Flash Photos on Dark Rides

KraftServices

Active Member
I think part of the problem is the voice saying no flash photography is part of the pirate spiel in the pirate voice... It would probably work best if they had a cast member say it before the boats left. We ride it all the time and sometimes I don't recall hearing it at all. Some rides they don't even mention it on where they should.

What I'm really confused by is why people take them in the first place. When you take a flash shot in a dark ride you aren't going to get a photo that looks anything like the thing you saw on the ride it will have harsh shadows and in some cases you are going to see the things behind the magic which make it look a lot less magical. I know that for a fact because my youngest daughter borrowed the camera on one ride and didn't know how to turn the flash off. And on Peter Pan when you take photos with a flash things don't look good at all unless your goal was to see how they create effects.

When I was still getting used to my new digital camera back in 2007, I accidentally took a flash photo of a street sign at night. So I had one really bright street sign and a field of pitch darkness. I have a second photo of the same sign with the flash off, and the sign is blurrier but you can see all this cool stuff in the background. I always remember that when I take photos in a dark area now.

I'd much rather just experience the rides than try to take a bunch of pictures on it, flash or no.

Also the worst is definitely around Madame Leota on HM. The doom buggies are facing each other so when someone takes a flash photo there, you get the added benefit of being blinded.
 

SyracuseDisneyFan

Well-Known Member
In 2014, when I went with my family, there was someone in front of us at Voyage of The Little Mermaid. They were holding up their tablet trying to take video. My Dad said several times that there was no flash photography allowed. The person stopped, but I think they didn't care they were violating the rules.
 

Takeitforgranite

Active Member
Original Poster
Accidents happen. I think most of us are probably guilty of that at some point. It's pretty easy to tell the difference.

I think they should just do away with photos altogether on dark rides. They could make high quality videos available though your photopass for anyone to purchase. It would make the experience better for everyone, even the photographers. I've never understood sacrificing a great moment just to to get a bad picture or video. How often are you going to go back and watch vertical videos of Dinosaur or fireworks?

Live life, people!
 

drizgirl

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In 2014, when I went with my family, there was someone in front of us at Voyage of The Little Mermaid. They were holding up their tablet trying to take video. My Dad said several times that there was no flash photography allowed. The person stopped, but I think they didn't care they were violating the rules.
Video is the most annoying, because of that constant stream of light, but it's also the easiest to ruin for someone by yelling things they wouldn't want saved for posterity. (It can be as simple as "turn that thing off" or "video lighting is not allowed" or you could get creative......)
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
Accidents happen. I think most of us are probably guilty of that at some point. It's pretty easy to tell the difference.

I think they should just do away with photos altogether on dark rides. They could make high quality videos available though your photopass for anyone to purchase. It would make the experience better for everyone, even the photographers. I've never understood sacrificing a great moment just to to get a bad picture or video. How often are you going to go back and watch vertical videos of Dinosaur or fireworks?

Live life, people!
I draw the line there. If I want to shoot non-flash stills on a dark ride, why on earth would you care? It's my trip. It shouldn't matter to you or anyone else how I choose to engage in the moment if I'm doing so quietly and without bursts or streams of lights.
 

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Flash photography and talking during the rides are my biggest pet peeves at Disney! (Rude parents come close...)

The first time riding Frozen, this couple behind us talked the entire time and then took pictures! Man it upset me like no tomorrow. Luckily my husband picked up the hint of my anger, so we rode it again right after (I was also angry at him to for making such a fuss about getting a little bit wet on the ride also..)

Flash photography on HM is the worst!!
 

donsullivan

Premium Member
Accidents happen. I think most of us are probably guilty of that at some point. It's pretty easy to tell the difference.

I think they should just do away with photos altogether on dark rides. They could make high quality videos available though your photopass for anyone to purchase. It would make the experience better for everyone, even the photographers. I've never understood sacrificing a great moment just to to get a bad picture or video. How often are you going to go back and watch vertical videos of Dinosaur or fireworks?

Live life, people!

Flash photography on dark rides make me crazy for a whole host of reasons. I've been in the last row on Pirates when someone in the row in front of me felt it was okay to turn backward and flash a photo right in my eye. It was not, and I reacted accordingly.

I fail to understand how my taking a photograph in an attraction without using a flash or any other lighting assist has any impact at all on another guests experience. I'm making the obvious assumption in this statement that I'm not doing so in such a way that I expect another guest to get out of my way and I'm otherwise not being any more of an obstruction to their view than my head would be. I completely understand that many guests do not have either a camera capable, or the photographic skills (nor desire to have them) needed to achieve that which is completely fine. However, for some photography hobbyists, it's an an interesting (if frustrating) photographic challenge to get that perfect dark ride shot without any additional lighting. How is that compromising anyone elses ride experience?
 
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drizgirl

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Flash photography on dark rides make me crazy for a whole host of reasons. I've been in the last row on Pirates when someone in the row in front of me felt it was okay to turn backward and flash a photo right in my eye. It was not, and I reacted accordingly.

I fail to understand how my taking a photograph in an attraction without using a flash or any other lighting assist has any impact at all on another guests experience. I'm making the obvious assumption in this statement that I'm not doing so in such a way that I expect another guest to get out of my way and I'm otherwise not being any more of an obstruction to their view than my head would be. I completely understand that many guests do not have either a camera capable, or the photographic skills (nor desire to have them) needed to achieve that which is completely fine. However, for some photography hobbyists, it's an an interesting (if frustrating) photographic challenge to get that perfect dark ride shot without any additional lighting. How is that compromising anyone elses ride experience?
Yeah, I really don't get the leap from "Don't do something to impede the experience of those around you" (as in no flash photography) to "don't do something to impede your own experience" (quietly taking non flash photos). Why is that second one anyone else's business?
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
When I was still getting used to my new digital camera back in 2007, I accidentally took a flash photo of a street sign at night. So I had one really bright street sign and a field of pitch darkness. I have a second photo of the same sign with the flash off, and the sign is blurrier but you can see all this cool stuff in the background. I always remember that when I take photos in a dark area now.

I'd much rather just experience the rides than try to take a bunch of pictures on it, flash or no.

Also the worst is definitely around Madame Leota on HM. The doom buggies are facing each other so when someone takes a flash photo there, you get the added benefit of being blinded.

They aren't ever going to get a good shot with a flash in the HM. I took a camcorder with night vision on it once and it showed a lot of the ways they did things in Madame Leota's room, and trust me the magic is gone when you see everything which is what you would get with a flash picture in there... floating objects aren't quite a cool when you see the wires making them float.
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
I draw the line there. If I want to shoot non-flash stills on a dark ride, why on earth would you care? It's my trip. It shouldn't matter to you or anyone else how I choose to engage in the moment if I'm doing so quietly and without bursts or streams of lights.

To be honest I think in most rides there is no real reason to take photos at all. I've done it and probably still will, but not because I think I'm going to get the greatest end all be all photo or because I want to capture my child's expression of wonder when they see something... I'm full aware that on most rides my daughter is never going to be in the scene because she's right beside me, I'll just be doing it because its a challenge.... though I do make sure that I only use a camera with a viewfinder so I don't blind everyone around me with the LCD screen which is what really annoys me more than a random flash.
 

drizgirl

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To be honest I think in most rides there is no real reason to take photos at all. I've done it and probably still will, but not because I think I'm going to get the greatest end all be all photo or because I want to capture my child's expression of wonder when they see something... I'm full aware that on most rides my daughter is never going to be in the scene because she's right beside me, I'll just be doing it because its a challenge.... though I do make sure that I only use a camera with a viewfinder so I don't blind everyone around me with the LCD screen which is what really annoys me more than a random flash.
For me it's really about the challenge. And many of those photos end up in my scrapbooks and I love how they help me recapture what I was feeling when I was there.

I also use a camera with a viewfinder. Not even an infrared light to assist in focus. Heck, my camera doesn't even have an onboard flash.
 

habuma

Well-Known Member
I'm fully anti-flash photography, especially on the dark rides and during fireworks. And I'm strongly against a sea of LCD screens in those cases, too. But...

One of the things I enjoy about my Disney trips is the opportunity to photograph the attractions--respectfully, of course. The dark rides, especially, offer me a unique challenge as an amateur photographer (the caretaker and his dog on the HM is still my biggest challenge). I want to hone my skills in a place that I enjoy, not buy someone else's photos or a DVD. And yes, I *do* look at those photos later. Many times....even daily, as the good ones end up in rotation in my computer's desktop background.

But again, I do so with utmost respect of the others with me. That means, I do not under any circumstances use flash. I have electrical tape over the little green light on my DSLR that indicates that an image is still being written to the SD card. I sometimes carry a small tripod with me for fireworks, but won't pull it out if the crowd is too bit and I'd be intruding on other's space. I have never even owned a selfie stick. And I try to keep my camera either hanging on a strap or up to my face using the viewfinder as much as I can.

So while I fully support a strong ban on flash and screens...even if enforced by fellow guests...I draw the line at banning photography all together. For some of us, that's just as much a part of the experience as having a Dole Whip or meeting Mickey Mouse. (Both of which are also a big part of my experience, too.)

It'd be a shame if in order to limit the improper, disrespectful use of photography in the parks, a full on ban were to restrict those of us who are following the rules while they enjoy the parks with their cameras.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
They used to do something. A couple riding in our boat a few years back decided to film the ride. They had a bank of 3 or 4 flood type lamps on a lamp bar. She held up the lights and he was filming. The ride stopped dead, I think it was just before the drop, I don't remember exactly, but it was a ways in before it happened. A CM made an announcement to put out the lights, it was ignored! It was asked again and ignored again. Finally all of the people our boat, the one in front of us and the one behind us, screamed, as if rehearsed, to Shut the damn lights off or you'll be having to retrieve them from the water. The shut them off and didn't use them again. At the dock there was a welcoming committee for them. Don't know what happened to them, but, I know we all felt better.
 

Jedi Stitch

Well-Known Member
Even if people adhered to no flash it wouldn't totally solve the issue. People will still whip out their smart phones, turn off the flash, and try to get the best pic they could all the while people behind them will still see the bright and annoying screen.
The bright and annoying screen is a far cry better than the flash. I just got the new Samsung 8+ that has great lowlight non-flash settings. It does still have the screen, but that can set a bit lower if needed.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
Accidental flashes are understandable.
Most annoying, on say Pirates - is when you are on a boat full of people holding up their phones videoing the entire ride. :mad:
 

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