Flight of Passage: People of size be warned

jaklgreen

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I was wondering about this ride when I saw the design. I think many people will have issues, not only bigger people but ones with mobility issues. It is not so easy to straddle something when you have limited range of motion.
 

DisneyJoe

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I was wondering about this ride when I saw the design. I think many people will have issues, not only bigger people but ones with mobility issues. It is not so easy to straddle something when you have limited range of motion.
From various photos and videos that I have seen, you don't need to throw your leg over the bike to straddle it. If you can stand behind the bike and walk forward onto it, you should be fine. I am hoping that is how it should work for me.
 

jaklgreen

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From various photos and videos that I have seen, you don't need to throw your leg over the bike to straddle it. If you can stand behind the bike and walk forward onto it, you should be fine. I am hoping that is how it should work for me.
That's good to know. But then it makes me think that the "seat" is not very big if you can just walk up to it. Big butts will not be happy with this. :eek:
 

disneygeek90

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I completely agree. I have other concerns about the ride and contacted Disney to see if they could tell me if there are any options for me (not a size, but other physical limitations). Still waiting on a call back though.

I'm a coaster junkie and a petite lady (friends call me 'pocket sized' lol) and while height restrictions are in effect, there are some things that are not comfortable when you are short. Like RnR is awful as the restraints hit me in the ear which is not comfortable at all. I appreciate having test harnesses to see if it will be comfortable or not.
The restraint comes from your back and holds you against the seat. Not sure exactly how it would effect someone that is shorter, but I would guess that it would be more comfortable than RNRC.
 

correcaminos

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The restraint comes from your back and holds you against the seat. Not sure exactly how it would effect someone that is shorter, but I would guess that it would be more comfortable than RNRC.
The concerns I have for FoP are actually not size related for me, but due to an issue I've had since childhood with my back. I still haven't heard from Disney on it either so I might have to call myself later on. The rest of the post, I was just making a statement that sometimes things don't fit the same when you are smaller so testing things out is nice. I've done it at other coaster parks to make sure I'm comfortable.
 

disneygeek90

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The concerns I have for FoP are actually not size related for me, but due to an issue I've had since childhood with my back. I still haven't heard from Disney on it either so I might have to call myself later on. The rest of the post, I was just making a statement that sometimes things don't fit the same when you are smaller so testing things out is nice. I've done it at other coaster parks to make sure I'm comfortable.
Due to the uniqueness of the ride vehicle, I’m surprised they don’t have a tester out front. Maybe that will change by opening day?
 

correcaminos

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Due to the uniqueness of the ride vehicle, I’m surprised they don’t have a tester out front. Maybe that will change by opening day?
I am a little surprised too. I kind of hope they will add it soon. I hear the queue is cool, but I don't need to spend hours in it if this one is out for me ;)
 

Coaster Lover

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No
Make it too wide and children and small adults won't be comfortable either. Honestly better to go too narrow and be safe in that way.

Bolliger & Mabillard (a well known roller coaster manufacturer who has made such other Florida coasters as Incredible Hulk [IOA], Montu [Busch Gardens], and Kumba [Busch Gardens] amongst several others... for those not as well versed in the roller coaster community) has started building their coasters with a row of "big boy" seats (seats with slightly deeper/wider seats to allow for larger guests). It should be noted that these only usually make up one row of the train (and usually a middle row), so by no means are all of the seats like this. Given that the vast, VAST majority of Disney rides are designed to be able to comfortably seat just about any rider (few [if any] other rides at Disney World even have a test seat.. none that I can readily think of), an issue like this is a bit new/unique to Disney and it makes you wonder if they should have or eventually will add a few limited seats to accommodate larger riders. I guess it all depends on the percentage of riders who get turned away because they are too large.
 

mindaboveall

New Member
I guess it all depends on the percentage of riders who get turned away because they are too large.

If my preview was any indication, the percentage is really high. Myself and two others were kicked off due to the size of our shins in the same ride group. A quick conversation with a cast member then yielded that they're tossing an average of 2 people every ride because of this issue.

So basically it's not really a midsection thing, I'm heavier and fit fine with the back restraint, it's getting your knees under the unnecessarily short bars in front of you which is causing issues for most anything north of 6' tall. Both the other men that were tossed were totally fit, btw.

If Disney doesn't do something quick, it'll be another PR nightmare opening day without a doubt.
 

kbmb

Active Member
If my preview was any indication, the percentage is really high. Myself and two others were kicked off due to the size of our shins in the same ride group. A quick conversation with a cast member then yielded that they're tossing an average of 2 people every ride because of this issue.

So basically it's not really a midsection thing, I'm heavier and fit fine with the back restraint, it's getting your knees under the unnecessarily short bars in front of you which is causing issues for most anything north of 6' tall. Both the other men that were tossed were totally fit, btw.

If Disney doesn't do something quick, it'll be another PR nightmare opening day without a doubt.

Makes you wonder, why they would even design it like this. Surely they could have come up with a more universal seating system that would accommodate more shapes and sizes of people?! Do they want people to remember the visuals or the thing you sit on?

Maybe I've been spoiled by Disney over the years - but being someone who is bigger (6'1" 325), I've always really appreciated the fact that everything Disney designed could fit me. I think it's great not even needing to have test seats out front! Really for most rides at Disney, all but the largest folks can fit.
 

mindaboveall

New Member
Makes you wonder, why they would even design it like this. Surely they could have come up with a more universal seating system that would accommodate more shapes and sizes of people?! Do they want people to remember the visuals or the thing you sit on?

Maybe I've been spoiled by Disney over the years - but being someone who is bigger (6'1" 325), I've always really appreciated the fact that everything Disney designed could fit me. I think it's great not even needing to have test seats out front! Really for most rides at Disney, all but the largest folks can fit.

That's what irks me the most about it, is that it's unnecessary. The whole apparatus is absolutely unnecessary. Is it futuristic looking? Yep. But at the end of the day, they seemingly drew it up, said "this looks good" and put it into production without properly researching the heights needed to comfortably fit people of a little above average height?!

A couple more inches on the size of the seat and a couple inches more height on the leg openings and the ride fits literally EVERYONE. But I suppose they were so excited to be designing Soarin in Pandora that they forget to actually test these things out.
 

KrazyKat

Well-Known Member
I'm a big guy (6"3, 240lbs) but they should do what Universal did with rides like the HULK or Dragon Challenge and make seats specifically for "bigger" people.

After all, this is America...

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correcaminos

Well-Known Member
That's what irks me the most about it, is that it's unnecessary. The whole apparatus is absolutely unnecessary. Is it futuristic looking? Yep. But at the end of the day, they seemingly drew it up, said "this looks good" and put it into production without properly researching the heights needed to comfortably fit people of a little above average height?!

A couple more inches on the size of the seat and a couple inches more height on the leg openings and the ride fits literally EVERYONE. But I suppose they were so excited to be designing Soarin in Pandora that they forget to actually test these things out.
I question the couple inches on the seat fitting everyone, but when you're shorter than average you run into a lot. A couple inches can be huge difference with little people.

I know it sucks for those who do not fit, but without being on the design team, it's hard to say what would fit more.

Making bigger seats would help those, but I am pretty sure too big and you cut off kids/small adults.
 

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