of Florida residency validation as listed above is required. Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.

 

[larryz]

You are making the rediculous stance that it's the paperwork that entitles you... vs the reality that the pass is intended for a certain audience and the paperwork is just how Disney validates. It's the intent... not what you can get away.

It's a morality point. Prentending to be something you are not to gain a benefit you are not entitled to.

It's DISNEY's stance that the paperwork entitles you, not mine. Read the requirements. They clearly recognize that there will be those who just don't have a Florida DL who might otherwise be entitled to their "resident" AP discount.

 

[flynnibus]

It's DISNEY's stance that the paperwork entitles you, not mine

Disney calls it the 'florida resident' not the 'possessor of select paperwork pass'. The paperwork is to prove your claim... nothing more.

They clearly recognize that there will be those who just don't have a Florida DL who might otherwise be entitled to their "resident" AP discount.

Allowing alternate forms of paperwork has nothing to do with changing the scope of the program.

From Disney's requirements. It's intended for people that own property in Florida - there is no requirement or distinction between part timers and full timers (nor need there be... to be considered a Florida resident).

If you are not a Florida property owner (or coresident with one), or resident of the state... even if you can provide some paperwork that might otherwise pass muster... you are being fraudulent. It's not hard to understand.

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Florida Resident Tickets:
Proof of a Florida residential address is required. For each ticket purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida Drivers License (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida State-issued ID Card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following, dated within the past two (2) months evidencing a Florida residential address together with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
Monthly mortgage statement not older than two (2) months old
Deeds, Mortgage Contracts, Mortgage Payment Booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration
Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
Current Utility bill (Power / Phone / Cable / Water)
Bills can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency).

Mail
Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings or investment account statements
Mail from Federal, State, County or City government agencies
Mail can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

One form of Florida residency validation as listed above is required. Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.
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[LAKid53]

Since you're not looking at the link I posted above, I'll quote it for your convenience... (underlining mine for emphasis)

Florida Resident Tickets:
Proof of a Florida residential address is required. For each ticket purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida Drivers License (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida State-issued ID Card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following, dated within the past two (2) months evidencing a Florida residential address together with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
Monthly mortgage statement not older than two (2) months old
Deeds, Mortgage Contracts, Mortgage Payment Booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration
Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
Current Utility bill (Power / Phone / Cable / Water)
Bills can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency).

Mail
Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings or investment account statements
Mail from Federal, State, County or City government agencies
Mail can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

One form of Florida residency validation as listed above is required. Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.

Thanks. As a Florida resident for over 50 years, I know the documentation needed. Much of what Disney lists as substitution for a Florida DL you need to produce to be issued a DL in Florida.

 

[LAKid53]

I'm always baffled that they give the greatest discount to the Florida residents. I've seen some parks where they look at zip codes on your drivers license and people that live further from the park get the greater discounts as it entices them to come back when they are less likely to than someone that lives in the same area as the park... Never have understood the logic in Disney making it cheapest for the people most likely to use it.

October used to be Florida resident month - we got cheaper tickets that month (in the days before APs). It was a time of low demand and Disney wanted to increase attendance.

 

[LAKid53]

Since you're not looking at the link I posted above, I'll quote it for your convenience... (underlining mine for emphasis)

Florida Resident Tickets:
Proof of a Florida residential address is required. For each ticket purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida Drivers License (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida State-issued ID Card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following, dated within the past two (2) months evidencing a Florida residential address together with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
Monthly mortgage statement not older than two (2) months old
Deeds, Mortgage Contracts, Mortgage Payment Booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration
Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
Current Utility bill (Power / Phone / Cable / Water)
Bills can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency).

Mail
Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings or investment account statements
Mail from Federal, State, County or City government agencies
Mail can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

One form of Florida residency validation as listed above is required. Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.

Disney calls it the 'florida resident' not the 'possessor of select paperwork pass'. The paperwork is to prove your claim... nothing more.



Allowing alternate forms of paperwork has nothing to do with changing the scope of the program.

From Disney's requirements. It's intended for people that own property in Florida - there is no requirement or distinction between part timers and full timers (nor need there be... to be considered a Florida resident).

If you are not a Florida property owner (or coresident with one), or resident of the state... even if you can provide some paperwork that might otherwise pass muster... you are being fraudulent. It's not hard to understand.

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Florida Resident Tickets:
Proof of a Florida residential address is required. For each ticket purchased for an adult, you may provide any of the following:

• Valid Florida Drivers License (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida State-issued ID Card (must have a Florida address)
• Valid Florida-based military ID

If you do not have one of the IDs indicated above, then you must provide one of the following, dated within the past two (2) months evidencing a Florida residential address together with a corresponding picture ID (passport, driver's license, state identification card):

Proof of Current Mortgage
Monthly mortgage statement not older than two (2) months old
Deeds, Mortgage Contracts, Mortgage Payment Booklets and leases are not accepted.

Bills, Policies or Registration
Current homeowner's insurance policy or bill
Current automobile registration, insurance policy or bill
Current Utility bill (Power / Phone / Cable / Water)
Bills can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency).

Mail
Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings or investment account statements
Mail from Federal, State, County or City government agencies
Mail can be no more than two (2) months old (PO Boxes are not accepted as proof of residency)

One form of Florida residency validation as listed above is required. Additional members of the same household must only provide proof of same residential address.

Current statements and bills printed from electronic versions are accepted, along with electronic bills provided via smart phones and tablet devices.
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Yeah, if you're paying property taxes and are entitled to a homestead exemption, you're a Florida resident, even if you only live in Florida January through March....

 

[larryz]

Disney calls it the 'florida resident' not the 'possessor of select paperwork pass'. The paperwork is to prove your claim... nothing more.

Allowing alternate forms of paperwork has nothing to do with changing the scope of the program.

From Disney's requirements. It's intended for people that own property in Florida - there is no requirement or distinction between part timers and full timers (nor need there be... to be considered a Florida resident).

If you are not a Florida property owner (or coresident with one), or resident of the state... even if you can provide some paperwork that might otherwise pass muster... you are being fraudulent. It's not hard to understand.

We're all clearly talking past each other, so this'll be my last post on this matter. Disney's a corporation, and they've set documentation requirements on how to get discounts. Meet the requirements, get the discount. It really is just that simple.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

We're all clearly talking past each other, so this'll be my last post on this matter. Disney's a corporation, and they've set documentation requirements on how to get discounts. Meet the requirements, get the discount. It really is just that simple.

In the OP's situation, you can't meet the requirements. They'll get the voucher while living in Florida but will not be able to show Florida ID after they move out of Florida, which is when they would be trying to claim the actual tickets at Guest Services.

(Unless they move to a state that does not require them to surrender their FL license when they get a new one in that state, and they fraudulently present it as proof of FL residency.)

 

[disneygeek90]

I'm always baffled that they give the greatest discount to the Florida residents. I've seen some parks where they look at zip codes on your drivers license and people that live further from the park get the greater discounts as it entices them to come back when they are less likely to than someone that lives in the same area as the park... Never have understood the logic in Disney making it cheapest for the people most likely to use it.

I don’t agree with this at all. I live 15 minutes away, frequently going to a Disney park or Springs area nearly every week. Whether it’s spending the day there, a few hours, dinner or just drinks. I’m currently on pace to go to a park around 60 days this year. Why wouldn’t they want to entice me to go as often as possible? I’m spending my money at a far more consistent pace than most everyone else.

 

[thomas998]

I don’t agree with this at all. I live 15 minutes away, frequently going to a Disney park or Springs area nearly every week. Whether it’s spending the day there, a few hours, dinner or just drinks. I’m currently on pace to go to a park around 60 days this year. Why wouldn’t they want to entice me to go as often as possible? I’m spending my money at a far more consistent pace than most everyone else.

I'm not saying they don't want you... I'm saying the odds of you going more often than someone with a annual pass that lives in say Ohio is much greater which you've just pretty much proven to be true. Now when that is the case why would you charge someone 100 dollars that is going to use your bathroom everyday and then charge someone else 200 dollars that is only going to use it once a week.

Their pricing doesn't make much sense because if I lived in Orlando I would be willing to pay much more for an annual pass than if I lived in Atlanta... Their pricing would make more sense if it charged people that were more likely to use it more than people that are less likely to use it. Be honest don't you think if you lived further away you would use the park less than when you live in Florida?

You putting more wear and tear on rides shouldn't be provided at a discount to someone that puts less wear and tear on the rides that just doesn't make sense logically.

 

[drizgirl]

I'm always baffled that they give the greatest discount to the Florida residents. I've seen some parks where they look at zip codes on your drivers license and people that live further from the park get the greater discounts as it entices them to come back when they are less likely to than someone that lives in the same area as the park... Never have understood the logic in Disney making it cheapest for the people most likely to use it.

It's because the local AP's are a force that can be easily mobilized on short notice to fill in when attendance or occupancy is low.

 

[thomas998]

It's because the local AP's are a force that can be easily mobilized on short notice to fill in when attendance or occupancy is low.

Given the crowd levels at Disney World these days I'm not sure they need to mobilize that group anymore. Plenty of out of town visitors these days.

 

[drizgirl]

Given the crowd levels at Disney World these days I'm not sure they need to mobilize that group anymore. Plenty of out of town visitors these days.

It's not about filling space when the parks are empty. It's about making sure they hit the numbers for attendance and occupancy they have targeted, which are clearly a lot higher than you or I would like.

Why do you think they lifted blackout days on some resident AP's last year around Easter, a very busy time of year?

 

[thomas998]

It's not about filling space when the parks are empty. It's about making sure they hit the numbers for attendance and occupancy they have targeted, which are clearly a lot higher than you or I would like.

Why do you think they lifted blackout days on some resident AP's last year around Easter, a very busy time of year?

It should be about making money. And higher crowds year round make the parks less attractive to the out of town visitors, attendance of AP holders isn't going to generate as much revenue as non-AP visitors when it comes to souvenirs and food in the park... They should be catering to the out of town visitors over the locals. I'm sure your right on someone thinking attendance is key. Probably some bean counter that never bothered to look at the quality of visitors over quantity and just thinks all visitors spend the same.

 

[disneygeek90]

I'm not saying they don't want you... I'm saying the odds of you going more often than someone with a annual pass that lives in say Ohio is much greater which you've just pretty much proven to be true. Now when that is the case why would you charge someone 100 dollars that is going to use your bathroom everyday and then charge someone else 200 dollars that is only going to use it once a week.

Their pricing doesn't make much sense because if I lived in Orlando I would be willing to pay much more for an annual pass than if I lived in Atlanta... Their pricing would make more sense if it charged people that were more likely to use it more than people that are less likely to use it. Be honest don't you think if you lived further away you would use the park less than when you live in Florida?

You putting more wear and tear on rides shouldn't be provided at a discount to someone that puts less wear and tear on the rides that just doesn't make sense logically.

That’s funny… I actually did grow up and live in Ohio until I was 16. Of course I go a lot more often than I did then. Back then, it was our once a year “Spring Break” trip my family and I would make. That wasn’t out of not wanting to go more often, but more with the travel costs and time. I’ve only even been in Orlando since June 2016, bouncing around in a few further cities in Florida, but always having that pass.


I’m so grateful to be living close now. However, I’m somewhat of an outlier. You would be surprised as to how many people that live here tell me how long it’s been since they’ve been to the parks or that they’ve thought about getting a pass. The problem is that not everyone is as into Disney as it can seem on these sort of blogs etc., especially locals.


For the die hard Disney fans, having a pass seems like a no brainer and actually quite a steal. For the average Joe local that may not be into the hype, crowds, and heat quite as much, the low cost may be just enough to entice them to go for the pass (and may not even use it to it’s full potential).

 

[Tony the Tigger]

You would be surprised as to how many people that live here tell me how long it’s been since they’ve been to the parks or that they’ve thought about getting a pass.

Yep. I moved to Fort Lauderdale from New Jersey because I loved the beach and never got enough beach time up north.

For the first few years, I went to the beach a lot. Now I go when company comes from out of state LOL.

I think partly you just get tired of it, and partly you're thinking, "oh, it will be there tomorrow."

 

[wdwjmp239]

Here is what I know because a friend of mine just moved out of Florida a few months ago.

When you renew your Disney pass online, you are already agreeing to the fact that you live at your current Florida address which should, in theory, be the same as your Florida driver license. The contract you filled out and agree to pay on in monthly installments will commence as soon as you click submit on the Disney pass website.

If you happen to move after you renewed your contract, your pass is still good. If you should run into any problems, just bring with you a utility bill (water, power, something with your Florida address) and show that at Guest Relations. In my friend's case - he renewed the contract back in October, but moved back to NY in December to take a job up there. He comes back from time to time to take care of loose ends in Florida and while he's down here - he'll sneak in a trip to go see the mouse. So far so good. No problems.

But, it's like someone said - if you have a Florida Driver License - you should be good for a few years. But, if you are an honest soul and will "feel bad" about taking advantage of the Florida rate? Then, see if you can buy out your contract in full.

 

[Ddkeeb]

So you are asking how to defraud disney? If you are not a Florida resident you should not have a residents pass?

Not trying to defraud Disney. Only want to know if my current pass purchased as a Florida resident will work in 3 months when we move out of state. Not planning on renewing.