FLE was created to address capacity issues. What does this mean exactly?

djkidkaz

djkidkaz

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I noticed this has been mentioned several times around these boards and Im just curious if someone can explain what this means exactly and the outcome Disney is looking for in regards to this expansion? I go to WDW usually in February, May and/or October every year and I never really notice that the lines are ridiculously long at the attractions or anything. I never feel very cramped with people when just walking around the park. So what are the capacity issues that are spoken of? I have seen where MK actually does phased closings sometimes on like 4th of July, New Years, etc. and that the parks are pretty packed during the 3 summer months, but the rest of the year seems to be tame for the most part. Is Disney expecting this expansion to decrease wait times in the park as well?
 
ChristianG

ChristianG

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djkidkaz said:
I noticed this has been mentioned several times around these boards and Im just curious if someone can explain what this means exactly and the outcome Disney is looking for in regards to this expansion? I go to WDW usually in February, May and/or October every year and I never really notice that the lines are ridiculously long at the attractions or anything. I never feel very cramped with people when just walking around the park. So what are the capacity issues that are spoken of? I have seen where MK actually does phased closings sometimes on like 4th of July, New Years, etc. and that the parks are pretty packed during the 3 summer months, but the rest of the year seems to be tame for the most part. Is Disney expecting this expansion to decrease wait times in the park as well?
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Well, it's not really about the lines, it's just that Fantasyland is very packed in. It's a very small space - especially near the IASW area. This expansion will give much mroe space for people to walk around.
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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FLE isn't even adding capacity it is merely restoring some of the capacity that was lost in the past 15 years with the closures of 20k under the sea, skyway, and the various watercrafts on the rivers of america. They would need to add at least 1 more attraction without replacing an former/existing attraction for there to be an actual gain.
 
unkadug

unkadug

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Captain Neo said:
FLE isn't even adding capacity it is merely restoring some of the capacity that was lost in the past 15 years with the closures of 20k under the sea, skyway, and the various watercrafts on the rivers of america. They would need to add at least 1 more attraction without replacing an former/existing attraction for there to be an actual gain.
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That's not entirely true. While we might be adding back the attractions that were taken away. We ARE gaining more acreage in the park. A lot of the property that will now be utilized was NEVER available for guest use in the past in ANYWAY at all.

So, we adding capacity in the sense that there will be more room in the park for guests to utilize.
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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unkadug said:
That's not entirely true. While we might be adding back the attractions that were taken away. We ARE gaining more acreage in the park. A lot of the property that will now be utilized was NEVER available for guest use in the past in ANYWAY at all.

So, we adding capacity in the sense that there will be more room in the park for guests to utilize.
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That is true but will it really help to resolve the issues with long lines and crowded walkways?
 
Captain Neo

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Scuttle said:
It will certainly help. It'll take some pressure off Space and Peter Pan.
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I hope so. I also hope they decide to add another dark ride (either in the old snow white building or where the tinker bell land was going to go.) I think they would really benefit from that.
 
Prototype82

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MAF said:
LMAO! The half-assed Fantasyland expansion has nothing on the Harry Potter attraction.
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Hold on now. Fantasyland is far from half-assed! Buuut it will never ever have anything on the Wizarding World, especially the innovative mind-freak that is Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey.
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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MAF said:
Reusing rotting tents for a Circusland is a joke if you ask me...
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*shrugs* The new Dumbo had to go somewhere outside of the castle walls...So it fits there. Big deal. Look at Dragon challenge. Other than the front of the queue, they kind of cheaped out on it. They didn't even bother changing the dragons on the coasters or repainting them.
 
Unplugged

Unplugged

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Enough ranting already....

MAF said:
Reusing rotting tents for a Circusland is a joke if you ask me...
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It may not be up to your standards, and agreed that the re-use of some things (tents in this case) may be on the cheap side for such a well done add on, but until you move into your office in one of the Imagineering buildings or you finally get that seat appointment on the board of directors, I think we can drop the pure negative posts. I see too posts made purely to complain and it's beyond old.

All the well done new detail with the reuse going into a smaller "kiddie" section not truly intended for you anyway and all you can do is rant about the tents like you own the place? How many shares of Disney stock do you own?

Disney is a business that requires balance between investment in new and the practicality of re-use to optimize costs. Simple as that. No one is going to turn over a cool billion on a project simply to attempt to appease everyone who can flame from a keyboard.

Not everything at WDW is to my liking, but my family and I are but a few customers of the millions that visit. There will be likes & dislikes, as well as opinions-a-plenty. We still find ample opportunities to enjoy what Disney offers. If you hate it that much, don't go to WDW and stick to Universal. Leaves more room for the rest of us.
 
Slowjack

Slowjack

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djkidkaz said:
I noticed this has been mentioned several times around these boards and Im just curious if someone can explain what this means exactly and the outcome Disney is looking for in regards to this expansion? I go to WDW usually in February, May and/or October every year and I never really notice that the lines are ridiculously long at the attractions or anything. I never feel very cramped with people when just walking around the park. So what are the capacity issues that are spoken of? I have seen where MK actually does phased closings sometimes on like 4th of July, New Years, etc. and that the parks are pretty packed during the 3 summer months, but the rest of the year seems to be tame for the most part. Is Disney expecting this expansion to decrease wait times in the park as well?
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This thread is already going off the rails, but let me try to answer the OP question. It's not really so much about capacity of the overall park, although it will help. It's about adding more ride capacity for Fantasyland, and more to the point, more capacity for the younger set. A lot of Fantasyland rides have long lines, even at times of the year when the park overall isn't that crowded. As Lasseter put it, they had their smallest guests waiting in the longest lines. So for example, Dumbo, a low-capacity ride that is popular with preschoolers, gets its capacity doubled. WDW, and the MK in particular, skews younger than it did twenty years ago and this expansion is a reflection of that fact. I don't think Disney expects this expansion to make much of a difference in the overall crowd feeling at the MK; I think Disney expects this will have a big effect on the satisfaction of its youngest guests (and their parents).
 

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