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First look at Epcot's new table service restaurant 'La Hacienda de San Angel' menu
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ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
I have found that since the Disney Dining Plan was introduced, food prices have sky-rocketed while options at most restaurants has plummeted. That being said, only 5 entrees is a bit of a surprise. I would have expected 8-10.
PixarfortheWin
New Member
I remember back in 2000 when i came with four other families as grammar school graduation gift the restaurants had a ton of choices and now there is only like 6 entrees to choose from......
Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
While a vegetarian option is not on the regular menu, I am sure that they will make one upon request as they do in every other restaurant.
Phonedave
Well-Known Member
You would be suprised.
While only 0.5 % of the population may define themselves as a vegitarian, there are many people (I am one of them) that at times do opt for a meatless meal.
A 2006 poll in the Vegitarian Journal seems to conflict with your half a percent numbers as well.
Results (adults ages 18 and up)
6.7% Never eat meat
6.3% Never eat poultry
14.6% Never eat fish/seafood
7.6% Never eat dairy products
8.8% Never eat eggs
23.4% Never eat honey
2.3% Never eat meat, poultry, fish/seafood (vegetarian)
1.4% Never eat meat, poultry, fish/seafood, dairy products/eggs (vegan, except for possibly honey)
(Makes me wonder what is so bad about honey)
Anyway, something else to consider is that if a family member does not eat meat, then the whole family will quite possibly avoid eating at a place where that person cannot find something to their liking. So now you have multiplied your percentages by a factor of 2 or more.
It is good business sense and menu planning to include an option without meat. It is the same reasoning that drives seafood restaruants to put one chicken and one beef dish on the menu.
Heck, look at the menu for La Bernardin - If you go there you know you are going for fish. Thats what they do, thats what it is all about. But even they have a Lamb, a Beef, a Duck, and TWO vegitarian offerings (Buffalo Mozzarella Torellini, Wild Mushroom Consomme, Nettle, and Parmesan Emulsion) and for the Vegans (Cauliflower "couscous", Warm Salad of Seasonal Vegatables, Argan Oil Vinaigrette) Why anybody would go there and not order fish is beyond me, but there you go.
-dave
Not only do they not have a vegetarian item on the menu, they don't have much to make a vegetarian meal. I would say forget about it if you are vegan.
Cheese empanada, flour tortilla, chipotle salsa, salsa verde, black bean soup as long as it is made with vegetable stock, queso fresco, the house salad, whatever vegetables they have, rice as long as it is made with water or veg stock, cactus leaves, cabbage, mango chutney, roasted corn, sweet potato mash and pineapple relish.
I am sure there is a meal in there somewhere but it does suprise me that they don't have a tofu taco, veggie empanada or veggie burrito at least.
And there IS a demand for vegetarian food at the parks. That demand is also growing. As is the demand for healthier foods. Good luck eating there.
Cheese empanada, flour tortilla, chipotle salsa, salsa verde, black bean soup as long as it is made with vegetable stock, queso fresco, the house salad, whatever vegetables they have, rice as long as it is made with water or veg stock, cactus leaves, cabbage, mango chutney, roasted corn, sweet potato mash and pineapple relish.
I am sure there is a meal in there somewhere but it does suprise me that they don't have a tofu taco, veggie empanada or veggie burrito at least.
And there IS a demand for vegetarian food at the parks. That demand is also growing. As is the demand for healthier foods. Good luck eating there.
urbanvegan
New Member
Your objection is noted.
It just seems like an odd choice to leave items off the menu that are available anyway (if that is the case), and that arguably have a higher profit margin for the restaurant than the meat dishes - be they ordered by a vegetarian or one who simply is interested in the dish for its own sake.
urbanvegan
New Member
Actually there is a huge demand for meatless foods, be they chosen for health, lifestyle or religious reasons. A place like WDW draws an incredibly diverse cross-section of people from all over the planet. I think you may be a bit myopic here.
PixarfortheWin
New Member
I still think it is odd that they dont offer anything....but i would assume like most WDW places they can make an exception and make something for a vegitarian.
CaptainWinter
Active Member
Do you have a source for that number? Seems much too low. There are roughly a billion Hindus in India alone, many of whom are vegetarian.
In any case, even having a vegetarian in your *party* is enough to make you choose where to eat, so it is pretty important.
That said, the menu looks pretty nice to me.
Phonedave
Well-Known Member
Moral issue or not, the fact is if you are looking to run a successful restaruant, it is a menu item that should at least be contemplated.
Some people are vegitarians for moral reasons, others for health reason. It makes me no nevermind.
I'll keep eating a balanced diet, killing some of what I eat, eating all which I kill, and on occassion eating a meal that contains no meat.
-dave
mystical magic
Member
That would be our family. My husband is vegetarian and even a fairly lenient one and with that menu we would not be able to go there. Usually there is at least one entree that even if it isn't vegetarian you can easily suggest an adaptation to make it so. Not here.
Really the reduced menus have drastically reduced the restaurants we can go to, not only due to my veggie husband but also due the the developing taste buds of my 14 year old. Too old for kid meals but needs enough choices to find a fit for her.
mp2bill
Well-Known Member
Seriously. Pretty weak.
v_misses_epcot
Member
I'm seriously having a heart attack seeing those prices! A parrillada is not supposed to cost 50 dollars! AND IT ONLY SERVES TWO??? Down here in Texas, a parrillada serves 4-8 for 25 dollars!! And it comes with corn tortillas, grilled onions, pinto beans, avacado, salsas, fajita, chicken, beef and rice and flan! :dazzle:
High way robbery! Yes, I'm aware that we're not in Texas but come on!
The menu sounds slightly better then the last one though and if you're willing to pay those prices, take small bites and enjoy! And take pictures of course.
High way robbery! Yes, I'm aware that we're not in Texas but come on! The menu sounds slightly better then the last one though and if you're willing to pay those prices, take small bites and enjoy! And take pictures of course.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
I was looking at that as well. There was an Argentinean steakhouse in Chicago, with lines out the door and 3 hour waits, where you got short ribs, sweetbreads, lots of different sausages, flank steaks, etc, for 2 people for right around $25. And let me tell you, no knocking the Disney chefs or anything, but I'd be willing to guarantee that their parriallada would smoke Disney's every day. $50 is highway robbery.I'm seriously having a heart attack seeing those prices! A parrillada is not supposed to cost 50 dollars! AND IT ONLY SERVES TWO??? Down here in Texas, a parrillada serves 4-8 for 25 dollars!! And it comes with corn tortillas, grilled onions, pinto beans, avacado, salsas, fajita, chicken, beef and rice and flan! :dazzle:
The menu sounds slightly better then the last one though and if you're willing to pay those prices, take small bites and enjoy! And take pictures of course.
v_misses_epcot
Member
Oh yeah! I forgot about the sausages lol and yup, I can guarantee it too. I'm curious to see how that platter's going to look like. Can't wait for pictures.
BRER STITCH
Well-Known Member
I feel the need to declare that I am a "meat eater" before I ask my question.
With that out of the way...
I feel a little late to this Dinner Party, as I have paid ZERO attention to these eateries for some reason.
Are either of these available to book as part of the dining plan yet?
Are they both considered LUNCH locations during day, then ONLY Hacienda switching to Dinner at 3? Seems there would be a separate dinner menu for BOTH restaurants aftyer 3, but appears Cantina serves the same food all day.
Great...now that I've asked that I'm more confused. :shrug:
Can anyone clear it up?
Muchos Nachos in advance! :wave:
With that out of the way...
I feel a little late to this Dinner Party, as I have paid ZERO attention to these eateries for some reason.
Are either of these available to book as part of the dining plan yet?
Are they both considered LUNCH locations during day, then ONLY Hacienda switching to Dinner at 3? Seems there would be a separate dinner menu for BOTH restaurants aftyer 3, but appears Cantina serves the same food all day.
Great...now that I've asked that I'm more confused. :shrug:
Can anyone clear it up?
Muchos Nachos in advance! :wave: